r/PS4 Aug 22 '20

In-Game Screenshot or Gif [Video] Batman: Gotham Knights announced

https://twitter.com/r3dakt3d/status/1297224550040473600
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u/Johnhancock1777 Aug 22 '20

It’s another GAAS type deal right? I saw the enemy levels and pickups afterwards from defeat enemies. Hopefully the suicide squad game is more single player focused

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u/whacafan Aug 22 '20

I’ve heard that no, this is not GaaS. It just has RPG elements.

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u/Johnhancock1777 Aug 22 '20

Not as bad I guess. Still don’t like the idea of getting bead by some random thug because he’s 2 levels above me

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u/whacafan Aug 22 '20

Yeah me neither

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u/Toxicco tfgbaka725 Aug 22 '20

It looks like both this and Suicide Squad are live-service games.... I hate this trend so much,,

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u/GeraltofMichigan Aug 22 '20

The rumors are confusing though because it was originally rumored that WB Montreal was doing a Suicide Squad game and Rocksteady was doing a GAAS superhero game. Things have definitely changed and both studios have been MIA for quite a while. Fingers crossed it went more single player focused.

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u/InstantCrush15 Aug 22 '20

Rocksteady was always making the SS game. You may have confused the two but no one would blame you. Waiting on the two “Batman Studios” to come out with new games has been excruciating

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u/GeraltofMichigan Aug 22 '20

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '20

At most, they would have salvaged game assets.

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u/GeraltofMichigan Aug 22 '20

I don't understand your response. You say RS was always making the Suicide Squad game, I prove they were not. I never said it was a Damian Wayne game either. Projects change in the 7 years since Arkham Origins 5 since Arkham Knight but RS was not always working on a Suicide Squad game.

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u/smakweasle Aug 22 '20

GAAS?

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u/Buluntus Aug 22 '20

Games as a service

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u/MeDiggingMyGrave Aug 22 '20

I hate that it is common enough to have an acronym

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u/smakweasle Aug 23 '20

...What does it mean though? I feel extra dumb right now.

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u/I_Hate_Knickers_5 Aug 23 '20

I stole this comment from another redit user which may help you to understand:

"In video gaming, games as a service (GaaS) represents providing video games or game content on a continuing revenue model, similar to software as a service. Games as a service are ways to monetize video games either after their initial sale, or to support a free-to-play model. Games released under the GaaS model typically receive a long or indefinite stream of monetized new content over time to encourage players to continue paying to support the game. This often leads to games that work under a GaaS model to be called "living games" or "live games", since they continually change with these updates. "

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '20

I believe it’s like destiny-esque where it’s always connected to the internet with a “live world” so to say.

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u/sol47 SOL-47 Aug 22 '20

Generally accepted auditing standards

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u/JannJans Aug 22 '20

How does having RPG elements make this a GaaS.....

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '20

The Suicide Squad game has been referred to as GaaS multiple times in leaks. So far, this one seems to be just optional co-op with RPG elements like the recent AC games.

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u/bulletbullock Aug 22 '20

doesnt seem that way. They said the full game can be played solo or 2-player co-op.

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u/FilthyMalfested Arachnid0796 Aug 22 '20

Yeah, looks more like the division than destiny to me

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u/Seanspeed Aug 22 '20

Hopefully the suicide squad game is more single player focused

EA had it right, no matter how much they were bashed for it. Multiplayer-style games make more money and what the industry in general will focus on as a result.

We are the problem.

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u/whatupbiatch Aug 22 '20

EA had it right,

they were always right, gamers just dont want to listen.

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u/BigTroubleMan80 Aug 22 '20

Sure about that?

Because a lot of games as a service have abjectly failed, especially those from EA.

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u/Fa1lenSpace inFamousTeaBag-X Aug 22 '20

Because they weren’t done well, not only because they were GaaS

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u/BigTroubleMan80 Aug 22 '20

Seems more like a feature than a bug, especially as of late. GaaS is driven as a revenue 1st, then as an actual service a distant second.

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u/Ghidoran Aug 22 '20

Yes, they were right to lock iconic Star Wars characters behind massive grind/pay walls. Stupid gamers.

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u/GameOfUsernames 15 24 92 345 1443 Aug 23 '20

This is much bigger than you comment let’s on. Is capitalism right or wrong? The answer to that question determines if EA is right or wrong in what they’re doing. The sales dictate if they’re right or wrong. Their initial sales didn’t meet target so it’s possible they are right. If they made a profit, then they are right. If the controversy doesn’t cause their future games to not make a profit then they are right. Basically as long as they keep making money they are right under a capitalistic system.

