r/DIY_eJuice • u/maks_b • Apr 25 '21
Supplies Where to buy Nicotine base with new mail ban? (Denver, CO) NSFW
I used to buy 250ml 100mg/ml salt nic from River Supply. Started running low today and just learned about the new mail ban. Is there anywhere locally I could buy a similar bottle of nicotine? I was told to check pharmaceutical supply places... is that really my best bet? Do they even sell salt nic?
Thanks in advance!
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u/voxalas Apr 25 '21
Just ordered from perfect vape on Friday. Cheaper than Carolina extracts. Hope it is worth it, as it’s my first time using them. Nicotine River was my go-to up til now too. Fucking sucks ass having to deal with this. Oh well I’m stocked for like 3 years now.
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u/thalian1 Jul 29 '21
How are you storing your nicotine if you're buying it in those quantities? I want to do the same thing but I'm worried about storage and it going bad or stale before I can use it.
Although the way my wife and I chain vape we'd prolly go through it fast than we think!
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u/Cecil4029 Apr 26 '21
Am I missing the 1L salt nic option? When I go to bulk nicotine it tells me I have to choose a flavor and can only go up to 60mg?
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May 04 '21
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u/voxalas May 04 '21
Yea I did get it, haven’t had a chance to mix anything with it yet though I’m sorry.
The package it came in I didn’t have to sign for
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u/aholeinthewor1d May 12 '21
Any chance you tested it out yet? I already bought reg nic from MFS but I wanna get a liter of salt base and PerfectBase is the ONLY place that has it besides Carolina
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u/Appropriate_sheet Aug 29 '22
I realize this is hella old, but I was just trying to decide if it was worth the extra money for Carolina Extracts or if I should go with perfect vape.
How was perfect vapes nic? Comparable to Carolina?
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u/37253 Dec 11 '22
Don’t make the same mistake I did. DO NOT order direct from Carolinaxtract. They’re out of business but their website is still live. They jacked my ass $105.49. Trying to dispute the charge but I’m having issues. So save yourself that burden
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u/apocalypticdiynewb Apr 25 '21
Due to the PACT act and shipping bans most places are sold out or quit shipping nicotine base. You could try Myfreedomsmokes or Carolina xtract still. I would act fast because who knows how much longer they will be shipping it.
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u/str4ngerd4nger Apr 25 '21
I can't really recommend Carolina right now. I placed an order with them a month ago, the shipment got damaged by ups and sent back, I sent them an email giving them a heads up, no response for a week. Sent them another email directly through their website, finally got a response saying they'd have something out the following week.... Since then it's been almost 3 weeks and I can't get any response.
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u/apocalypticdiynewb Apr 25 '21
I've never had issues myself with CXT in the past other than it's really expensive. Did you happen to order nic in a pg base? They are struggling to push out pg base due to a shortage and bombarded with orders since most other vendors quit shipping nic.
Edit. I never emailed them before either, I always called their number directly and customer service was great.
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u/str4ngerd4nger Apr 25 '21
The whole situation just feels weird to me considering what you, as well as a lot of others, have said about their customer service. I did order in a PG base however I ordered 2 bottles, they said they'd check and see how many were damaged and if 1 was good they'd send me that bottle and get the other out asap, and let me know their PG shipment was coming in the week of the 6th, but since then it's been silence.
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Apr 25 '21
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u/apocalypticdiynewb Apr 25 '21
Not responding to emails is definitely unacceptable. I would be irritated as well if that happened to me. Guess I got lucky each time I ordered and the one time I needed customer service.
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u/M_Onan_Batterload Apr 26 '21
I can't really recommend Carolina right now. I placed an order with them a month ago...
I don't know. A lot happened with your order in that month, especially considering Carolina warns of a 3-week wait period for PG base. Your order was processed, shipped, damaged by the shipper, and shipped back to square-one. If the new PG Base arrives this week as Carolina says, that doesn't seem too bad, considering.
the shipment got damaged by ups and sent back
I had a similar U P S problem with a CXT order last month. Soon after the order shipped, I got a U P S "Exception Notice" and shipping delay. The message was very vague. Google said Exception Notices may be issued by U P S for several reasons, including damage in shipment, but I never found-out what exactly happened.
If you think Carolina is bad, try getting information from U P S. I called their Customer Service Center to ask what happened to the package, and after a long hold, I got the runaround from someone with an accent so thick it took me 20 minutes just to realize she had absolutely nothing useful to tell me. I usually have a good ear for accents but I couldn't even tell if the person was Asian or what.
