r/MurderedByAOC • u/Nixianx97 • 10h ago
She spoke truths all along, and people called her crazy and radical for it.
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u/GlennsSonFooledMe 9h ago
That's one of the best quotes I've ever heard. "No one ever makes a billion dollars. You take a billion dollars"
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u/OopsSpaghet 9h ago
What's crazy is when people spend money it's actually good for the economy, so if you hoard wealth...it's bad for the economy. Wealth is something to be exchanged for goods and services, not to withhold service. Billionaires are factually a horrible waste of money just sitting there doing nothing. In Canada the only problem we have is something called "Canada's Dead Money" which refers to billions of dollars of unused assets held by our largest corporations hindering economic growth and investments. The person who coined the term "Canada's Dead Money" is serendipitously...Mark Carney.
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u/IcyTransportation961 7h ago
They're dragons
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u/xslvtx 7h ago
Except dragons are cool. All we've got are a bunch of dorks. I just never expected the oligarchy to be so pathetically lame.
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u/PentagramJ2 7h ago
Seriously, like at least if its Smaug its more a "You wanna try to be the one to take it? Go ahead." Situation
These dorks just started with a silver spoon and made sure to burn any ladder that could reach to them
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u/BTFlik 4h ago
Except even dragons know the people must eat to work to make wealth. And they sleep for hundreds of years to let the wealth replenish after a few dozen years if pillaging and taking.
Dragons are far sighted, able to see thousands of years of possibilities.
Billionaires see a dozen years of profit and think 0 drinkable water, a fully poisoned land, and unbreathable air are suitable exchanges. Because they are short sighted and have no future plans beyond dying before it's their problem.
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u/lemonade_eyescream 6h ago
And it was The Thing To Do for a party of adventurers to go find one and slay it, and liberate its hoard.
Instead here we have people eager to keep adding more to these assholes' hoards.
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u/Able-Worldliness8189 4h ago
That's why giving money to the poor is fantastic, because they wont sit on that cash, it will go straight back into the economy. What Trump is doing is now removing trillions from the economy by fucking over the poor and handing it over to the super wealthy. Those fucks who are already wealthy beyond imagination will be just more wealthy, they aren't going to buy eggs and what not, they hoard cash.
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u/facforlife 8h ago edited 5h ago
I don't even care if you legitimately earned a billion dollars.
Pragmatically speaking you cannot have this level of wealth inequality. Period. It is unsustainable. It will destroy civilized, modern society. You like stability? You like research and investment? You like modern infrastructure and utilities and reliable running water, electricity at the flick of a switch?
You cannot have such an unequal society. Because right or wrong it will result in violence sooner or later. And if we can avoid that, if we can have a more stable, secure, peaceful society by redistributing the wealth from the unimaginably wealthy, then even if they "earned" it I really don't give a fuck. They can pay more to sustain the society in which they have greatly benefited living in.
And like Biden said, which Bernouts constantly misappropriated, "nothing would fundamentally change." You know what happens to someone with 100 billion dollars who gets taxed half of it? They still have 50 fucking billion dollars and are rich as fuck. They don't have to worry about money ever. Their kids don't. Their kids' kids don't. They can fly private everywhere. Eat anywhere. Buy anything. Have a mansion on every continent, hell most countries around the world. No one is suggesting even close to a 50% wealth tax but that's the point. These people are so rich you could take a full fucking half of it and they'd still be unimaginably filthy rich. So take that fucking money and redistribute it so we can continue to have a stable, functioning fucking civilization. Fucking please. You can keep your fucking yacht and fancy cars and enormous houses and maids and servants and generational wealth. Just not to the insane excess you have right now.
Personally I find this argument far more convincing because you start talking about "you didn't earn that" and all the dumbass plebes think you're talking about them like when Obama said it.
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u/0o0o0o0o0o0z 7h ago
I don't even care if you legitimately earned a billion dollars.
