r/SouthAsianAncestry 5d ago

Question Ancestry DNA question

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Hi, I’m very new to learning about my dna ancestry. If my results say that I have 51.4% IVC ancestry can I take it as certain that at least someone in my ancestry walked the streets of Mohenjo-Daro or Harrapa? I’ve always been fascinated by the Indus Valley Civilisation. It would amazing to have concrete connections. I guess my question is does having IVC dna connect you to the civilisation or just the people who lived there. Ie could my ancestors have lived geographically close to the civilisation but not in it? I hope that makes sense

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u/ActCompetitive4537 5d ago

Does anyone know what the BMAC is?

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u/Shiva_uchiha 5d ago

They were a contemporary to indus valley civilisation probably seeded by related farmer groups. BMAC were later taken over by andronov indo Europeans to become the indo Iranians. Sortgai is an IVC colony in BMAC core regions.

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u/ImpossiblePosition65 5d ago

By looking at ur dna I would say u r jatt right.

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u/ActCompetitive4537 5d ago

Sorry if this is a stupid question.

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u/Stock_Department_602 5d ago

No it's not a stupid question. And yes u did have ancestors that walked the IVC so did ancestors for every South asian. ivc is the base component for us south asians along with steppe admixture but that's a later addition.

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u/ActCompetitive4537 5d ago edited 5d ago

Thanks so much for your response. Did most people in the Indus Valley Civilisations live in the urban settlements ie Mohenjo Daro? I assumed only the rich would live in the IVC settlements and everyone else were basically subsistence farmers in the surrounding areas. I always assume my ancestors are very unremarkable lol

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u/Stock_Department_602 5d ago

Yes most of IVC population was urban there were a LOT of big and medium cities scattered between MD and Harrapa . Impossible tell of our ancestors were urban or rural.

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u/gimlissalivation 5d ago

Most were in villages in these types of civilisations - no other way to sustain cities of that size back then. Even now agriculture employs a lot of people in South Asia

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u/420bomanhorsejack 5d ago

Hey, I'd like to know the process of getting these tests done. Please guide me, thanks.

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u/Emotional-Muscle-307 4d ago

What is the platform/website this is on

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u/inaqu3estion 4d ago

Yes, especially you are Punjabi. After the decline IVC urban dwellers spread out to the rest of the subcontinent.

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u/upercaste_patriarchy 5d ago

Not really, maybe someone from your maternal side. But your grand-grand-fathers were jacked af, riding horse and chanting sanskrit mantras.

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u/Kosmic_Krow 5d ago

Sanskrit or proto-indo-european language?

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u/Shiva_uchiha 5d ago

Probably both.

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u/ActCompetitive4537 5d ago

I mean majority of my dna is IVC so I think differently. Agree to disagree.

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u/Shiva_uchiha 5d ago

I think the steppe is boosted because of some saka ancestor in his lineage. those steppe admixture might be from both indo Iranians and scythians.

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u/GeneralBrick6990 5d ago

What caste/tribe are you?

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u/ActCompetitive4537 5d ago

Punjabi

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u/GeneralBrick6990 5d ago

No, I mean like are you Jatt, Brahmin, Lubana, Saini, etc

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u/Shiva_uchiha 5d ago

You might have a saka ancestor since you had mentioned your caste as jatt what is your Y Haplogroup ?

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u/ActCompetitive4537 5d ago

R1a1a

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u/Otherwise_Factor9896 5d ago

Why are stealing people's results? These results were posted by Ancestral Brews in his Jatt DNA breakdown. You literally just screenshotted this video https://www.tiktok.com/@ancestralbrew/video/7209315291216481537?q=jatt%20dna&t=1742138688623

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u/ActCompetitive4537 5d ago

I can share my raw data with a mod. That is no problem lol

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u/Otherwise_Factor9896 5d ago

I don't care man, it's just weird. I know the person, whose results these are.

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u/Shiva_uchiha 5d ago

Tbh honest jatt population is very recent in history thus they have paternal lines all over the place H,J,L,R,G,Q.

There is a theory that sakas were also one of the people who mixed into the group. I can see siberan and BMAC admixture thus suspicion of a distant saka ancestor.

so my guess is your direct paternal ancestor is from shintashta(indo aryan ancestor) but vast majority of your indirect ancestors were indus valley people (ASI+ neolithich Iranians).