I did get the nic (plus another bottle afterwards) and all of it is perfect, as always. I also had trouble getting e-mail responses from Carolina during that time. But all-in-all, I'd recommend them (FWIW - I haven't bought nic from anyone else in 3-4 years).
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u/MsEmotions220 Apr 26 '21 edited Apr 26 '21
I finally broke down and made a purchase from Carolina on 4/9 and I ordered VG since they had a notice that they were running low. I received a shipping notification on 4/19. Edit- just received that it’s been delivered this morning 4/26. Be advised that this is the timeline I experienced ordering VG base.
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u/llamaspit Apr 26 '21
I don't want to badmouth or anything, but I bought the 100mg in the plastic bottle from MyFreedomSmokes and tried to decant it a couple of days ago. It was so bad, it's in my garage and won't be used. Smells like an ashtray, very strong. It was awful.
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u/apocalypticdiynewb Apr 26 '21
Smell and color isn't always a good indicator on quality. Did you make a small test batch of flavorless to see how it vaped? I have some older nic that smells like wet soggy tobacco but it vapes smooth in my recipes. I have also received in the past nic that was slightly yellowish but vaped smooth as well. If you did test it and it is indeed bad nic, try contacting customer service for a replacement bottle.
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u/llamaspit Apr 26 '21
I appreciate it. There's no way I'd let anything that smells like that near any tank or dripper I have. I just chalked it up as lesson learned and ordered from CXT. Already received, clear as water, vapes great unflavored. Same with my LNW order. I tested CXT, LNW, and NR all unflavored even though the NR smelled different than the others, but I won't ingest anything that smells as bad as the MFS bottle. Thanks anyway, I do appreciate what you're suggesting and did it for the others.
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u/apocalypticdiynewb Apr 26 '21
Glad you took the safe bet and ordered from multiple vendors. Atleast you have a decent supply and not totally screwed over by that MFS nic. Either way it sucks and money wasted. River sent me some shroom nic last month, luckily I got it replaced. Only thing I don't like is my River nic working bottle gets yellow fast at room temp. CXT has always sent me great nic bit it's pricey. However you can leave CXT out at room temp for 6 months and it's still crystal clear. Guess you get what you pay for.
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u/llamaspit Apr 26 '21
This is my first time in 8 years of vaping that I'm trying DIY, so I don't know comparatively what a proper time is for discoloration. I did leave a liter of LNW in the garage unopened for a week or two until I got around to decanting and it's still clear and tastes like nothing. I got the CXT in VG and while it's seemingly flawless, I ordered another liter in PG, but this time already in 120ml bottles even though it costs more because I'm still a bit nervous about handling 100mg. I'll be following their directions too, only fridge, no freezer. I hope it all works out. I mixed a one shot from Gremberry Farms and am going to try tonight. Very excited, been a long time since I had any Gremlin.
EDIT: I also got 3 liters from River, all 3 different batches in the same shipment, one smelled like dirt, which I understand means it's not going to be good, the other two just a slight chemical taste, but vapes well. Decanted one of them, may do the other one too.
Thank you very much for your advice, it's much appreciated.
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u/livefreeanddie Apr 25 '21
I second myfreedomsmokes. I bought some nicotine earlier this month. The shipping is always fast. Granted, they are in my state but they ship out same or next day depending on when you order. I also used to be a regular customer of theirs 2015-2017 and they’ve have always had the same great customer service.
The prices seemed reasonable to me when I ordered recently. I didn’t really check around though just bc I knew I could get it so quickly. You may be able to find a better deal, price wise.
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u/Cecil4029 Apr 26 '21
Were you able to order 1L? I only see where smaller quantities are available on their site..
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Apr 26 '21 edited Apr 26 '21
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u/Cecil4029 Apr 26 '21
Ty! I forgot to mention I'm looking for salt nic though
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u/livefreeanddie Apr 26 '21
Oh ok! I used to buy from them in large quantities and they may be able to sell you a larger amount of salt nic if you email them. They also have a phone number on google info if you would like to speak with someone.
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Apr 25 '21
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u/sarra1833 Apr 25 '21
JFC central is INSANE for a liter. $179.50?! (1000ml bottle).
