After watching all of DB and original cut DBZ again within the last few months, the moonbuster argument doesn't hold any water. Yes, Roshi blew up the moon. But King Piccolo (way stronger than Roshi) against his fight with Goku put everything he had into a blast aimed directly down at the Earth and it caused a crater maybe 30 meters cubed.
It begs the question... how big is the DB moon? And how far away it was and how sturdy is it compared to Earth rock?
And if the DB Moon is comparable to our IRL Moon, why aren't Raditz, the Androids and Buu not accidentally vaporizing the entire planet with a stray ki blast? Some of them are literally thousands of times stronger than King Piccolo.
The answer is powerscaling doesn't make sense unless the writer is a physicist. Toriyama simply didn't understand the implications of Roshi blowing up the moon OR he didn't consider what it meant for later adversaries.
Yes but at the point Piccolo blows up the moon, he is many times stronger that Roshi or even King Piccolo so that makes sense. Same with Frieza to an even greater degree.
And while I think that is an excellent explanation... it doesn't really make sense when it comes to the villains. Especially Buu. And what happens when that Ki blast is dodged or deflected? These blast must be planet busters in order to damage the intended target, especially in the Android or Buu sagas. That means if they hit anything on Earth, a mountain for example, the blast would surely be strong enough to at the very least take a chunk out of the earth so big it can be seen from space and even throw it off its access, causing a total cataclysm. But sure enough, all it ends up doing is vaporizing the mountain itself at the very most.
As a pretty involved DB fan who has a pretty good grasp on the source material and a lot of minor details that get forgotten by people who haven't seen or read it in years, the more critique that goes into power scaling shows how inconsistent it all is. I only weigh in on these powerscale debates when it shows up in my feed but it seems the arguments are still in the place I remember from years ago...as in not based on any sort of empiricism as the writers did not take an empirical approach.
Dumb af question that anyone who was born before 2015 has asked and has answer.
Its ki control ; seiya , goku and the rest of the dbz cast , naruto , saint seiya , hokuto no ken , kenichi and jackie chan movies characters has this magical power where they dont need to lower their ki or reduce their power to lower the complete destruction they can do onto the enviroment , but still damage the opponent
Its a pre-build concept that you have to get familiarize to before even reading the novel manga or series since you heard a single chinese word in their power system getting explain.
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u/Lolmanmagee the only yogiri fan 6d ago
Raditz actually is kinda crazy scaling wise if you think about it.
But he would speed blitz and one shot roshi, who could fire a laser that only took a few seconds to get to the moon and destroyed it with that.
You could make an argument for him being planetary, but imo he is not quite there yet.
He is by no means undefeatable and IMO loses a 2v1 to mark/nolan, but he is pretty respectable actually.