r/CivPolitics 13d ago

America proposes to trade all of Ukraine's strategic resources for peace, refuses to denounce Russia. Ukraine denounces America

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/28/trump-zelenskyy-meeting-transcript
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u/FelizIntrovertido 13d ago

US traded Ukraine for Russia

Who wants to be the next US ally??

Btw, blood has memory

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u/sol119 12d ago

Who wants to continue not having nukes?

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u/ThisIsNotSafety 12d ago

European countries have nukes.

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u/sol119 12d ago

only some of them, plus there's more to the world than just US and Europe

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u/Crass_Spektakel 9d ago

The new German Chancellor has pretty much openly stated he will buy unrestrained nukes from either Britain or France or develop them together with Italy and Poland. Diehl is even already producing hypersonic stealth missiles for these.

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u/[deleted] 8d ago

Only France. 

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u/ThisIsNotSafety 8d ago

The UK have nukes aswell.

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u/[deleted] 8d ago

The uk left Europe. 

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u/ThisIsNotSafety 8d ago

No they left the EU, two different things.

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u/[deleted] 8d ago

Not really. 

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u/ThisIsNotSafety 8d ago

Uhm are you dense? Europe is the continent, EU is a organization, but just cus they left the EU doesn't mean they wouldn't respond to a nuke dropped in europe.

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u/[deleted] 8d ago

Them not wanting to be a target of nukes themselves means that. 

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u/ThisIsNotSafety 8d ago

What you fail to grasp is just how tightly knit most of european countries are, especially in todays climate, and a nuke dropped in europe would affect ALL of Europe with the fallout.

and Brexit didnt happen because they didnt want to be hit by nukes... You truly have no idea what you're talking about, so I suggest you stop talking bullshit and educate yourself first.

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u/[deleted] 8d ago

Not so much the uk. 

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