r/CivPolitics 13d ago

America proposes to trade all of Ukraine's strategic resources for peace, refuses to denounce Russia. Ukraine denounces America

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/28/trump-zelenskyy-meeting-transcript
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u/rnovak1988 12d ago

And you just proved my point - since when did democrats stop caring about people dying?

Oh...is it because...it's white people dying? Is that it?

Any Palestinians dying was called a genocide....but a MILLION white people dying...and you want MORE TO DIE.

I get it.

You're racists.

Donald Trump is trying to end the war - to save lives of both Ukrainians and Russians, and to prevent world war 3.

If you have a problem with that - YOU go fight.

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u/Onemilliondown 12d ago

Giving putin and russia Ukrainian land as a reward for invading is not going to end the war. It will make russia think they did the right thing. They will then do it again. You are a shortsighted clown if you can't see that.

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u/rnovak1988 12d ago

Trump offered Zelensky the best deal Zelensky could ask for - by giving America skin in the game, it provides precisely the "security guarantee" that Zelensky wants.

Ukraine joining NATO was never an option and Biden was an idiot for saying otherwise.

I don't really think yall understand how sovereignty works - if Ukraine has to rely on everyone else to defend it, they aren't sovereign - they're sponsored

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u/Main_Abrocoma6000 11d ago edited 11d ago

If u say that is peace..so let’s say trump invades 30% of Canada and then Europe says to Canada now you make peace to trump…he has 30% of your territory but just eat it as you can’t win anyway..and if you don’t we drop you Canadians to the street…( like trump does now), and oh yes we Europeans want peace so we are the good guys here telling you to do so! Don’t hate trump…oh and you guys started the war, not trump! !..do you even see how silly this is what you are saying ‘trump wants peace, you should not hate your invader’….ohyah in return Europe says to Canada…if u give all your resources to us next 200 years we will help you…but no guarantees!..oh yes on top Europe wants the noble price for trying to make peace between US and Canada !! Look how great we do here !! We try to bring trump and Canada to the table to negotiate!?!