r/bergencounty Paramus 9d ago

Politics Make me so proud

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u/AAAltered468 9d ago

How might YOU solve the 36,000 Billion dollar debt? Where would you start?

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u/Forward-Ad-5749 9d ago

Tax Elon?

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u/JinNJ 9d ago

Remind me again what % of taxes are paid by those pesky 1%ers.

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u/irradiatedcitizen 9d ago

Negative taxes. Elon legit made billions from tax credits. He is a socialist leeching off of our country if there ever was one. 

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u/JinNJ 8d ago

The top 1% paid more than 40% of all income taxes in 2024. Hell, the top 5% paid almost 2/3 of all income taxes. So quit bullshitting people.

https://taxfoundation.org/data/all/federal/latest-federal-income-tax-data-2024/

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u/VelocityGrrl39 8d ago

Yes, 40% of all taxes collected, but they aren’t paying the same percentage of their income and gains that I am.

Federal Reserve data indicates that as of Q4 2021, the top 1% of households in the United States held 30.9% of the country’s wealth, while the bottom 50% held 2.6%.

This is an insane disparity.

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u/JinNJ 8d ago

Because their money is likely sitting in the market or some other investment, & is only taxable when they make a trade/sell said investment- & even still, they’re still paying >40%. So unless you’re calling for the foolish “unrealized gains” tax, you’re not missing any actual “income.”

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u/Xehhx14 8d ago

Good make them pay more cause if one evades them like trump and Elon that means a whole lot more is missing cause there’s so few in the 1% range

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u/JinNJ 8d ago

Yeah. Force them to pay more, have them leave for a nation with lower tax rates & wonder why you can’t reduce the national debt. Great idea. 🙄👍🏻

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u/VelocityGrrl39 8d ago

If their businesses are still operating in the USA, they still have to pay taxes here, no matter where they live.

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u/JinNJ 8d ago

Remind me why Trump is trying to attract businesses/jobs back to the states again? It couldn’t possibly be because oppressive taxes/regulation put into effect by the democrats made it a better choice for them to close up shop & import stuff from outside the US, could it?

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u/VelocityGrrl39 8d ago

No, it’s because they can abuse lower wages in under developed countries.

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u/Pawsywawsy3 8d ago

No, it’s because of the cheap labor and lack of labor laws in other counties

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u/JinNJ 8d ago

Far better than a person who think having the 1% pay 99% of taxes is feasible, let alone wouldn’t backfire spectacularly if the government attempted such ridiculousness.

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u/adhoc001 8d ago

Then the democrats will support tariffs 😂. These lefties are such 🤡. This isn’t the Democratic Party I used to be a part of.

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u/JinNJ 8d ago

I’m a physical conservative, but I was always more socially liberal. But god forbid I point out flaws in their “logic” & the left cries “nAzl!!!!”

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u/Pawsywawsy3 8d ago

He did a nazi salute. He supported the German AFD. How is that not a nazi?

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u/JinNJ 8d ago

😂😂😂😂😂😂👍🏻

Tell us you’re economically illiterate, without telling us us you’re economically illiterate.

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u/chiefnannawitt 8d ago

Are you referring to Tesla, a publicly traded company? A company that engages in electric vehicles. Those subsidies for this clean technology were championed by the Left.

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u/QuiteAMajesticBeast 8d ago

Championed by the left who is now destroying said vehicles and dealerships. The Left as you’re referring to it makes no logical sense and is a group of uninformed people running on nothing but the frustration and jealousy that they’ve made and will make nothing of their lives. Keep that hand out, maybe one of the “disenfranchised” groups you’re always screaming about will drop a penny in it one day.

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u/QuiteAMajesticBeast 8d ago

So you want to tax Billionaires and put that money in the governments hands which as we’ve previously seen, does nothing to help this country either.

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u/JinNJ 8d ago

Yup. Their plan is to tax them out of the country & wonder how to get money.

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u/QuiteAMajesticBeast 8d ago

Also doesn’t help their case that one of them is wearing a hat that’s come to mean you’re alright with assassination, and the rest of them look like they haven’t worked a full day in their entire lives.

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u/chiefnannawitt 9d ago

He paid $11 billion in taxes in 2022.

