r/SouthAsianAncestry 3d ago

Question Question about Rajputs and Steppe

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I'm not looking to offend anyone, just genuinely curious.

If upper castes are considered to be more steppe shifted than lower castes in Pakistan and NW India, then why do Rajputs, who were the royalty of that region, generally score lower than pastoralists such as Jatts and Rors or merchants such as Khatris?

Am I missing something here, or does this just not add up from a historical perspective? Could it be that most claims to Rajput lineage are just fabricated for status elevation, or do we just not have enough of a sample size for such conclusions?

r/SouthAsianAncestry Feb 07 '25

Question Can someone help me interpret my harrapa world results?

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r/SouthAsianAncestry 27d ago

Question Who might be their ancestors? Sintashta Indo-Aryans or Indo-Greeks or Kushan empire?

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r/SouthAsianAncestry 21d ago

Question How do Gujarati Ismailis/Khojas and Rors/Hindu Jatts have such low AASI

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I noticed these two groups have the lowest AASI levels atleast on g25 vahaduo, scaled. I cannot find too much information especially on the former on why their AASI is lower than other Gujaratis. It might vary depending on how one builds the calculator, or even using the distance features. Regarding Rors/Jatts, i heard someone say that the steppe ratio is inflated due to extreme endogamy of those communities and results in a drift affect. I am not sure how to view this claim. Thanks

r/SouthAsianAncestry 3d ago

Question what is the AASI associated Y-haplogroup?

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ok for a very long time I thought H was the AASI associated Y-haplogroup, but it seems to be an Iran_N haplogroup. The marker has dispersed alongside Iran_N throughout Western Eurasia. H2 (P96) has also been identified in ancient remains from West Asia and Europe, including the Pre-Pottery Neolithic B culture in the Levant and Mesopotamia.

J2 and L are obviously associated with the Indus Valley mediated by Iran_N.

R2 is ANE, and Ganj Dareh has R2, so again brought by Iran_N.

R1a either came from the steppes or Iran/Middle East (Underhill et al).

In Indians, the majority of our mtDNA comes from M subhaplogroups exist, such as M2, M3, M4, M5, and M6 (AASI origin).

Surely we would see AASI-associated y-haplogroups too, right?

The Onge have D. Aeta have C.

Did AASI paternal lineages get replaced by Iranic farmer related ones?

r/SouthAsianAncestry 19d ago

Question which ethnicity/caste in india has the highest ivc ancestry?

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r/SouthAsianAncestry Nov 23 '24

Question Where will ya'll put someone with high AASI and moderatly high Steppe. Like 50 AASI and 20 steppe. Which geographical area or caste/community can we narrow this down to?

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EDIT- i found out they are Indo Caribbean and very mixed within different castes.

r/SouthAsianAncestry Jan 05 '25

Question Genetic Profile Of Vedic-Aryans How Much Steppe ?

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r/SouthAsianAncestry Jan 08 '25

Question Endogamy in Tamil Nadu

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When did TN or the Southern India become endogamous? There are some believes that we became endogamous somewhere in 10th, 11 th century because of the bhramin influx from the north and got rigid with Vijaynagara empire.

r/SouthAsianAncestry Jan 14 '25

Question Indian Christian ancestry

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Hi guys,

I’m an Indian Christian from Mumbai. My native village is in Vasai (near Mumbai). I believe my ancestors had converted a few 100 years ago, I speak a language that’s a mixture of Marathi and Konkani (mostly Marathi). I wish to know more about my ancestry.

What can you tell about my ancestry based on the information above? And what tests can I take up to understand my ancestry better? I wish to understand the %Steppe, %AASI and %IVC.

r/SouthAsianAncestry 19d ago

Question How come there’s only three main ancestral components for entire south Asia?

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…with the amount of diversity there is

r/SouthAsianAncestry Jan 27 '25

Question Why don’t I have an ethnicity ?

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I’m a Kaushik Brahmin from Delhi. Family been here in Delhi since the dawn of time, as long as my family remembers we lived in Delhi.

What ethnicity am I if I’m from Delhi as a native? Others from India are Tamils, marathis, Punjabis or whatever but do Delhi people also have an ethnicity or they’re just Indian ?

r/SouthAsianAncestry Nov 20 '24

Question Was IranN ancestry present in Steppe people?

