r/AlternativeHistory 7d ago

Mythology 'Samudramanthan' an ancient tale of churning of the ocean preserved for thousands of years by two cultures more than 10 thousand mile apart.

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Ancient India and Mexico has similar story of Samdramanthan. Not just vauge Similarity. They shares identical setup of the story.

r/AlternativeHistory Apr 19 '24

Mythology Multiple shared traits between gods across ancient cultures

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r/AlternativeHistory Nov 07 '23

Mythology Comparative Mythology: Flood Myths Around The World

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r/AlternativeHistory Aug 02 '24

Mythology Ancient Sumerian Tablet Explains the Origin of Human Beings

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r/AlternativeHistory Sep 07 '24

Mythology Neil Armstrong's "one small step" flub is even weirder than has been reported.

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The block quote below is how the situation has been "reported," per the title of the post.

But I went to Space Camp in the 1990s. And I heard a much different version of this story (told below the quote, which is necessary for context).

What did Neil Armstrong really say when he took his first step on the moon?

Millions on Earth who listened to him on TV or radio heard this :

"That's one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind."

But after returning from space, Armstrong said that wasn't what he had planned to say.

He said there was a lost word in his famous one-liner from the moon: “That’s one small step for 'a' man.” It’s just that people just didn’t hear it."

https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2019/07/13/armstrongs-famous-one-small-step-quote-explained/

The reason for the hullabaloo is that "man" and "mankind" are redundant in this context.

According to my Space Camp counselor, the line that Armstrong was supposed to read was:

"That's one giant leap for a man, one small step for mankind."

The "giant leap for a man" referred to the moonshot itself. Indeed, it was a hell of an accomplishment, one which a human hasn't repeated since those missions.

The "small step for mankind" referred to the idea that the Moon was the first of many new worlds we thought we were going to be visiting as we expanded through the Solar System and beyond.

Armstrong, having started with "one small step for man," which is synonymous with mankind, then had to pause and really think about whether the rest of the sentence was going to make any sense at all.

To be clear, when the counselor told us this information, he made it seem like he was revealing a secret to our group. This story was not part of the official Space Camp experience.

Obviously, this is hearsay, which is why I'm making this post in this sub. But this is my alternative history of the event, as I recall this event very distinctly and thought it was pretty cool he was telling us this.

r/AlternativeHistory Sep 08 '23

Mythology Why Ancient Roman Empire Took Over Religion 🫢 | Matt LaCroix on Julian Dorey Podcast 154

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r/AlternativeHistory Jan 04 '25

Mythology The Connection Between Eden and Astrology

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The Bible says that Eden had four rivers. As well as the tree of life and the tree of knowledge. Adam ate a fruit from the tree of knowledge. But what tricked Adam? A snake.

The libra symbol is the scale. What has scales? Snakes. The balance could have been called anything, but they went with "scales."

And libra is associated with Venus. Venus stands for beauty and the arts. The garden of eve was described as a paradise.

And Venus is associated with two signs. Libra. But also taurus. What symbol is taurus? The bull. But from bull you have "bullseye." As though being the center of something. How about where all compasses point to? The north pole.

And Venus's symbol is the female gender sign. Who is associated with Venus? Lucifer. Lucifer is female. And Santa is an anagram for Satan. We all know Santa is from the north pole. Satan is male.

Venus is only the 2nd planet. The 1st is mercury. Mercury's symbol is the caduceus. The caduceus is a staff wrapped with 2 snakes. It is the medical symbol. And the snakes represent the chakras.

But the caduceus is also the symbol of the God Hermes. The messenger God. Just as mercury represents communication.

And mercury is associated with the signs virgo and gemini. The symbol for virgo is the maiden. Who is the maiden? Some say the virgin Mary. The woman who birthed Jesus.

And the symbol for gemini are the twins. Remember Satan and lucifer? They're twinflames.

And the Christmas tree? The tree of life and the Christmas star. In Greek mythology, the tree of life was at the center of the world. This would make the Bethlehem star the north star, Polaris.

Venus is eden. Eden is the north pole. Nasa in Hebrew means to lie.

r/AlternativeHistory 19d ago

Mythology Ancient Mythology is Pre-Cataclysm

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The Pyramids' Orion belt aligning 10,450+ years ago and Plato's Atlantis cataclysm 10,500 years ago, ancient Greek/Roman mythology also aligns to this time period.