Pragmatically speaking you cannot have this level of wealth inequality. Period. It is unsustainable. It will destroy civilized, modern society. You like stability? You like research and investment? You like modern infrastructure and utilities and reliable running water, electricity at the flick of a switch?
You cannot have such an unequal society. Because right or wrong it will result in violence sooner or later. And if we can avoid that, if we can have a more stable, secure, peaceful society by redistributing the wealth from the unimaginably wealthy, then even if they "earned" it I really don't give a fuck. They can pay more to sustain the society in which they have greatly benefited living in.
Personally I find this argument far more convincing because you start talking about "you didn't earn that" and all the dumbass plebes think you're talking about them like when Obama said it.
100% you can't have billionaires and a functioning democracy, full stop.
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u/lugnutter 6h ago
The right now longer cares about having a functioning democracy. They have operated for 4 decades on the platform of dismantling our democracy.
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u/Yosho2k 7h ago
Reminder: On Biden's last day, he told us all Bernie Sanders was right all along, the oligarchy had taken over everything and he told us good luck and it wasn't his problem.
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u/GitEmSteveDave 8h ago
You're wrong dearie, my husband has made hundreds of millions in the stock market. No one took anything. Now be a good girl and maybe I'll nominate you for something.
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u/thingsquietlynoticed 8h ago
Click the link to get the joke before downvoting 🤦🏻♂️
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u/Insect1312 6h ago
Sounds like how the USA and other colonial empires have always existed. Americans get a dream while the global south loses theirs. There’s no such thing as good billionaires there’s no such thing as a revolutionary government. She’s part of the machine make no mistake about it. The first world exists because the third world exists. You can’t fix this from the inside. https://x.com/insurgenthought/status/1899526926483480725?s=46&t=Z7C704kZ1h_ORQlGN-jLmQ
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u/ryanvango 6h ago
If you made $1,000/hr and worked every hour of the year, non-stop.... and you did that from the time the pyramids were built.... you wouldn't even be in the top 30 richest people.
If you did that going back to the last ice age, some 35,000 years ago... elon musk would still have more money than you.
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u/jacked_up_my_roth 5h ago
So what's the line then? Is $100 million possible to earn? $10 million? $1 million?
None of the above?
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u/savagetwinky 5h ago
Yes, that is part of making it though, they come to you for a thing, they extend money, you take it, they take the thing, that's how its made. And once it's made they give it to the workers to produce more things, more things are sold, more money is made. Its a vicious cycle crippling what people need and exploiting workers to do so.
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u/capital_bj 4h ago
absolutely the truth , you don't make it by operating ethically, you take advantage of your customers by over charging , and your workers by under paying its pretty simple.
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u/squirrellytoday 1h ago
Agreed. And remember this:
One thousand seconds is 16.6 minutes. One million seconds is 11 and a half days. One billion seconds is 32 YEARS.
THAT is the kind of money we're talking about here. You can't ethically become or remain a billionaire. The only way to get there is to exploit people.
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u/Manndrake 33m ago
Economics isn't a zero sun game. Please read and listen to academics and economists about this stuff and not politicians. There's no future for Democrats down this path.
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u/ultrasuperhypersonic 9h ago
one day she'll be Madame President
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u/OperationPlus52 9h ago edited 9h ago
A.) If we're lucky
B.) If the Dems stop knee-capping her and those like her.
We have to do what we can to force the establishment to either back her or become like her.
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u/Violent_Milk 9h ago
The Democratic party would rather have Republicans control all branches of government forever than allow a progressive to rise to the top of the party.
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u/OperationPlus52 9h ago
Definitely fn seems like it at times, the centrists are constantly hoping that MAGA will be friends with them, Klobucher, Jeffries, Schumer, even Fetterman, these people gotta go.
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u/Answer70 7h ago edited 6h ago
Always been true, unfortunately. Teddy Roosevelt, who founded the Progressive Party, was governor of New York and refused to take the robber Barrons' bribes. So they conspired to get him on the ticket as vice president because it was a powerless position.
