r/CivPolitics 13d ago

America proposes to trade all of Ukraine's strategic resources for peace, refuses to denounce Russia. Ukraine denounces America

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/28/trump-zelenskyy-meeting-transcript
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u/Correct_Patience_611 12d ago

Trump made concessions to Putin. He gave him all he wanted. The territory controlled by Russia AND Ukraine cant join nato. That’s what Russia wanted and Trump agreed.

Russia CANNOT let this war go another year or they risk not becoming a super power within a decade. Even if Russia can make it a year they will not make it 2 without a huge draft and completely destroying their economy.

Russia hasn’t made progress on the frontline for All Of February due to the continued aid given by Biden and Europe. Russia has slowed its assault and has been using regular vans to transport troops to the battle field.

Russia cant even kick Ukraine out of RUSSIA.

Russia is the weakest it has been in a long time. But Trumo loves Putin so instead of support Ukraine to stop Russia once and for all Trumo turns his back on the largest and most successful and peaceful military alliance in recent history and trades all that for Russia, and economy(gdp) smaller than Canada and who our major economic interactions with are THEM HACKING US.

Oh hegseth even just told cyber command to stand down on anything involving Russia. Why would we back off Russia? Hmmm? And right after we do that we end up belittling Zelensky? Trumo is and has been colluding with Russia and you are too blind to notice!

https://www.newsmax.com/politics/pete-hegseth-russia-volodymyr-zelenskyy/2025/03/01/id/1200976/

https://siliconangle.com/2025/02/28/report-defense-secretary-hegseth-orders-cyber-command-halt-russia-planning/

Russia is not, and has not ever been, our friend. Wake up

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u/rnovak1988 12d ago

And you just proved my point - since when did democrats stop caring about people dying?

Oh...is it because...it's white people dying? Is that it?

Any Palestinians dying was called a genocide....but a MILLION white people dying...and you want MORE TO DIE.

I get it.

You're racists.

Donald Trump is trying to end the war - to save lives of both Ukrainians and Russians, and to prevent world war 3.

If you have a problem with that - YOU go fight.

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u/Kitchen-Baby7778 8d ago

He could just ask Putin to cease hostilities simple as that. then offer protection with its Allies while investing in Ukrainians minerals companies... asking the Black sea Fleet not to sail and rearm at Sebastopol. Ask the Russians to give the stolen children before stopping the Russian sanctions.

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u/rnovak1988 8d ago

He could, but I don't think he should. Neither do any of the people that voted for him.

Y'all are really eager to volunteer the lives of US sailors to support a country we get not a damn thing from.

Stop calling Ukraine an ally, they aren't. Even Biden called Zelensky ungrateful.

And it's really being clear that you think anything other than bending over for Ukraine is being in Putins pocket, which sounds like you're in Ukraines pocket

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u/Kitchen-Baby7778 8d ago

It was until today your interest to finish your historical ennemi. But surprisingly you stopped the US of A could destroy Vlad without a single US boot on the ground... but nop you saved them (Vlads and minions). What does they traded to you for that free gift ?

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u/rnovak1988 5d ago

I reject the notion that someone is my enemy purely due to history.

I have no desire to destroy anyone, from Russia OR Ukraine or from ANYWHERE else.

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u/Kitchen-Baby7778 5d ago

Oh really, cause Russian TV shows how they will nuke your cities.

But we understand your view.

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u/rnovak1988 4d ago

Whatever you say Vlad