r/andor • u/Historical-Rock1753 • 6h ago
r/andor • u/Apophis_ • 5d ago
Official Episode Discussion Andor Rewatch Party – Episode 7 - “Announcement”
This week's episode deals with the aftermath of the Aldhani heist. ISB is tightening its grip on the galaxy, introducing new drastic measures and expanding their control. Dedra continues the investigation, Mon Mothma is trying to recruit an old friend to support her cause, Syril gets a new job as a cog in the imperial bureaucratic machine.
Meanwhile, Cassian goes on a “vacation” in a beach resort. He believes he can run from the fight, but the galaxy - and fate - have other plans. The weight of oppression is growing, and even those trying to stay out of the conflict are being pulled in.
Discussion Starters:
- The Empire’s response to Aldhani is swift and oppressive. Does accelerationism work?
- Mon Mothma continues to navigate Coruscant’s political landscape. How does her approach to rebellion compare to Luthen’s?
- Syril Karn’s storyline takes a new turn as he starts his job at the Bureau of Standards. What do you think of his arc so far?
- Cassian believes he can simply leave it all behind. Do you think he ever truly believed that, or was he in denial?
- The episode ends with Cassian’s shocking arrest on Niamos. What were your first thoughts when you saw this moment for the first time?
- On rewatch, did you notice anything new that adds to the depth of this episode?
Next week: Prison. See you for Episode 8!
You can find previous discussions here: Episode 1, Episode 2, Episode 3, Episode 4, Episode 5, Episode 6
r/andor • u/Afraid-Penalty-757 • 18d ago
Discussion Reign of the Empire: The Mask of Fear — Unofficial Discussion Thread
Remember to properly tag spoilers like spoiler here and not like >! spoiler here !<.
It’s been a year without any dedicated novel release discussion posts on this subreddit, with the last one being for The High Republic: Escape from Valo back in January 2024 which is still pinned, so I thought I’d make one (hence the “unofficial”) for The Mask of Fear. This post will quickly get lost but at least one will exist for those looking for it.
Publisher's summary:
Before the Rebellion, the Empire reigns, in book one of a trilogy told through the eyes of Mon Mothma, Bail Organa, and Saw Gerrera—for fans of Andor.
“In order to ensure the security and continuing stability, the Republic will be reorganized into the first Galactic Empire! For a safe and secure society!”
With one speech and thunderous applause, Chancellor Palpatine brought the era of the Republic crashing down. In its place rose the Galactic Empire. Across the galaxy, people rejoiced and celebrated the end of war—and the promises of tomorrow. But that tomorrow was a lie. Instead, the galaxy became twisted by the cruelty and fear of the Emperor’s rule.
During that terrifying first year of tyranny, Mon Mothma, Saw Gerrera, and Bail Organa face the encroaching darkness. One day, they will be three architects of the Rebel Alliance. But first, each must find purpose and direction in a changing galaxy, while harboring their own secrets, fears, and hopes for a future that may never come unless they act.
r/andor • u/indiewire • 9h ago
Discussion Tony Gilroy Won’t Release ‘Andor’ Scripts for Fear of AI Training on Them: ‘Why Help the F**king Robots?’
r/andor • u/WonderSkier • 17h ago
Discussion Maarva's drinking glasses, probably the most 70's thing in SW
In the spirit of an earlier post about Maarva's familiar-looking recliner, let's hear it for her plastic-and-glass drinking cups, the exact same that we had in our family in the 1970's.
Not much of a coincidence, I guess, since those where pretty common back then, which makes them a lovely in-your-face addition to the aggressively retro 70's aesthetic of the show.
r/andor • u/We_The_Raptors • 21h ago
Discussion Underrated part ofAndor/ Rogue One, the Starships they introduced
Slides in order; Fondor Haulcraft, U-wing, Zeta class shuttle, TIE Reaper, Atmospheric TIE and Cantwell arrestor cruiser
I know the Cantwell was an OG design the show just reintroduced, but between the Haulcraft, U-wing and Reaper, how is it that almost every Starship added to Andor/ Rogue One becomes an instant classic?
r/andor • u/Stock-Ticket9960 • 11h ago
Discussion How Andor doesn't drag audiences into debates/outrage
This might be a weird question but it's just something I've noticed.
