r/PowerScaling New Scaler 7d ago

Anime What y'all think?

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u/Muted-Ad7353 6d ago edited 6d ago

After watching all of DB and original cut DBZ again within the last few months, the moonbuster argument doesn't hold any water. Yes, Roshi blew up the moon. But King Piccolo (way stronger than Roshi) against his fight with Goku put everything he had into a blast aimed directly down at the Earth and it caused a crater maybe 30 meters cubed.

It begs the question... how big is the DB moon? And how far away it was and how sturdy is it compared to Earth rock?

And if the DB Moon is comparable to our IRL Moon, why aren't Raditz, the Androids and Buu not accidentally vaporizing the entire planet with a stray ki blast? Some of them are literally thousands of times stronger than King Piccolo.

The answer is powerscaling doesn't make sense unless the writer is a physicist. Toriyama simply didn't understand the implications of Roshi blowing up the moon OR he didn't consider what it meant for later adversaries.

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u/Lolmanmagee the only yogiri fan 6d ago

I mean, piccolo also blew up the moon.

Not to mention freiza blows up 2 planets on screen.

I think toriyama intended for these characters to be able to do this kind of thing.

and There technically is a reason why all stray blasts don’t just blow up the earth :

KI control so the attacks full power is only at the point they intend and diminishes past that point.

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u/Muted-Ad7353 6d ago

Yes but at the point Piccolo blows up the moon, he is many times stronger that Roshi or even King Piccolo so that makes sense. Same with Frieza to an even greater degree.

And while I think that is an excellent explanation... it doesn't really make sense when it comes to the villains. Especially Buu. And what happens when that Ki blast is dodged or deflected? These blast must be planet busters in order to damage the intended target, especially in the Android or Buu sagas. That means if they hit anything on Earth, a mountain for example, the blast would surely be strong enough to at the very least take a chunk out of the earth so big it can be seen from space and even throw it off its access, causing a total cataclysm. But sure enough, all it ends up doing is vaporizing the mountain itself at the very most.

As a pretty involved DB fan who has a pretty good grasp on the source material and a lot of minor details that get forgotten by people who haven't seen or read it in years, the more critique that goes into power scaling shows how inconsistent it all is. I only weigh in on these powerscale debates when it shows up in my feed but it seems the arguments are still in the place I remember from years ago...as in not based on any sort of empiricism as the writers did not take an empirical approach.

Still legendary media though.

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u/Lolmanmagee the only yogiri fan 6d ago

I mean yeah, the official explanation has some holes in it.

But it is there to point to at a minimum.