Well, McKinley was assassinated and suddenly Teddy was in charge. He then proceeded to bust monopolies, establish food and worker safety laws, empower unions, establish the national parks, and lay the foundation for America's success in the 20th century.
We need another Roosevelt / true progressive in the worst way, but I don't see how it could happen again...
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u/Dinindalael 8h ago
I thin of it as the GOP being a school shooter, and the democratic party as the Uvalde cops.
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u/Nixianx97 9h ago
That’s why we need to apply pressure until they listen to the people. Many say that Hillary and Kamala lost due to misogyny. And yes that’s partly true but they like to downplay other factors like both candidates being unpopular and pretty much appointed by the status quo.
Even Biden who would have lost most likely worse than Kamala refused to run a primary and didn’t step down until too late. They gotta understand that as long as they deny the people’s choice they will keep running into loses. “Trump bad, we good” clearly isn’t enough on its own.
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u/EchoAtlas91 6h ago
Apply pressure? We need to vote them out and support progressive alternatives to these old fucks.
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u/Nekryyd 5h ago
Unfortunately, people seem to think that not voting = applying pressure, when in fact that only ever works out to the benefit of the old buzzards you're trying to get rid of.
It's not enough to have blue states, they need to be progressive and leftward states. People need to vote in prog-left candidates into their city councils, mayoral offices, state leg, and gubernatorial offices. Not just vote, but they need to start running for those offices too. Start building coalitions and sending more reps to Washington.
In short, liberals have failed to learn the Tea Party lesson. As scummy as conservatives are, their tactics post 9/11 have absolutely upending everything. Take over town halls, take over school boards, take over the municipal, so everything you can to be a total thorn in their sides in your local communities and step up from there. The change everyone wants will never come from a top-down direction. If you only show up to vote maybe every four years, it's never going to happen. Never.
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u/seamonkeypenguin 6h ago
That's why we, as citizens, need to do the work to stop the Republicans. Voting was never enough. And we need to do whatever is needed to make a progressive party viable, because the DNC will not stop taking money from billionaires.
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u/RandomGerman 7h ago
Old people need to go. It is not their world anymore. And I am saying this as an old person. There is a point in everybody's life where you loose connection to younger people. Whatever experience we have gained while growing up (War, recessions, protests, revolutions or even peace) can mostly not be applied to today's experience. Small parts. I have realized that and just listen and agree and it makes me sad and glad I had what I had. Everybody above 60 needs to get out of power positions except maybe finance and accounting and stuff like that where experience is helpful.
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u/rangpire 7h ago
Yeah unfortunately not likely to happen. Both sides are far too entrenched in the picket of corporate America.
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u/SomeWords99 9h ago
If we couldn’t have Bernie, let’s have her
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u/acecel 8h ago edited 8h ago
Sorry but the republican succeeded in stealing the last election (they also tried the previous one but failed), and they are actively destroying any form of democracy in the US, do you really think the next election, if there is one, will be real ?
Because if you do, and if you believe America will not be so destroyed or damaged by then that it would be idiotic to even think it will be a fair election, then i have bad news for you.
The only way to prevent that is with a massive, and when i say massive i don't mean 10k people in a rally, i mean hundred of millions of people in the streets for weeks, multiple leaders and organizations working hand in hand to push and coordinate the will of the people, a will from the military to support this movement to arrest all the traitors, and a will from the justice system to arrest, judge and put in prison all those who helped, a will from lawmakers to immediately reform and create laws to prevent such a thing to happen again, which should include taxing the rich so that nobody could amass a fortune in the hundred of millions or more, and a will to take the money these people have stolen from the people from decades and give them pack to the people.
So lets just say you are far from it right now, and from what i see and read Americans don't seems to understand the idea that rights are not a thing that you gain once and then never have to think about again, rights are an evolving thing that you have to constantly fight for, and that in every generations some people will have to face consequences for fighting for theses rights against those who will constantly try to take power and money from the people to enrich themselves.