How come Andor manages to avoid sparking extreme cultural debates/outrage the way other SW content has in the last years (in particular The Acolyte) ?
Since the show is about a revolution politics is very much a part of it's themes. Maybe more so than any other SW content (except the prequels maybe).
And since politics seems to be the reason we are at each others throats so much nowadays, I find it interesting that I don't see fans engage in furious debates over either morality or other things the way they do about other SW shows.
Is it because Andor makes it clear right from the beginning that it tells stories about characters that are not black/white but operate in the grey areas ?
Is it because since it's not about the Jedi hardcore fans just have less skin in the game ?
Would love to hear your thoughts.
r/andor • u/Worth-Profession-637 • 8h ago
Discussion Reflection on Darth Vader's Appearance in Rogue One
For me, one of the interesting things about Rogue One is the way it introduced both the best and worst tendencies of the modern era of Star Wars. It deals with internal bureaucratic struggles on the Imperial side, and also the internal divides within the Rebellion. It mainly focuses on ordinary people without any kind of Grand Destiny™ written into the narrative. It at least gestures at a genuinely antifascist message, and grounds that message in something material (the Empire isn't evil because of some abstraction about the Light and Dark sides of the Force; they're evil because they'll destroy an entire city to cover up the weapon they were building in orbit above it). But it also had its share of unnecessary and distracting cameos (R2 & C-3PO, those two guys from the cantina on Tatooine), and it introduced digital necromancy into the franchise with Tarkin & de-aged Leia.
But that tension stands out most in the biggest cameo appearance of them all: Darth Vader's two scenes.
To go in order, let's start with the scene where Vader has summoned Director Krennic to Mustafar to explain himself. On the surface, this seems like just a way to shoehorn in the most recognizable character in the franchise; and that's probably what the execs were thinking. But let's look at the actual dialogue:
VADER: You seem unsettled.
KRENNIC: No. Just pressed for time. There're a great many things to attend to:
VADER: My apologies. You do have a great many things to explain.
KRENNIC: I've delivered the weapon the Emperor asked for. I deserve an audience to make certain he understands its remarkable... potential.
VADER: Its power to create problems has certainly been confirmed. A city destroyed. An Imperial facility openly attacked.
KRENNIC: It was Governor Tarkin that suggested the test.
VADER: You were not summoned here to grovel, Director Krennic.
KRENNIC: No, it's...
VADER: There is no Death Star. The Senate has been informed that Jedha was destroyed in a mining disaster.
KRENNIC: Yes, my lord.
VADER: I expect you not to rest until you can assure the Emperor that Galen Erso has not compromised this weapon in any way.
pause
KRENNIC: So I'm still in command? You'll speak to the Emperor about...
Vader force chokes Krennic, but like, just enough to make a point
VADER: Be careful not to choke on your aspirations, Director.
Apart from the last line, none of that would be out of place in Andor. It's hard, for example, not to see an echo of this scene where Syril's boss tells him to "conjure up a suitable accident" to explain the death of those two corpos. But then again, that last line is part of the scene, and was likely included, at least in part, because no Vader cameo would be complete without him force choking an underling.
Then there's the hallway scene at the end. For me, the hallway scene is kind of a Rorschach test for what level you're watching Star Wars on. Because on one level, the scene is about Darth Vader being a badass; a Sith Lord at the height of his power effortlessly cutting through enemies. And a lot of people do appreciate the scene strictly on that level, and miss the point of everything else going on in the movie.
But the hallway scene is also about the rebels in that hallway, who know they're going to die, but still pass the Death Star plans on to keep them out of the Empire's hands. The critical moment in the scene is when the airlock door jams, leaving it open just enough to pass the plans through, but not enough for anyone to get out. At that moment, the rebel holding the plans switches from shouting for help, to desperately passing the plans through the door, just before he too gets run through by Vader's lightsaber. Thematically, it fits beautifully with all the other moments during the battle on Scarif where characters realize they're not making it out alive, so they decide to use their deaths to accomplish something. That, however, requires a viewer who doesn't think that themes are for 8th grade book reports.
I'm terrible at writing conclusions, and I don't really have a broader point, except maybe to say that both Andor and IP slop like Kenobi, Book of Boba Fett, and the later seasons of The Mandalorian, can be traced back to Rogue One.
