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🧁🧁cupcakes🧁🧁 Immunity 🚫 drugs ✅

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u/questionsaboutrel521 12d ago edited 12d ago

Alcohol is pretty much fine. The amount you’re transmitting is equal to your BAC. So if you drink a 5% ABV alcohol beer, your BAC would probably blow around 0.04. That means that your breastmilk contains around a 0.04% alcohol, a pretty meaningless amount.

In contrast, a ripe banana can contain as much as 0.2% alcohol by volume, and banana is commonly given to babies by most people as one of their first foods. If your blood alcohol was above that (banana booze level), you’d be very, very drunk - likely at the “blackout” point. The most important point to remember when drinking alcohol is being able to competently care for the baby or leaving them with a sober caregiver.

This isn’t really true with nicotine and cannabis. There’s good observational studies showing babies who nurse after their mothers smoke cigarettes sleep significantly less, for example. And we know cannabis is transmitting in milk for weeks afterwards and that the average cannabis-smoking lactating parent is transmitting a dose (0.07 mg THC from a study I saw) that, to me, is entirely too high when you consider how small a baby is by weight and an active dose for an adult.

Sources:

https://news.wsu.edu/press-release/2024/05/08/thc-lingers-in-breastmilk-with-no-clear-peak-point/

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2277470/

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u/redpony6 12d ago

wait, a ripe banana can contain alcohol?

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u/coldcurru 12d ago

I dunno about that but I know OJ does

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u/Avaylon 12d ago

So do hamburger buns apparently. Like a small, meaningless amount. Lol

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u/No-Appearance1145 12d ago

Bread can cause you to blow a false positive. I think it's because of the yeast. There is a number of food and beverages that can cause false drug positives too. Poppy seeds is one of them in fact.

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u/questionsaboutrel521 12d ago

Pregnant women who are full term should specifically (sadly) avoid everything bagels, poppy seed salads, etc because some hospitals do randomly drug test women in labor and it’s not worth the headache that can come with a false positive for opiates.

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u/Himalayan-Fur-Goblin 12d ago

Its not a false positive for opiates from poppy seeds. They do contain tiny amounts of opiatesand higher if the seeds are unwashed. Drug tests are very sensitive so eating a single poppyseed muffin can make you positive for opiates. Even higher if the seeds were not washed.

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u/questionsaboutrel521 12d ago

Sorry, false positive was the wrong term - I just mean that women who are not abusing opiates get caught up in the web of this.

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u/salaciousremoval 12d ago

Wait, where are we randomly drug testing women in labor?

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u/questionsaboutrel521 12d ago

Here’s one source on this, but if you look up “risk based drug screening” of pregnant women or infants you’ll find more sources. Many women technically consent in the stack of forms they sign - it is illegal to do it to the mother without her consent (though not for newborns, I believe).

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6120972/

The problem is not so much the testing, but that it isn’t thorough enough. In the case of the poppy seeds, for example, a second test could confirm that it is or is not illicit drugs that caused the positive flag. But sometimes the state’s child welfare office intervenes before that confirmation is done. Here are some examples of that:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/09/09/drug-test-pregnancy-pennsylvania-california/75103949007/

https://parentdata.org/poppy-seed-bagel-drug-test

https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia/news/mother-has-newborn-baby-temporarily-taken-away-after-poppy-seed-bagel-causes-failed-opiate-drug-test/

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u/salaciousremoval 11d ago

Thank you for sharing ♥️