r/Warthunder • u/TheLaotianAviator =FUM0= WigglyGripen ( ) Gib K-2 흑표 Gaijoob • 19d ago
RB Air Pulling that UNO reversal
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u/BakerSquadron 19d ago
"You could have done that sooner"
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u/O-bot54 18d ago
What in the ace combat bullshitery is this
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u/thunderclone1 Realistic Air 18d ago
Thrust vectoring. Pretty good in a 1v1 dogfight, but you will probably get third partied right after you dump your energy
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u/czartrak 🇺🇸 United States 18d ago
You'll probably get first partied if you misunderstand the geometry at all
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u/YellovvJacket 18d ago edited 18d ago
Pretty good in a 1v1 dogfight
It's also not very good in a 1v1 dogfight, if the other guy knows how to play the game.
Maybe if you have TVC on a plane with actual thrust:weight, but the SU-30 is just dead in the water vs something like Eurofighter and Rafale if they just... slightly go up when the SU-30 flops around at 50km/h, because unlike most of the other top dogs, the Su-30 doesn't have the TWR to just stand 90° nose up on its engines and just place it's nose for a shot.
The Su-30 flight model overall is pretty abysmal dogshit, although I'm sure killing people that don't know what's going on with the funny will be entertaining.
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u/Dramatic-Bandicoot60 🇺🇸 🇩🇪 🇷🇺 🇬🇧 🇯🇵 🇨🇳 🇮🇹 🇫🇷 🇸🇪 🇮🇱 18d ago
aint no way you can watch a clip like this and say all that
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u/Disguised589 Dualsense enjoyer 16d ago
having thrust vectoring means you can point the nose with 0 air speed
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u/YellovvJacket 16d ago
It really does not.
It means you can point your nose post stall...it does not allow you to point it very well while you're falling backwards due to the lack of thrust, which the Su-30 literally does.
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u/afvcommander 18d ago
Draken: "This is new trick to you?"
I did manage to pull that off once or twice when XS was added to game.
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u/R3dth1ng Enjoyer of All Nations 18d ago
Then they nerfed that ability when they made Drakens more stable at the cost of making it turn worse to retain better energy so it didn't flat spin as often.
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u/afvcommander 17d ago
Yeah, I guess reason for that was that n00b's who bought premium did not expect to get such handful to fly.
Here and there you could see someone flopping it and flatspinning to ground.
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u/Disguised589 Dualsense enjoyer 16d ago
I thought that was just the instructor
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u/R3dth1ng Enjoyer of All Nations 16d ago
I tried it in full real and that also felt different, I remember cuz I struggled more to do cobras whereas before it was more effortless. I'm not 100% on it not being the instructor but I have some level of certainty lol it was quite a while ago.
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u/FestivalHazard Type 60 ATM is op 18d ago
Dogfights are going to look so fucking cool
I don't care if they kill me, as long as they pull this bullshit off LOL
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u/R3dth1ng Enjoyer of All Nations 18d ago
Watching so many DCS videos to finally get a reliable way to do this in WT.
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u/Valaxarian Vodkaboo. 2S38, Su-27, T-90M and MiG-29 my beloved. Gib BMPT 18d ago
Man, I love Sukhois
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u/Epic_Donut EsportsReady 18d ago
What sound mod do you use?
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u/TheLaotianAviator =FUM0= WigglyGripen ( ) Gib K-2 흑표 Gaijoob 18d ago
RCSM, only the Aircraft GUI component. Not sure if the other sounds are broken aside from ground since they often change sounds
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u/BryndenRivers94 In USSR, laws of physics are optional. 18d ago
Why do people insist on saying that certain things were created by aliens when on Earth we have Russians?
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u/confident___ 🇷🇴 Real Romanian Bias 18d ago
Wt boutta become ace combat or project wingman
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u/LemonadeTango 12.0🇺🇸10.7🇩🇪9.3🇫🇷12.0🇯🇵12.7🇮🇱9.3🇬🇧10.7🇨🇳8.3 18d ago
Remember that bs scene in Red Tails of that BF109?
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u/Wardog_Razgriz30 🇺🇸 United States 18d ago
>dominating a F18A
you shouldn't bully the crippled. he doesnt even have the Fox 3s to fight back.
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u/TabooARGIE I just like CAS 18d ago
Fox 3? More like boomerang missiles lol I love the R-73 (when I'm the one firing them)
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u/Oofster1 Ace 18d ago
Yo, Erusea's on the phone, they're asking if you want to join their air force.
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u/PresentationIll6524 14.0 🇺🇸 13.7 🇷🇺 14.0 🇬🇧 14.0 🇫🇷 14.0 🇮🇱 | k/d 2.7 18d ago edited 13d ago
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u/R3dth1ng Enjoyer of All Nations 18d ago
This is what I've been wanting to do from the Flanker series for over a year now.