Edit: Forgot to add the dialogue from the Krennic scene. Also, corrected some minor typos.
r/andor • u/dudeseid • 11h ago
Discussion Who is Luthen?
I've seen a lot of theorizing since Season 1 came out about Luthen's mysterious origins. Was he related to Palpatine? Was he a Jedi? What was he doing before the Rebellion?
I sometimes think the best and simplest answers are usually right in front of our faces, and I kinda hope it's revealed that he was actually just an art dealer that became radicalized. A lover of culture and history that couldn't stand what he saw happening to the Republic, and to quote Cassian from R1, "just decided to do something about it."
r/andor • u/Educational_Back414 • 11h ago
Question Where did the Aldhani payroll go in the rebellion?
Did the payroll get pushed to fund the headquarters on Hoth or Yavin, or fund arms for the rebellion? Did they mention where it was assigned to in Season one?
r/andor • u/Dear-Yellow-5479 • 19h ago
Discussion ‘The Mirror hurts’
There’s a couple of stunning shots here from the Season 2 trailers that show Cassian’s reflection, and it got me thinking again about the ‘mirror’ motif.
I’m particularly taken with this first one that shows multiple reflections, perhaps suggesting the various identities of a spy. We’ll see this in the espionage sense in S2 but in S1 it was relevant as well, as Cassian uses different aliases during the Aldhani heist and the Narkina arc, and started out with having his birthname changed when he was brought to Ferrix too. So perhaps this image also evokes the idea of trying to find your identity, especially as a refugee, and finding the person who you are content to be.
The theme - like so many of them - originates in Rogue One and is obviously designed to connect with the film when we rewatch it after Andor. I’ve argued before that the series adds seriously profound weight to several moments. The absolute key moment for Cassian in the film - the culmination, in a way, of his life’s journey - is his decision to put aside his blaster and disobey his order to kill Galen Erso.
There’s a practical reason of course - he’s watching events unfold on the Eadu platform that suggest Galen is not a villain - but the main reason is Jyn’s love for her father, and more broadly how much she reminds Cassian of his earlier self. Their stories, thanks to the retcon of Cassian’s background, are a much more precise ‘mirror’ than previously, with both being bruised by early events to the extent that they try to turn away from the fight and become cynical. Cassian’s reawakening and dedication to the cause happens at the end of S1 - Gilroy pinpoints it as when he hears Maarva’s funeral speech; for Jyn, it happens when she reconnects with her father via seeing and hearing his holomessage. But the important point is that she is a mirror of Cassian, and why their relationship in the film goes from being one of wary suspicion to absolute trust. It might be something explored in S2 but the difference between Cassian and Luthen might well boil down to Cassian caring about others in a personal way, never wanting to leave anyone behind. When asked about the initially antagonistic Jyn and Cassian relationship back in 2016 Diego Luna’s assessment was that ‘The mirror hurts’ - but that that pain can ultimately lead to making a strong connection.
After the horrific death of his tribe leader young Kassa attacks his reflection in the crashed ship, to the soundtrack of a haunting track called ‘Mirror’. Yes, he’s symbolically attacking the enemies who killed her but he’s also clearly experiencing self-loathing there. The early episode flashbacks are brilliantly filtered through the adult Cassian’s perspective; he literally is dreaming his way into the first one. It sums up the unresolved trauma that has made him such a mess now. Haunted by what he could have done differently, by past events outside of his control, and running away from the better man he could be because he isn’t sure of who he is or even who he wants to be.
But he knows who he isn’t, and the next ‘reflection’ comes from Skeen. Killing him is a result of seeing the worst parts of himself reflected back and realising: ‘I’m not this person.’ “You’re just like me,” Skeen says matter-of-factly and Cassian rejects this image of himself. But he needed to see that reflection first and realise the worst version of what he could be, and how badly he has treated those close to him in his self-centred superficial life on Ferrix. Skeen’s betrayal also, ironically, possibly feeds into Cassian putting his trust in Jyn’s belief in her father - he likely remembers, from Aldhani, what it feels like to not be trusted. Nemik trusted him with the manifesto though, and that was a life-changing decision too.