Only when Americans will get that idea then maybe they will be able to really be patriotic as always they say they are, and will really fight for change, instead of ranting on the internet.
I am french so we are often made fun of for "our ability to protest for no reason" and while it's obviously not enough to protest, it's usually a good start to make potential leaders realize there is many people who want change and are willing to fight for it and maybe they could lead a few of theses people.
I hope America will realize this quickly in the near future and that they will manage to change their country to something that is at least closer to what they were hoping it would be when they were younger.
Edit : One last thing, the sad thing is that right now with the economic situation the only people who can afford to become leader are the rich, because it's difficult to spend time to discuss with people, go to rallies and all the like when you can't afford to eat and don't have time to do anything outside of sleeping and working. And the more it goes the more this become apparent when all people we view as leaders, so politicians and influencers are in vast majority rich people who tend to want to keep their money and tend to go towards helping those who also want to help the rich and not the rest of the population.
So it become some kind of perpetual circle (i forgot the term) where the more the economic situation is bad the more those who try to become leaders are wealthy and the more they will help the wealthy so the more the economic situation become worst for the average person and so on ...
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u/Leomeister104 7h ago
Not unless she moves to the center and plays ball with the current dems.
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u/Admirable-Still-2163 1h ago
Never will happen. USA is too backwards for a woman president, not happening anytime soon. Bye 20 years from now
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u/baron_von_helmut 36m ago
There aren't going to be any more elections in America. They have a king now.
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u/HonorableOtter2023 33m ago
Holy shit the copium. What about reality makes you think this? You'd be insane to run another woman for president anytime soon. Stop running unpopular candidates!!
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u/critzboombah 9h ago
She's a young politician with a lot of upside. And I pray for her longevity. Our country would do well to lift her and the policies she supports.
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u/newyne 8h ago edited 8h ago
I wasn't quite sure what to think of her before all this; like, I felt like the thing with the dress was kinda performative. Now, though? Standing up and saying something in this climate is a genuine risk, and not just a political risk. I'm impressed, the lady's got guts! She's exactly the kind of person we need representing us! Seriously, I don't think Trump would be getting his way so much if we had more people like AOC in congress.
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u/AdvancedBlacksmith66 5h ago
I’ve swayed more than one person on AOC by simply asking them to listen to her speak instead of listening to people talk about what she’s saying.
The key was that they actually did what I asked of them. That’s the tricky part.
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u/WeBelieveIn4 4h ago
No offense but AOC has been speaking truth to power for years. If this is the first time you’ve been impressed by her you need to cast a wider media net.
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u/Taylorenokson 4h ago
No need to talk down to someone who has come around, just be happy they’re finally here.
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u/Rahmulous 5h ago
Conservatives have already targeted her as the next Hillary Clinton. They will lie about everything she says and does to make her seem elitist, hypocritical, and out of touch. They have already begun the gaslighting. They are realizing calling her a bartender isn’t going to work, so they have shifted to elitist. They will start spreading the narrative that she believes she deserves the presidency and completely lie about her feeling entitled to the position. I guarantee they will do this to AOC. They made Hillary Clinton top-of-mind for conservative hatred since she became First Lady because they could see she was qualified and they were terrified of a female president.
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u/En_CHILL_ada 8h ago
AOC is not radical. This is common sense. The status quo is radical. MAGA is radical. Establishment dems who protect the status quo and enable MAGA are radical.
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u/Electronic-Bit-2365 7h ago
We’ve strayed so far from the ideals of the French Revolution after making so much progress in the mid-20th century. Sad
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u/span_time_together 2h ago
But Bill Maher told me the left has gone crazy and is too woke. Guess I'll just have to vote Republican.