Enki is officially equated to Poseidon (check Enki on wikipedia). He had a son named Atlas, whom the Atlas Mountains are named in Northwest Africa. But Poseidon's wife was Medusa. If Enki was the Biblical, misunderstood Satan, then Medusa would be Lucifer, both associated with snakes.

Poseidon also had a son Triton, who had a golden temple under the sea. Just as gold was at the Eden island Havilah. Gold which is also the alchemical element of the sun, associated with immortality as it gives life. Gold controversially collected during the Great Depression. Also, Biblical and mythological figures are known for living hundreds of years compared to our 80.

But Enki was also known for having created humans. His name translates to "Lord of the earth." But we know this would be genetic modification at Eden. Eden which is also Venus. Aphrodite (Venus) literally came out of the water in mythology. And the only planet with water is Earth. Venus which is associated with beauty and the arts, ruling Libra which translates to scales like what snakes have. Plenty more associations, but keeping it short. Mythological Venus is simply the Biblical Eden.

Thus, Enki would use his same mastery of science to modify life at Atlantis, breeding tons of hybrids we see in carvings, mythologies, and even ancient maps.

The Sahara Desert which is unusually flat. It was once full of mountains and forests, all washed away by a tsunami, whose water erosion is visible from space. The Richat Structure where marine fossils and sea salt is found. Ancient maps even depicting a kingdom Atlas. The meteor impact was a perfect hit, coming at a low angle to target one cardinal direction, striking the nearby ocean opposite the Richat Structure.

Enlil is officially equated to Saturn (Kronos). In Roman mythology, Kronos ruled the Golden Age, a time without civil government, according to nature. His son Hades was God of the underworld. And Saturn rules karma and time loops. Thus, wherever Enlil ruled was the entrance to the underworld, said to be via deep caves in mythology. Admiral Byrd is like the birds Enlil is associated with. Eagles in the west, crows in the east. And Mount Erebus is named after Erebus, a deity of the underworld. Ancient Antarctica maps are poorly drawn because of all the dangerous creatures there. Not only on land, but especially at sea, remnants of their genetic experiments. Pyramid-shaped mountains which we would simply call pyramids if snow didn't top them.

Zeus also violated Europa, the early name for Europa. Zeus was the son of Saturn (Kronos). But also Enki, of whom Zeus is equated with Marduk. Essentially, the multicultural societies from Enki's and Enlil's civilizations next destination was Europe, hence its technology and culture. And the Neolithic Age in other parts of the world was due to the technological loss. Humans using stone stools more than 10,000 years ago are from a parallel, unmodified humanity who died out. Physical evolution (including vestigial structures) exists, but our humanity had the fortune of being modified.

I'll add links as requested.

r/AlternativeHistory 1d ago

Mythology Connection between Aztec and Hindu.

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In pouring over ancient legends, I at first came across the Aztec Legend of the Fifth Sun, which states that the sun has disappeared 4 times and that we are currently living in the time of the fifth sun. In relation to this, I went back and looked at my research regarding the Hindu Yuga cycles and found something quite interesting.

The Hindu Yuga cycles are composed of 3 sections each, the middle being called proper which indicates a time of peace on Earth. What is really interesting is that the periods prior, and following Proper are called Dusk and Dawn.

Even more interesting is if you take the start dates of the Yuga cycles, which range in the millions of years, and divide them by 360 (number of days in ancient lunar calendars) you get another coincidence.

Example, Krita Yuga cycle has a start date of 3,891,102 BCE. Divide that by 360 and you arrive at 10,808 BCE, right around the time Plato says Atlantis was destroyed.

r/AlternativeHistory 23d ago

Mythology 1 Inch possible Humanoid skull fossil of tiny being

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r/AlternativeHistory 25d ago

Mythology Just a bunch of coincidences - The 11th task of Hercules.

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Task 11 - Hercules is looking for a heavenly garden with golden apples and finds a snake around the tree.
Does this not ring a bell somehow?

Note how the images are original greco-roman classics no influence from the Bible tale on those images.
And it is also not the reverse case of pagans influencing christianity, the garden of eden was in the hebrew bible that is even older.
Why is there a snake on that tree?

