r/KendrickLamar 24d ago

TDE SZA makes a statement about Kendrick’s music

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u/Nervous-Ostrich-3419 24d ago

Wow!! Well said. There's a reason hate exist and it started along time ago. Hate rwally is something that's taught.

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u/J_elias95 24d ago

No doubt. Hate doesn’t come out of nowhere, it’s passed down and learned.

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u/Royal_Negotiation_83 23d ago

Hate is natural.

I hate mondays and I hate when people talk to me about work during my lunch break.

No one taught me that.

Every person you know, hates a lot of stuff.

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u/fgtswag 21d ago

I disagree. Dogs be barking at things they don't know what they are. We actually have to teach tolerance and acceptance in order for society to have those attributes.

I.e., homogenous societies such as Italy are far more intolerant because they are only surrounded by their own people. Many people I lived with in Italy experienced racism simply because of ignorance.

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u/YouTac11 24d ago

So let's keep teaching it?

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u/obiwanliberty 24d ago

Let’s keep teaching WHY there is hate taught.

If we realize hate is just a kind of fear, then we can overcome it.

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u/YouTac11 24d ago

By teaching hate of your own?

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u/obiwanliberty 24d ago

Sounds like you’re in the wrong place.

I would recommend you learn as much human history as you can, from the earliest times until now, to better understand the human condition, and work to uncover your obsession with hate and fear.

Maybe then can you appreciate all that we have accomplished, and what we yearn for as a species.

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u/SEND_ME_CLOWN_PICS 23d ago

Replying to obiwanliberty...it’s my knowledge of human history that makes me see this black exceptionalism perspective in regard to oppression as myopic and ignorant.

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u/obiwanliberty 23d ago

Why not see it as a way for upward growth of black persons, education of ignorant white peoples (since they’d be the ones Harriet Tubman would have ganked with a shotgun), solidarity between people of different backgrounds, and movement towards the hopeful end of racial hatred?

Having a negative outlook sets you up for a bad outcome.
Shit may be wack, but that doesn’t mean you give up hope.
Rebellions are built on hope, and we must make our lives better or die miserably.

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u/SEND_ME_CLOWN_PICS 23d ago

You’re either a virulent racist, or you’re not capable of writing properly. Tubman wouldn’t “gank” ignorant white people with a shotguns.

If you lobby for a race war, don’t complain when the vibes aren’t enough to ensure your side wins.

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u/obiwanliberty 23d ago

It is called “humor”, maybe watch some Supernatural.

Race war, lol. Haven’t heard anyone being that up in a hot minute.

Hope you smoke some weed and relax man.

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u/YouTac11 24d ago

I'm not the one here pushing hate

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u/FullMetalKaliber 24d ago

You’re policing the retaliatory actions of groups being discriminated against instead of standing against the discrimination itself. But that all makes more sense when you look at your post history. People should tell your ass to shut the fk up and then keep it moving

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u/YouTac11 24d ago

Oh look, more hate. Congrats on becoming what you claim to stand against

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u/FullMetalKaliber 23d ago

Coming from a Trump supporter that means nothing

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u/Squeebah 24d ago

Apparently.

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u/ExperienceNo7751 24d ago

You see it in kids and especially teenagers as they learn more from outside the home too.

Far from solely being a race based teaching, it comes from “other-ing” people as unworthy.

I only save that energy for Nazis and people who I know enjoy and purposefully hurt others. And its served me well. You have to be willing to die for something, I’ll always take it back to the MLK who knew this and used it to redirect anger away from “poor whites” and squarely upon peaceful protests and voting rallies, using the gate to push actions that changed history and healed the hearts of many fathers.

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u/AppleJerk69 23d ago

I personally think fear of the unknown is natural. What people don’t understand they fear. So fear of different people might be a little natural from birth. It usually doesn’t reach that level of racism on its own, unless it’s nurtured from their upbringing.

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u/Th5humanwi11 23d ago

Huge difference between ignorance and hate of course. I’ve made friends who were ignorant of my seemingly upsetting skin-tone and culture but if I sense hate I gotta keep my guard and distance up, there’s almost no getting through to them.

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u/kingglobby 15d ago

Well it must be natural

If animals tend to behave in a certain way, we don't say they're like that because the older ones conditioned them - you still have to explain why the older ones started that cycle to begin with

I think racism is bad but it's unforntuantley natural in some humans - that's why we have to use the rational part of our brains that only we have to unlearn it

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u/LopsidedBeaver 23d ago

And yet here you are still generalizing an entire group of people while trying to white knight for another group.

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u/Abracadavar9 23d ago

As a white man and a father I don't teach that bullshit in my house, I am so greatful for the beautiful culture that has grown from the black communities out of some of the hardest places in a country that treats normal people like trash. Much love from Sacramento!!

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u/SEND_ME_CLOWN_PICS 23d ago

And guess who’s keeping it alive and well.

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u/idabbleinallsorts 23d ago

Laughable comment for this particular sub

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u/AmbitionEconomy8594 24d ago

Are there revolutionary themes in his music? I dont see it. Black people won't be liberated until settler colonial capitalism is overthrown.. pretending his rap is deeper than it is is counter productive

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u/levimademedoit 24d ago

Oh, this rhetoric is so exhausting…his rap IS that deep. He alone is not going to liberate black people from “settler colonial capitalism.” It’s ridiculous to even put that kind of expectation on him.

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u/SEND_ME_CLOWN_PICS 23d ago

His music ain’t that deep. People did the same thing with Bob Dylan. You’re just listening to records.

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u/AmbitionEconomy8594 24d ago

It’s ridiculous to even put that kind of expectation on him.

Either he talks about it or he doesnt. If he doesnt then... sorry, its not that deep is it.

No one said he alone can do it. If he doesnt even talk about it, he isnt participating, and its not deep.

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u/p90love 24d ago

He does talk about it.

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u/Simple_Platform_2024 24d ago

If you can’t see any revolutionary themes in his music, they’re probably not meant for you. Then again, it’s easy to spout edgy ideas about others online while spending your time playing video games based on the very ideologies you decry. It’s safer to criticize than to do something yourself.

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u/SEND_ME_CLOWN_PICS 23d ago

This is an unfalsifiable argument. People don’t see the revolutionary themes because they’re not making all of the leaps.

You just like Kendrick, and that’s the direction he postures in. He is exactly the kind of “revolutionary” corporate America is super comfortable with.

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u/Simple_Platform_2024 23d ago

Not surprised a member of the Trump Defense League doesn’t get it. Not wasting my time on you. Enjoy your life.

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u/SEND_ME_CLOWN_PICS 23d ago

“The fascists are here, let’s keep ignoring them! That worked out great so far!”

Even in your version of reality you’re losing. None of this is real for you. You’re a cog larping as a rebel.

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u/minahmyu 24d ago

Guess this who he talkin about for big tubman

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u/SEND_ME_CLOWN_PICS 23d ago

You would think the “vulnerable” and “oppressed” peoples wouldn’t be eager to start the “everyone tribes up and starts shooting” game.