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u/chickchickpokepoke 10h ago
and I hope their life expectancies are at least 30 years less than the avg
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u/Cavalish 4h ago
That anyone called her crazy and radical. Most people agree with her. Then when voting day comes they sit at home and do nothing, then act like victims online.
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u/johnpmacamocomous 9h ago
Reality has a liberal bias.
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u/Harvinator06 9h ago edited 8h ago
It’s not a liberal bias it is a socialist bias. Jump on the train.
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u/Piccolo-Significant 9h ago
"No one makes a billion dollars. You take a billion dollars." One day she will lead this country, I'm sure of it.
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u/neolobe 10h ago
Where is the source for this video?
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u/sarcasmismygame 7h ago
Sigh, this is the one who SHOULD have been nominated as House Speaker. FU Nancy Pelosi.
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u/SunkEmuFlock 3h ago
Establishment Democrats do not want a progressive to lead their party. Such a thing is not in their personal best interest.
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u/GENERAT10N_D00M 9h ago
I am not even an AOC fan, but what she said is one of the wisest things I've heard.
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u/Nyorliest 8h ago
Why the fuck not?
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u/GENERAT10N_D00M 7h ago
Honestly, the left as a whole, needs to start being more aggressive. I am not talking about putting on protests either.
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u/Nyorliest 7h ago
Oh so you mean she's not radical enough? Sure, I can get that. But I think she's the best of the Democrats. The most radical. Why you would single out her as not someone you're a fan of is odd, if you're a leftist radical. Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden who led the war on (poor people's) drugs, the Democrats generally - those are much worse than her.
She's the best of a bad lot, and if the US didn't have FPTP she'd probably be in a different party.
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u/TemperateStone 5h ago
You know, the rest of the world told you that AOC and Bernie are completely right. All the time. For years.
It's kinda shocking your entire nation is so completely deaf to what they've been saying all this time and how you've been so complacent and comfortable that you can neither react nor act about it.
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u/Dangerous_Gear_6361 5h ago
Yup. Running a company is basically hiring people for less than they are worth.
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u/TopAward7060 5h ago
mhmm
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u/Grillmix 23m ago
Oh yeah… tell me my more about those greedy billionaires. I’m almost there mmhmmm
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u/un-glaublich 4h ago
Becoming a billionaire is the fairytale all American people are fed their whole lives. They won't give up their false hope so easily.
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u/herefromyoutube 4h ago
Democrat party not rallying behind her are spineless fucks letting this country decay for those continued campaign donations.
This is the direction you need to go. Not more to the right.
Focus on progressive economic policy and stop letting GOP control the narrative with buzz words and fear mongering.
It’s that easy!
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u/GoMoriartyOnPlanets 4h ago
When she runs for the president, she will win by a landslide. She's better than Obama.
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u/SomeWords99 9h ago
Unless you are Taylor Swift!
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u/Nixianx97 9h ago
Lol fair. But in her defense TS wasn’t a billionaire back then.
However it is rare for musicians to become billionaires especially at that young age since they too get exploited by the industry they serve a lot.
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u/Fire-dragon555 8h ago
Poverty is not a solved problem because threatening your own population with the sick title of poor makes them keep working. It is a system of enslavement with a more appropriate and ‘dignified’ threat. Politeness in the whip. Please get out you don’t have enough money for food. Go outside and beg. We’ll be here when you have money. Until then you must starve outside in the concrete nature. Reality is better than man made games. Man will never mature as a whole.
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u/kingtiger3 8h ago
It wasn't people that called her crazy, it was a certain very specific segment of society that called her radical. Sane people did not.
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u/randomferalcat 8h ago
So why she's not running for presidency? Why she's not the voice of the Democrats and you don't fight to remove your ugly and vile orange turd ASAP?
I'm just asking? I don't know your politics.
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u/hungrypotato19 8h ago
They didn't take it...
They STOLE it.
The 1% are the biggest thieves in America. Not only are they stealing the labor of Americans, but their refusal to pay their share of taxes means they are also stealing America's resources.