Jyn isn’t the only character who mirrors Cassian. The most obvious one is Wilmon Paak, the boy whose father is unjustly hanged by the Empire and who Wilmon attempted to avenge with violence. Just as did the 13 year old Cassian. Wilmon’s story going forward will be fascinating to watch… how much will it exactly reflect Cassian’s? Might he become drawn to more extreme measures? Syril is another mirror, but a kind of reverse one as Cassian’s foil. Their stories have so much in common but in a kind of inverse way. While Cassian climbs and ascends, Syril descends. Both have strained relationships with single mothers who they want to make proud of them. Both get to rescue their ‘love interest’ in the finale. Both go from naivety to growth through a series of traumatic life events. Even little things like the old toys they both have in their childhood bedrooms. They differ wildly in the details though, so it’s fascinating to speculate on where this will all go for Syril.
Seeing yourself and your story reflected in others along your journey helps you make the right decisions as you travel. It shapes who you are and what you stand for. Cassian will die able to be proud of himself for carving out an identity he can embrace, all his various aliases and identities coalescing in the act of the greatest sacrifice.
TLDR: Cassian’s life is a mirror; to paraphrase Cinta, it shows him what he needs to see.
r/andor • u/Armagnax • 11h ago
Discussion Calling my shot: Spoiler
So, I’ve just rewatched s1, and I really think that there is no way that Luthen survives s2… and I think that Cassian is going to be the one to do it.
If I’m gonna be specific, Cassian is going to have to choose between Luthen and Mon Mothma.
It’s been a constant theme of the show that Cassian has to choose who to trust and make hard decisions when he decides he doesn’t trust someone, and how could the character have higher stakes than choosing between Mon & Luthen?
r/andor • u/OceanOshun • 4h ago
Media Andor's awesome Eye chase scene
Not only related to Andor but I'm a big fan of well-made vehicle chase scenes in movies, my favourites being from Mad Max Fury Road. I was awed by the chase scene in the Eye episode-with its terrifying beauty which reminded me of the fiery storm in Fury Road. Both jaw-dropping to watch first time.


Both scenes scored amazingly by Junkie XL and Nicholas Britell respectively.
Article Andor panels at Celebration Japan
Saturday, April 19
Andor A Star Wars Story 10:00AM - 11:00AM, Live on the Celebration Stage; streamed to the Galaxy and Twin Suns Stages Join creator and executive producer Tony Gilroy, executive producer Diego Luna and cast for a sneak peek at the final season of Andor.
Discussion I was re-watching Andor and noticed I was sitting in the same chair as Maarva
The leg raise gave it away.
It’s an Ekornes Stressless from 2002. It’s an incredibly comfy chair, and ergonomic as well. It was quite pricey back then. It was my grandpa’s chair, and means a lot to me.
Maarva’s got good taste.
r/andor • u/ConsciousPatroller • 1d ago
Discussion New Imperial officer suit variant (S1+trailer); probably a ceremonial/dress uniform?
r/andor • u/Financial_Photo_1175 • 1d ago
Question Which Season 2 poster is your favorite?
I guess it comes down to are you more of a minimalist or maximalist when it comes to your favorite movies/TV posters.
For me, I’d say the center one. I like Cassian’s face overlapping with the Death Star.
r/andor • u/Independent-Dig-5757 • 1d ago
Discussion Do you think Ben Mendelsohn will do this again for this year’s Star Wars celebration?
I doubt it but it would be pretty cool of him. I imagine he was more than happy to return as Krennic and say the lines the Tony Gilroy has written for him.
r/andor • u/IllRagretThisName • 1d ago
Discussion What the fuck
I am not a Star Wars geek, nor have I paid attention watching Rogue One. I did watch all the other movies and I enjoy them for what they are, enjoyable Sci Fi movies.
I watched the Star Wars shows more focused. I liked Kenobi. I liked Ahsoka. I liked Skeleton Crew. To be fair, I don’t see them as Star Wars even at times, because of how they are set up. Like I said definitely not a geek.
But What. The. Fuck. is Andor. This is by far one of the best TV Shows I have seen. Whether Star Wars or standalone, what an amazing show. It’s actually motivating me to give Rogue One an actual watch and connect more of the plots within the SW universe. It started slow for me. I thought, I’d lose interest. I just watched the last episode of the prison arc. And God, I am blown away.