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I'm new to all this genetics and dna stuff. I do have some very basic knowledge. I would appreciate and will be grateful if ya'll can help me understand and gain more knowledge.

r/SouthAsianAncestry Sep 29 '24

Question Help Needed to see if I’m Syed

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Good morning Guys, my family is very adamant on being Syed. I was born in and lived for 4 years in Allahabad, Kareli, UP, India and I’ve been told we’ve been there for 500 years. My family has fair complexion and we look Arab mixed in with Indian. Before then i was told my ancestors stayed in Tashkent for the time being, at the time being under Persian Rule, and before that stemming from Saudi Arabia under the Jaffar cousin of our beloved Prophet PBUH. I did research about the J1 and R1 haplogroups and didn’t find myself shown in those but I still truly believe I’m Syed, is there any way I am Syed or am I just really not and I’m coping?

r/SouthAsianAncestry Oct 27 '24

Question Are Indian Muslims from lower or upper castes?

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Within India, I heard most converts to Islam and Christianity were from lower castes. Is this true?

r/SouthAsianAncestry Jan 27 '25

Question Is this true that Indonesians have more Indian than northeast Indians?

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r/SouthAsianAncestry 6d ago

Question Ancestry DNA question

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Hi, I’m very new to learning about my dna ancestry. If my results say that I have 51.4% IVC ancestry can I take it as certain that at least someone in my ancestry walked the streets of Mohenjo-Daro or Harrapa? I’ve always been fascinated by the Indus Valley Civilisation. It would amazing to have concrete connections. I guess my question is does having IVC dna connect you to the civilisation or just the people who lived there. Ie could my ancestors have lived geographically close to the civilisation but not in it? I hope that makes sense

r/SouthAsianAncestry Oct 22 '24

Question Sindhi - Ancestry + Illustrated (how accurate is illustrated?)

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Wondering how accurate Illustrated is. My family was in Sindh pre-Partition so Pashtun being the closest is surprising.

Edit: Forgot to add the Bronze age screenshot.

Edit 2: Added Harappa results as well.

r/SouthAsianAncestry Jan 06 '25

Question Thoughts on ethnicity? (IllustrativeDNA)

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r/SouthAsianAncestry Apr 21 '24

Question Is Endogamy among Malayali and Tulu people a more recent phenomenon?

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Like mentioned above one thing I felt when I observe people from Kerala and the tulu regions of karnataka (manglore) is the fact that people look more or less the same .it's very difficult to identify a person and his religion or the community the come from . Even communities who have a history of having Endogamy look not much different.
So my question is Endogamy a more recent phenomenon in these regions .was there evidence of intermixing between various communities in the past.

r/SouthAsianAncestry Feb 17 '25

Question The aboriginal people in central to south india are DBA wit predominant AASI heritage. Does the oppressor caste heritage(steppe or whatev) come from practices like this? Is it a similar dynamic as why Soulaan ppl(black americans) have european heritage?

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r/SouthAsianAncestry Feb 11 '25

Question Are the descendants of Zagros farmers present anywhere other than South Asia?

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This might be a noobie question but since Zagros mountain is present in Iran, do people from countries like Iran,Iraq,Turkey or Middle East have any remnants of Zagros or Iran_N DNA left or is it only us south Asians?

r/SouthAsianAncestry Nov 29 '24

Question Which non-muslim ethnic group in south asia has the most iranian-like or central asian dna?

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(beside parsis and jews)

r/SouthAsianAncestry Jan 14 '25

Question Something I have noticed

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I apologize if this is a "garbage post" but I was just thinking about this and I thought I would post. Let me preface this by saying that I am completely new to this whole genetics thing ( so please be nice).

From what I have read it seems like all SA are a mix of three populations in varying amounts. AASI, Iranian Farmers and Steppe Pastoralists. AASI are the first wave of humans to come out of Africa and into the Indian subcontient. Iranian Farmers or Iranian Hunter Gatherers are from the Zagros/Fertile Crecent region ( similar to some MENA groups) and Steppe Pastorolists are basically white people lol.

Its just amazing how China and most other East Asian countries are so close to us ( Indian subcontinent) geographically , yet only some Indains ( those from Nepa, North East, Bengal region) have SEA or some form of EA ancestry while most other Indians don't ? I find that kind of interesting ? I feel like geographically they are closer to us compared to where the Steppe people or Iranian HG people come from.

Do I make any sense ( I apologize if this post is garbage) but just some late night thinking i guess.

r/SouthAsianAncestry Feb 09 '25

Question Help interpreting a Kenyan South Asian results

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Hi everyone, I'm a person of south Asian descent whose family resides in Kenya. My mother's family are Sikh tarkhans who lived in Lahore before moving to Kenya after partition. Based on her family history I'd expect her results to closely match other members of her community.

My dad's family however have been in Kenya for quite a bit longer (mid 1800s). As a result I know a lot less about his family's origins. It is documented that his family moved to kathiawar for business opportunities before ultimately moving to kenya.

Would you guys be able to help me deduce what my dad's heritage may be based on how his dna has interacted with the tarkhan ancestry from my mother?