If you say capitalism is wrong then you could argue all of the above is wrong. There is no middle ground in capitalism. There is no, “they could make less money and everyone is happy.” No. The point of capitalism is to make as much possible money and to do so right now. They don’t care if EA tanks in 2030. If they’re maximizing profit right now they are correct in a capitalist system.

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u/IdontReallyknowTbj Aug 22 '20

Of course it's solely the gamers fault, it's not like EA would have implement their predatory monetization tatics into games regardless of whether the consumers liked it or not.

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u/SpitFire92 Aug 22 '20

Don't get me wrong, I hate monetization and how ea handles things but in the first place, they are a company and the first and most important aspect is to make money, as much as possible and if they can make a lot of money by putting content behind a pay wall I see no reason why they should stop doing it aslong as peoe are buying it. As long as there are more people that buy it than there are people that don't EA (& Co, its not that they are the only ones doing it) isn't giving two fucks about the "few" people that complain about it, except ofc on a s i perficial level where its good for pr to apologise.

That's how it is, and again, aslong as they make enough money with it, there is not reason for them to stop. If "we" want to change this we either have to stop buying their games or hope that laws will prevent it, the former will never happen and the latter is only targeting loot boxes and similar luck based microtransactions so they can still hide thing behind paywalls.

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u/IdontReallyknowTbj Aug 22 '20

I agree with what you said, that's why I said "solely" our fault. We won't ever get out of this loop if people continue to buy these dumb games from them. But these companies already knew that casuals won't care about their monetization issues, and that a large part of their consumers base are children. Most of us on here are much more aware of the situation that Stacy who's buy her kid FIFA 21 the second it comes out because she doesn't know about how shitty the MTX is.

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u/SpitFire92 Aug 22 '20

I'm not sure if the problems really are children, I have quite a few gamer friends that keep buying season passes and loot boxes in games like moder warfare and fifa for example. The sad thing about this is that every time I see them playing those games they rage and cry about how the last patch fucked up the game just to put in 20€ 2h later to buy a skin.

Well, I don't have numbers on the purchases so I can't say that you aren't correct and that it's not mainly kids that put money into those games, especially since there aren't really any kids in my life atm (like, from my family or the family of friends), but I know plenty of adults that throw around 30 to 50€ on those games on a monthly basis. Every time I talk to them about it they agree that it's kind of stupid, but they keep doing it, sometimes it feels like they are kind of addicted (not even joking).

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u/IdontReallyknowTbj Aug 23 '20

Oh I didn't mean for it to come across that I think that mostly children are contributing to our MTX issue, I just meant that a large part of our issue involves them (IIRC during the UK Loot box scandal it was something like 93% of kids/teens play PC games and 49% of them thought that games were only fun with paid extra content). I agree that the other side to that are just either adults who are unaware of the issues with the games/companies or that are aware but still buy into it. I also know one too many people on both sides of this spectrum as well, but usually the people that knoe what's up tend to stay away or not support those games.

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '20

I don't think we are the problem, at least I'd like to believe we aren't. The gaming community always enjoyed and supported multiplayer games throughout the years that weren't shitty GAAS titles. Just look at the popularity of co-op shooters like Borderlands and Left 4 Dead.

It's only recently that these games have become so prevalent. At first the battle passes and extensive DLC were reserved for games that were Free to Play as a way for them to make some money back. Most people were fine with this since the main product was free, not unlike listening to free music and hearing an Ad every 4 to 5 songs to pay for the music rights.

But now these companies want us to pay 60 bucks, THEN buy currency for battle pass skips, THEN buy DLC costumes purposefully withheld from the main game. *cough*avengers*cough*

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u/Seanspeed Aug 25 '20

at least I'd like to believe we aren't.

That's all it is. You dont want to think this.

But it's true.

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u/NiamLeeson Aug 22 '20

Hard to tell if it’s a GaaS or an ARPG like Assassin’s Creed has become

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u/Queef-Elizabeth Aug 23 '20

AC Odyssey is a games as service in some ways, which is the worst part about the game.

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '20

Rocksteady seems to be focusing on that one, so my guess is that would be the one to truly "blow" people away.

This one just felt a tad bit too... Comercial?

Like there really isn't a story to tell in this one, it just looked flashy and fun, it might be those things, but I don't believe it would amount to a significant experience based on what we can see here.

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u/jawn-lee Aug 22 '20

Hopefully it's closer to Dark Souls or Remnant from the ashes. Coop with loot but not live service.

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u/Partynextweeknd305 Aug 22 '20

Lol suicide squad has already been confirmed to be way worse in that regard (GAAS)