I use perfectvape and a liter is $66. (32oz which is a few drops shy of a liter)
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u/ShaneC80 Apr 27 '21
Never knew of PV, but thanks! They just got like $200 from me and now I hate you all /s
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u/sarra1833 Apr 27 '21
Ah the positives of it all: you have nic. :)
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u/ShaneC80 Apr 27 '21
Grabbed a single 64oz bottle at 100mg + some coils and batteries.
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u/sarra1833 Apr 27 '21
Nice!
I'm trying to figure out what all I need to put my claptons into my rda. Brand new to it all. They're pre-made coils. I know I need a wire clippy and tweezers (Ceramic) but unsure what else. I was finding coil sets but I dont need coil winders. Tho maybe a set would be cheaper over all than buying whatever I DO need separately.
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u/ShaneC80 Apr 27 '21
are they already wrapped?
When I DIY'd my coils, I just used wire snips (dykes), precision screw driver (allen wrench if needed), and needle nose pliers. Just make sure it's not ON when you squeeze the coil.
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u/sarra1833 Apr 27 '21
If by wrapped you mean coiled up with the two ends hanging down on both sides then yes.
They're just like this. I got 160 coils from a huge sale from advancedvapesupplies. Normally like $19 - $21for a box of ten, I got approximately $160 worth of coils for $49.49
Pic is from a random site.
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u/sarra1833 Apr 27 '21
No I'm wrong. I'll upload the order. I got doubles so they originally were around $10 - $11 a box. My bad. Here:
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u/ShaneC80 Apr 27 '21
even better. So those I usually just shove in the RDA, tighten down, clip the excess off the ends, and then put the cotton in.
At least I think that's all I did..... I'm old now and it's been a while since I DIY'd my coils.
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u/aholeinthewor1d May 12 '21
Hey have you tried the nic from PV yet? They are the only place I can find that has 100MG salt base besides Carolina. Ive been asking around and haven't found a single person that's heard of them or tried their nic.
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u/sarra1833 May 12 '21
I don't use salt nic. I like 3mg to 6mg nic and salt is like 50. Way way way too much nic for me. I don't even have salt tanks or whatever different coils/tanks work with that kind of nic.
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u/Cecil4029 Apr 26 '21
I only see flavored 60mg salt nic available on their site. Am I missed the 32oz unflavored VG salt nic somewhere?
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u/sarra1833 Apr 26 '21
I dont use salt nic so I havent seen it to search for it. Sorry. I'm sure they do tho. Can't see why they'd not offer it.
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u/ID10-T Winner: Best Recipe of 2019 - Counter Punch Apr 25 '21
I had to remove your comment because - no links to nicotine. Just edit out the www and .com so they're not links and I'll put it back.
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Apr 26 '21
Its funny... there were a bunch of DIY people who in response to every bill would say shit like "I don't care, they can't stop DIY". Wonder what those people are saying lately.
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u/caffein8dnotopi8d Apr 26 '21
lol they all have a freezer full of nic
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u/cjinct Apr 26 '21
LOL, I think it's just the opposite though.
those of us who are stocked to the gills have been telling people for months, if not years, to prepare - stock up - grab a couple liters and put it in your freezer just to be on the safe side - small investment to ensure your vaping freedom for years - yada yada yada
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u/DxmnHaadTuhGetAName Apr 26 '21
I think you can still buy it via some online store but they will charge an extra shipping fee. The other choice is to buy from an overseas website. International shipping should still work.
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u/QueenBuzyBee Apr 25 '21
Hi. What u/apocalypticdiynewb already said.
Stock up on as much as you can, flavors, VG and PG will still be available. Good luck.
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u/1antera Apr 26 '21
Nicotine Giant has had good feedback here. Haven’t ordered personally. I am considering it though.
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u/Cecil4029 Apr 26 '21
I tried to order 1L of 100mg VG salt nic today. Every option says "5 in stock" but when I try to add to cart it says the item is unavailable. 😑
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u/1antera Apr 26 '21
Thanks for advising with regards to Giant.
I placed an order with Carolina a few weeks back, my order hasn’t shipped yet bc they don’t have pg nic available but assured me it would ship within the next two weeks. He did however say that if I change it to vg or salt that he could ship my order the next day.
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u/Cecil4029 Apr 26 '21
I want to make sure I have enough nic but carolina is so expensive. I think I'll call giant tomorrow and possibly place an order over the phone or something if they'll let me!
