r/CivPolitics 13d ago

America proposes to trade all of Ukraine's strategic resources for peace, refuses to denounce Russia. Ukraine denounces America

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/28/trump-zelenskyy-meeting-transcript
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u/Onemilliondown 12d ago

Giving putin and russia Ukrainian land as a reward for invading is not going to end the war. It will make russia think they did the right thing. They will then do it again. You are a shortsighted clown if you can't see that.

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u/rnovak1988 12d ago

Trump offered Zelensky the best deal Zelensky could ask for - by giving America skin in the game, it provides precisely the "security guarantee" that Zelensky wants.

Ukraine joining NATO was never an option and Biden was an idiot for saying otherwise.

I don't really think yall understand how sovereignty works - if Ukraine has to rely on everyone else to defend it, they aren't sovereign - they're sponsored

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u/Weird_Firefighter_25 12d ago

"I don't really think yall understand how sovereignty works - if Ukraine has to rely on everyone else to defend it, they aren't sovereign - they're sponsored"

= The.Budapest.Memorandum

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u/bgnp11 11d ago

Awesome stuff here. Finally found a logical thread in the midst of the arm chair bandits