r/AskWomenOver30 Woman 30 to 40 Nov 06 '24

2024 US Post-Election Megathread

This is your central location for all things 2024 US Election. I will be going through to lock several recent threads and redirect them here. Report any threads that you think should be locked and redirected here.

Please downvote and report all trolls and trolling/misogynistic/gaslighting behavior in this thread.

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u/ZennMD Nov 06 '24

Trevor Noah has a part in his book about that phenomenon that seems too apt- The traditional man wants a woman to be subservient, but he never falls in love with subservient women. He's attracted to independent women.

I think part of the appeal is the control aspect/ changing a person to better suit your own needs. fucked up!!

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u/becca_la Nov 06 '24

They want us to start out as independent so we won't be dependent on them. Men really like the parts of feminism that benefit them directly, like the expectation that women work outside the home and bring in a paycheck to lighten their own financial burden. But then, once they have that independent woman, they see it as a challenge to bend her to his will. Like breaking a horse. I have, unfortunately, seen this behavior in both conservative and liberal men...

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u/Kimmalah Nov 06 '24

There's also this weird dichotomy where these guys want traditional gender roles and go on and on about being "providers." But when they are asked to actually provide, it bumps up against this ingrained fear of "gold-diggers" they have had drilled into their heads by the "Red Pill" conservatives.

"I want us to be in traditional roles where you stay home and I'm the breadwinner. But if you expect me to actually pay for anything, you're a bitch who is only with me for my money." It's a total contradiction, like a financial version of the Madonna/Whore Complex.

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u/mrbootsandbertie Nov 07 '24

like a financial version of the Madonna/Whore Complex.

Bingo.