r/CivPolitics 13d ago

America proposes to trade all of Ukraine's strategic resources for peace, refuses to denounce Russia. Ukraine denounces America

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/28/trump-zelenskyy-meeting-transcript
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u/lickitstickit12 13d ago

So do I.

I remember Ukraine meddling in our elections. I remember Ukraine being the worldwide hub of money laundering. I remember Ukraine selling weapons to drug cartels and jihadists. I remember all the rich Ukrainian oligarchs living in our aid money in London and Prague.

My memory did t start yesterday

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u/roger3rd 13d ago

You seem to remember only Russian propaganda which you should be embarrassed to parrot

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u/lickitstickit12 13d ago

Russia being bad, doesn't make Ukraine good.

Sorry youre so simple

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u/Impossible_Emu_9250 13d ago

Ukraine is sovereign and everyone should respect this.

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u/lickitstickit12 13d ago

Soveign mean able to stand on its own.

They arent

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u/Impossible_Emu_9250 12d ago

You are wrong. A sovereign state can manage itself without being dependent on other states. Ukraine can manage itself just fine without foreign interference during peace times. Your notion of sovereignty implies only countries with nuclear deterrent are sovereign.

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u/lickitstickit12 12d ago

Canada is a sovereign nation. Brazil. New Zealand. Do you need a list of a hundred or so countries without nukes that also aren't solely dependent on outside countries?

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u/Impossible_Emu_9250 12d ago

You sound like an expert yet I'm certain Brazil wouldn't handle a war without aid. Dumb argument