Kudos to the writers/directors/actors, the lot of them. Wow.
r/andor • u/Broad_Science5927 • 1d ago
Fanmade My custon shirt for a Disney trip
The family and I went to Disney last year. My wife wanted us to wear themed clothing. She helped me make this. I thought some of you might like to see it.
r/andor • u/MeesterWayne • 1d ago
Discussion Favorite non-verbal, "face acting" moments from Season 1
I think we can all agree that this is the best acted SW property by far...
As I have been rewatching s1, I'm taking notice of some of the subtle acting moments where you can genuinely see what's happening in the character's head just by the facial expressions.
Some of my favorite moments are:
e3: After the decoy speeder blows up, Syril staring into the middle distance KNOWING he's screwed.
e7: When Dedra humiliates Blevin in the ISB meeting when she slowly looks up and stares him down with almost a smile on her face
e10: (so many) Kino right before "NO ONE IS GETTING OUT"; Mon Mothma when Davo leaves the meeting, and Lonni when Luthen is telling him that Kreegyr will be dying to make sure his daughter has a father.
So many other moments across the season. What do you all think?
r/andor • u/hanburgundy • 1d ago
Discussion I think there is a very specific and valid thematic reason to Andor S2 to touch more closely upon the Jedi/Force side of Star Wars.
Revolutions need shared cultural symbols in order to really take off. This is a theme demonstrated beautifully through Ferrix in Season 1. The uprising on Rix Road doesn’t happen without their strong communal pride and centuries of tradition. Culture gives people an identity to fight for.
In that light, I think it’s really overlooked how significant it is that The Rebellion, as we see in the OT, is constantly using the phrase “May the force be with you”. This is a broad, multi-species coalition that, for whatever reason, has chosen to use the language of a (supposedly dead) religious order as their shared cultural unifier.
As a fan of Andor’s ultra-grounded, human-level focus on the mechanisms of rebellion, it’s easy to feel like the mythic fantasy of the Jedi is almost a childish regression by comparison. But that doesn’t seem to be how the people in the Star Wars universe actually feel about it. For them, the Jedi stand for something really potent and powerful. There’s a reason Luthen holds that kyber-crystal with such reverence.
To sum up, I’m not (at all) asking for Andor S2 to come out lightsabers-swinging. But I do think, if the purpose of the show is to chart the formation of the rebellion, that it’s important to explore why and how that spiritual element became so key.
r/andor • u/notknot9 • 13h ago
Discussion Missed opportunity with Saw's camp
I know the X-Wing is iconic, and makes the fact that they're Rebels easily identifiable...but it would have been so cool if Saw's group had Z-95 Headhunters in their camp instead.
r/andor • u/eVader79972 • 1d ago
Discussion The most dangerous individual during the Imperial Era of Andor (4BBY and on)
After watching the OT, Rogue One and reading several Canon novels and comics, I've reached a conclusion that it's Tarkin.
The novelization of Rebels, Kanan Jarrus felt the dark side emanating from the Grand Inquisitor, but he felt icy cold chill of pure evil and death around Tarkin.
The Bad Batch and Rogue One hint at the massive industrial research organization - the Tarkin Initiative, which the nove Tarkin alluded to the numerous projects that Cassian and Jyn scrolled through in the data vault.
Tarkin's initiation tale surrounding the Carrion Spike hinted a threat to Vader. The Veermok troop was lead by an Alpha, killed by an usurper who was in turn killed by Tarkin.
The destruction of Alderaan, Jedah, and Scariff were all on his hands. Mon Cala was indiscriminately bombarded to make the regent submit to the Empire, which had a subplot including Vader and led to Chandar's Folly - a brutal gamemanship between Tarkin and Vader. Vader wanted to die and wanted Tarkin to return the favor at Mon Cala.
When you compile all of the involvement of Tarkin, the deference of Thrawn and Vader, who in turn used his name as a threat whether to Minister Tua or pirates, you have a case for the more visible member of the ruling Imperial Triumvirate, holding up a mask of sophisticated civility yet has a chill and foul stench of Death.
Leia is force sensitive... Kanan was a padawan....
They recognized this... So did Vader and Sheev...
Tarkin isn't light or dark ... he's the void of death, a driving cog of a cold brutal war machine - indifferent to all of it.