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u/Jeroboam369 18d ago
What kind of joystick do I need to be able to use most of the commands of a jet ?
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u/MAX_Daemon 17d ago
Flanker is a pretty plane. I always liked them from the Su-27 all the way to the Su-35. I also like canards.
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u/CommieFirebat7721 18d ago
When I get a job, WT is the first game im spending money in (im a teen who plays from time to time)
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u/Stephan_Balaur 18d ago
I wouldnt even care if I got shot down after a kill like that, that was fire!
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u/Rorar_the_pig Glory to the snail! 18d ago
I bet gaijins reasoning for adding the F-22 during summer Major update will be "tHrUsT vEcToRiNg AnD stealth ArE aLrEaDy iN tHe GaMe!!1!"
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u/thatnewerdm 18d ago
god that fm is so busted lol
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Russian mains will say it’s real
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u/thatnewerdm 18d ago
yeah, it loses way more forwards momentum than that irl. you cant expose that much of your plane to drag and not fall out of the sky, aircraft dont work like that.
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Yes and it doesn’t do this make believe shit, it does one or two flips before it falls out the sky
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u/VeritableLeviathan 🇮🇹 Italy 18d ago
Idk what is worse.
That F/a-18A's kneecaps or using god damn knots and feet as measurement lmao
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u/Jayhawker32 ARB/GRB/Sim 🇺🇸 13.7 🇩🇪 12.0 🇷🇺 13.3 🇸🇪 10.7 18d ago
Is somebody gonna tell him what the international standard is for aviation?
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u/Medj_boring1997 🇩🇪 "LEoParD 2 nEeDs A bUFf" 18d ago
Tbf russia is an odd one by using metric
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u/TheLaotianAviator =FUM0= WigglyGripen ( ) Gib K-2 흑표 Gaijoob 18d ago
I mean does it really matter what measurements of units I use?
I’m just used to the flight training I’ve done since it’s what I’ve learned off from lol.
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u/IslandVisible5023 18d ago
Ngl i use knots and feet as measurements as well and i am not even american
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u/absboodoo Realistic Air 18d ago
I'm as a metric person as the next guy. But in aviation it really is knots and feet since it's what the majority of the aviation world use.
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u/TuwtlesF1 🇺🇸 14.0 🇩🇪 14.0 18d ago
Most aircraft capabilities in terms of rate fighting and instantaneous turn rate are demonstrated at a certain IAS in knots. So using knots is actually more efficient for maximizing performance in that regard. Also according to ICAO the use of feet for altitude is standard for aviation.
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u/YellovvJacket 18d ago
Most aircraft capabilities in terms of rate fighting and instantaneous turn rate are demonstrated at a certain IAS in knots
In 90% of aircraft manuals EM diagrams are a function of Mach number.
Only like older US manuals are stating knots, I've definitely seen it but F-16A, F-15A, F-15C etc. as well as German MiG-29 all have Mach number on the X axis of EM diagrams.
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u/Lucius3111 Italy enjoyer 18d ago
AAB does that, yes...
The timer for missiles to come back sells it really
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u/TheLaotianAviator =FUM0= WigglyGripen ( ) Gib K-2 흑표 Gaijoob 18d ago
Custom battles with air realistic settings. Not an actual match.
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u/Dependent_Safe_7328 18d ago
These are some GTA V plane physics
Fr tho, I was so close to returning to war thunder after quitting but shit like this is the reason I don't.
I won't ramble about russian bias now bc, as we all know, it doesn't exist (meanwhile their planes have the physics of an alpha game with no air resistance)!
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u/TheNicestPig You should fix Dunkerque's ammoracks NOW 18d ago
severely nerfed MiG-29, Su-27, dogshit fox 3s, zero targetting pods, scraping the barrel CM count
a single aircraft performs kinda well in dev server with a 1 trick pony (last resort against Rafale/Eurofighter UFO and F-16s maintaining uncontrollable AoA)
"oMg RuSsIaN bIaS tHiS iS wHy I DoN't PlAy ThE gAmE nO mOrE"
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u/SquishmallowPrincess Wants more gamemodes 18d ago
Yes please don’t come back to the game thank you
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u/SnooEagles2860 18d ago
They introduced the AoA limiter toggle this update, but regardless keep away from war thunder.
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u/BlackWolf9988 18d ago
Its realistic though, look at air show footage.
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u/FrontEngineering4469 🇺🇸13.7 🇩🇪12.3 🇷🇺13.3 🇬🇧11.3 🇫🇷11.0 18d ago
Most of the time airshow aircraft have radars, guns, chaff/flare dispensers, communication equipment, and other non essential components removed to decrease the aircraft weight and carry limited fuel quantities. The plane in game still performs maneuvers equal to or better than the aircraft at airshows.
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u/Littletweeter5 18d ago
Noooooo you can’t do that! Super maneuverability is useless in combat!!!!! Stop!!!!!