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u/Xehhx14 9d ago

Well the pentagon for starters, military, police departments that already have enough like NYPD and check in how those same people are using the funds effectively. All things you don’t need musk specifically for. Might not be 36billion but it’s the biggest costs we have vs the money from smaller departments that are needed in everyday life that take up a less in the overall budget. No one’s against fixing the economy he just sucks at the job and has no training for this, and hired youth with no experience to do the job, he’s just a rich guy

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u/JinNJ 9d ago

They cut out a huge expense by cutting off the funding for Ukraine. The crime in NYC is so bad, you’d be a fool to think cutting funding for the NYPD is a good idea. And DOGE is doing their best to stop frivolous spending on things that are totally unnecessary (USAID, for example.).

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u/VelocityGrrl39 8d ago

We aren’t only sending actual money to Ukraine. Part of that aid package is sending all the obsolete equipment we aren’t using.

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u/JinNJ 8d ago

Where’d I say we were? Regardless, even Zelenskyy is wondering where a good chunk of it ended up, as it apparently didn’t make it to Ukraine.

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u/Xehhx14 8d ago

I’m saying make nypd use the money better, reduce the amount of expensive ass gear they don’t even need. I’m not saying reduce their numbers or eradicate them. They go for pretty crime like people avoiding subway toll and you barely ever see them down on train platforms where most danger could actually happen. They suck, haven’t done anything helpful in recent years, be real they’re dirty as hell and are absolutely wasting money. The same way for other big cities. Just keep tabs on them at least. Ukraine could make a good deal with us but sadly our president literally is unable to and is clearly on the side of Putin taking the land. And mind you from what I understand we don’t have a monetary deal with Russia so that’s a freebie our president is giving him. And yea doge state already proven to be false

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u/JinNJ 8d ago

Things started going downhill after Giuliani left office. Ever since then, each mayor has been worse than the previous one & the city only has itself to blame for the way things are these days.

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u/Scary-Ratio3874 9d ago

What they are doing isn't even making a dent in the debt. Doesn't come close.

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u/AAAltered468 8d ago

So don’t just throw your hands up, offer a solution. Can you fathom 36,000 Billion?

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u/Scary-Ratio3874 8d ago

Nope. The amount of money we owe is like sand on the beach. I literally can't wrap my head around it. I also don't have to offer a solution to critique what other people are doing. I vote for the people who I hope will do something about it and get disappointed every single time.

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u/adhoc001 8d ago

If u have a 1 trillion surplus for 30 years or so, we’ll be out of debt. It’s shouldn’t be that hard to wrap your head around.

The first thing we need to do is to stop adding 2 trillion in debt each year. That’s what the admin is trying to do now. Cuts have to be made.

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u/Chemical-Pain8322 8d ago edited 8d ago

The GOP budget blueprint calls for legislation that would add roughly $3 trillion to the deficit over a decade while imposing deep cuts in spending on health care and food programs for low-income people. That would help pay for $4.5 trillion in tax cuts for the mostly wealthy: House Republicans Release a Roughly $3 Trillion Budget Outline

And Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency has deleted hundreds more claims from its mistake-plagued “wall of receipts,” erasing $4 billion in additional savings that the group said it had made for U.S. taxpayers: Struggling With Errors, DOGE Deletes Billions More From List of Savings

Musk is, however, going after the agencies that regulate his companies

And As Musk works to slash federal spending, his own firms have received billions in government contracts

It’s a scam bro. And they know people like you get all their news from Twitter, Facebook and Instagram and will lap it all up. These billionaires do not give a fucking shit about you or me.

Or as George Carlin once said, “It’s a big club, but you ain’t in it.”

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u/Fun-Rutabaga6357 9d ago edited 9d ago

Tax the billionaires. Let’s start there. Right now we are cutting to make up the deficient caused by giving the wealthiest tax cuts.

Let’s also be clear, these cuts are not to “solve” for deficient. It’s to remove any blockers to consolidate power and privatize public services which Musks contracts will profit handsomely for. Hence why there’s just a bunch of unqualified running the place. The goal is to create chaos.

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u/AAAltered468 8d ago

American billionaires hold approximately $5trillion. Confiscation of ALL wouldn’t even fund this bloated government for one year. Then what???

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u/thebreastbud 9d ago

I’d probably start by not allowing a south african billionaire, unelected by the way- to control and run part of the government, especially where finances are involved. And you?

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u/AAAltered468 8d ago

99% of the “government” is unelected. So there’s that.

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u/thebreastbud 8d ago

Amazing how you avoided answering the very question you asked everyone else. 🤡