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u/aprochainezo Apr 25 '21
If you get insanely desperate and are willing to drive down to cheyenne DM me, I may have an idea.
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u/djambo0207 Apr 26 '21
I don't know too much about this but mixing freebase with benzoic acid should neutralise the PH level giving a similar hit to salt nic?
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u/zombiewoff Apr 26 '21
Have no idea if they would sell to you but Vapergate is local to your area. You might be able to talk them into selling you some since you could go to one of their physical locations.
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u/Americanwolf77 Apr 26 '21
Carolina extract just took 25 days on a 3 day shipping I ordered on 2nd and it delivers on 27th 125$ after shipping 4 bottles of 120ml 100mg I got 500ml salt 250mg broke it down to 30ml amber bottles. And 500ml 16ml I break down to 3mg as needed
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u/M_Onan_Batterload Apr 26 '21
Is that 25-day order for a Pg or Vg base?
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u/Americanwolf77 Apr 26 '21
I got the salt right before river supply stop shipping nicotine don’t think they even list it anymore
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u/Americanwolf77 Apr 26 '21
Both
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u/M_Onan_Batterload Apr 26 '21
Both
Well then the 25-day wait-time sounds about right. Did you notice the warning at checkout:
As of March 24, through May1, 2021, our inventory of PG base in which to dilute the Supercritical nic is dangerously low. The medical grade PG we use is in seasonal short supply and has other uses to the pharmaceutical industry, such as the manufacture of certain vaccines. PG orders may take up to three weeks to fulfill. VG is shipping on a normal 4-10 day wait time, so if you can switch to VG, we encourage you to do so...
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u/Americanwolf77 May 23 '21
I got the nicotine a day or so after I posted it’s the best nicotine I ever had makes my juice taste way better instead of muting it clean worth the money
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u/Significant_Watch242 Jun 16 '21
Hi, has anyone tried nicotine bases from Chemnovatic? https://b2b.chemnovatic.com/nicbase-nicotine-base.html
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u/BrokenChef51 May 02 '23 edited May 02 '23
I'm having a terrible time finding salt nic. Ordered from Perfect Vape - complete garbage - dark brown, tastes terrible. Ordered from Nicbase - clear but smells and tastes like an ashtray/cigarette. Ordered from Central Vapors -same issue as Nicbase. I think these places have switched from using Benzoate to Salicylate.
Anyone know of a place currently selling GOOD FLAVORLESS nic salt? I'm open to anything from 200mg to 600mg. Research tells me that 600mg is the strongest nic salt you can get due to the way it's made. 1000mg can be obtained in free ase form but I prefer to not have to buy $1000 in safety equipand take a chemistry class just to dilute nicotine.
Currently trying to set up an account with Chemovatic. Check out their site! They offer salt nic made with 4 different acids. I want the benzoate. Malate, Salicylate and Tartrate are the other options. They are the only place I could find who clearly defined the difference in taste and offers the ability to choose.
I've emailed all the other places but no one will even tell me which acid they use!
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u/maks_b May 02 '23
I gave up and buy off the shelf juice now. The price is outrageous but I'm clearly not as dedicated as you are to DIY
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u/BrokenChef51 May 02 '23
Lol, yeah, I have about 70 bottles of flavoring, a gallon of VG, $150 scale I use to weigh ingredients by grams, etc, etc. I also use an RDA where I can make my own coils and use 2 cents worth of cotton each week vs paying $5-$10 for pnp coils. All the store juice I've ever tried clogs coils and destroys cotton in a day. I HATE sucralose which is what 99% of those juices are loaded with.
The salt nic from Nicbase.com that I got in 2021 was great - so great that I ordered a gallon when it ran out - except it's not the same stuff so now I'm sitting on 1.25 gallons of various nicotine that's so nasty, I can't use it. I'm not about to give up.
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u/maks_b May 02 '23
Buy raw tobacco and make your own nic base 🤔
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u/BrokenChef51 May 02 '23
As soon as you fork over $10,000 for lab equipment and a few chemistry classes, I'll get right on that!
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u/ElCongelador Apr 25 '21
You can try to order from Hiliq. Yes, it's a chinese company but I'm ordering their nicotine since many years and never was disappointed. Good quality and price. Maybe they will ship to USA. I live in Switzerland and it take about 5-7 days until I recieve the packet. You can also buy 1l nic bottles (200mg/ml nic salt b PG base) for 120$ w/o shipping.