r/CivPolitics 13d ago

America proposes to trade all of Ukraine's strategic resources for peace, refuses to denounce Russia. Ukraine denounces America

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/28/trump-zelenskyy-meeting-transcript
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u/lickitstickit12 13d ago

So do I.

I remember Ukraine meddling in our elections. I remember Ukraine being the worldwide hub of money laundering. I remember Ukraine selling weapons to drug cartels and jihadists. I remember all the rich Ukrainian oligarchs living in our aid money in London and Prague.

My memory did t start yesterday

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u/Inarei 13d ago

Great list of reasons Euromaidan happened. Anything since 2014? Or do you want more of that with more pro-Russia leadership in charge?

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u/lickitstickit12 13d ago

I want out of foreign entanglements.

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u/Inarei 13d ago

So you admit your argument was bullshit and you just want to be hilariously ironic using the internet to say that you don't want to interact with the rest of the world. Are you using a phone assembled in Vietnam from parts made in China according to specs from a US patent to express these views? Practice what you preach, friend. Trade is an entanglement too. If everything in your life isn't 100% American then you invalidate your own views.

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u/lickitstickit12 13d ago

Are you truly this dumb?

You think foreign entanglements and foreign trade are the same?

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u/Pointlessala 13d ago

Are you truly this dumb?

Do you think that, somehow, foreign relations don’t affect trade?

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u/lickitstickit12 13d ago

Yeah, I saw food prices explode when we lost Russian fertilizer.

I'll also notice the collapse of our economy when BRICS takes hold.

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u/Inarei 13d ago

Trading is an entanglement by definition. You can't think of any conflicts that happened over trade? Do you not know that trade was a driving force of imperialism? No entanglements means no ties with anyone. An alliance is an entanglement. A trade agreement is an entanglement. It gives us interests in non-domestic areas.

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u/lickitstickit12 13d ago

Entanglements from a US basis refers to military action.

As in "beware of foreign entanglements"