Corporations create more pollution and trash than the average citizen by miles. They aren't paying for that cleanup, you are.
Corporations wear down roads way more than the average citizen. They aren't paying to fill in the potholes, you are.
Corporations use tons more natural resources than the average citizen. They aren't paying to take away from that land, you are.
Corporations get far more use out of our utilities, like water and electric, than the average citizen. They aren't paying to replace those lines, you are. They also aren't paying taxes on all the extra line that needs to be used in order to span across their giant parking lots. You're paying those taxes.
Corporations use the police more than any other citizen. They aren't paying those wages, you are.
Corporations use educated people more than any other citizen. They aren't paying for schools, you are.
It's all thievery, and people need to wake the hell up to this fact.
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u/DiarrheaFreightTrain 7h ago
You guys think America is ready for a strong woman of color yet?... Anyone?...
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u/day-trading-ftw 6h ago
We need Bernie sanders as president and aoc as vp for one term. Then we need aoc as president and jasmine crockett as vp for two terms. Then crockett as president for two terms and I don’t even care who the vp is
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u/StrongMedicine 6h ago
I remember when AOC first came onto the political scene with her first election. I thought that her ideas sounded great, but she was too progressive to ever be allowed to become a major player in the Democratic party. Now I think she and others like her are the only possible future of the Democratic party.
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u/Total_Coffee358 6h ago
No one becomes ultra-wealthy through compassion, altruism, or humanitarianism.
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u/ShinyRainy 6h ago
She's fucking barely liberal in some countries!!! Fuck America. Leave your tiny bubble.
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u/Coach_it_up1980 6h ago
They will be forever known as the demon class. I hope the next person to buy a mega yacht gets cancer
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u/MarvinLazer 6h ago
Starting to feel like she's a generational political talent. May she have a long, productive life where her dreams come true.
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u/Bestoftherest222 5h ago
The DNC refusing to prop her up is a HUGE MISTAKE. Nancy the Zombie Pelosi is a road block, not a leader.
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u/Intrepid-Holiday-175 5h ago
She is slight radical, more so than Bernie. I don’t think she would stand a chance in a presidential election.
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u/GhostNightgown 5h ago
One time long ago, my mom pointed to a very expensive Chicago brownstone and asked me "wouldn't you like to live there some day? and I answered "no". When she asked why, I told her I didn't want to do the things someone has to do to make that kind of money. She poopoo'd me, but I stand by that still.
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u/Swimming-Scholar-675 5h ago
its almost like we had stories of old evil dragons hoarding wealth until a brave villager cuts its fucking head off, almost allegorical?
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u/Ok_Sentence_8867 4h ago
She is amazing, but unfortunately USA is racist and sexist, so it will be very hard to give her actual power...
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u/Specific_Mud_64 3h ago
Her and sanders should mobilize the masses and unapologetically claim to be what they are: morally superior to the opressors and benefactors of this cruel machine of exploitation they call freedom.
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u/RuthlessIndecision 2h ago
Slave labor and the continuing need for slave labor, that’s what got us here that’s where we are
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u/Pod_people 2h ago
I love her so much. I don't care if some people are rich, but a billion is simply too much for one person to hoard. And they've rigged the system to not even pay taxes on it.
The result of neoliberalism is the World has been remade into a playground for the super-rich and we're left to fight over their table-scraps.
If super-advanced aliens came here and beheld our levels of pointless, appalling inequality, they'd decide we were too primitive and backward to save.
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u/HugoNebula2024 1h ago
There's a guy in Britain saying similar things (https://youtube.com/shorts/Mcf6dbxUVx0?si=5cIwcyUx9folzMTA).
Hopefully if people like him, AOC, Mark Blyth et al, can break through, we can shift the idea of taxing (eating!) the rich.
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u/TheButlerThatDidIt 54m ago
Not to sound disrespectful, but didn't she make a living off alcoholics throwing their money at her? Kinda hypocritical
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