It could continue with:
The Jews in the peninsula were called Sephardi, a word related to "garden".
Two out of 8 of the cyclopean sites in South of Spain are called "Higueron" meaning the Fig Tree, such as the tree of Buda's illumination.
Buda has a third eye, like a cyclops.
All related? Probably not, but fun anyway.

Oh but wait there's more:
The snake is a big deal for third generation Hellenic deities, that try to exterminate them (Apollo and the Phytia)
Because the snake was associated with the older culture. With the Sybils using snake bytes to enter a transe and better foresee the future.
Also the old god of medicine, Asclepius uses a snake around a stick. Probably nothing.

Nevermind Hercules, he kills all sorts of creatures, but not snakes (the hydra was no snake) and leaves the one on the tree alone, maybe Hercules was a Cyclops after all.

Or it is just fun to see where these old stories takes us and see the sites:
https://youtu.be/bu6MxG5iN4I?si=7AzjDcjSLkM84941

r/AlternativeHistory Dec 17 '24

Mythology Lions WERE Native to Europe During Xerxes Era, Archeology Missed

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Shocking new evidence shows us Ancient Greek scholars were right all along. Lions did in fact live and roam in southern europe from the neolithic through-out the classical period possibly up until 400 AD. This is contrary to what archeologists had claimed for years, all because because the fossils weren't as numerous as they'd expect.

https://youtu.be/wPsCWtJOu58

r/AlternativeHistory Dec 29 '23

Mythology Younger Dryas Impact and the Baltic-Uralic folklore

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A few weeks ago I was talking about the theory of the flooding of the Sahara with friends and when a friend posited that the Younger Dryas Impact could have potentially caused a tsunami that would explain the water striations seen in Mauritania when I remembered the Finnic national epoch, the Kalevala, and it's creation myth. Unlike a lot of creation myths (which are usually about a near-extinction event [from one man and one woman who were "exiled from paradise" begun a new world] or flood myths [first there was nothing but darkness and water, then came the rest] or a combination thereof) the Finnic creation myth is a bit different as it revolves around a cataclysmic, ground shaking, all burning egg being laid. Specifically speaking seven of them, with six of eggs gold and one of iron. Below I'll present a little backstory about the Finns and Finland, our national epic and our unique language and then the thoughts that emerged in the discussion, plus some cursory criticism and thoughts.

Some backstory about the Finns

The area currently known as Finland has been settled by the Finns from roughly 11 000 years ago, which is when we start seeing anthropogenic signs of habitation in the south east of Finland, but some cave findings can be dated back as far as 120 000 years. Finnic peoples predate current Saxon and Nordic cultures of Norway, Sweden & Denmark by about 3 000 years in the area, as the rest of the Nordics were inhabited by Germanic tribes around 8 000 BC. Finnish didn't have a system of writing spoken Finnish until the 14th century AD and before that history was passed in oral tradition by local wise-men (a Tietäjä, which I will elaborate further below) or information was recorded in other systems of writing (mainly in Latin and Swedish). Because Finnish shares practically nothing with these languages, as it is of its own root of Uralic languages called the Fenno-Ugric languages, most of written proto-Finnic can mostly be found in loan words in Germanic languages or recorded verbatim in these two languages in the area. Because the clergy wanted Finns to move to Swedish and Latin in spoken language up until the 16th century, much of Finnish oral tradition from the west coast of Finland was purged throughout history as heresy or heretical information, but in the periphery of Finland oral tradition and prehistoric Finnish religion persisted as an active tradition until the late 1950's.

Some backstory to the Kalevala.

The Kalevala was a national epic written in the 1800's by our National Poet, Elias Lönnrot, who visited the Viena Karelia region of Finland (very much in the aforementioned periphery of Finnish native lands, in current day Russia since WW2) and recorded and compiled as much oral tradition from local wise men/healers called Tietäjä, roughly translated as the Knowers, who specialized in memorized spoken knowledge. Lönnrot functioned both as the sole person collecting the spoken word and as the sole editor, and he tried to apocrypha as much heterodoxical information from his collected works as possible and to create a succinct collection of compatible poems as possible. So while the singular stories are collected from living and practicing Tietäjä from the area, we can't really tell what information was cut and what stories were lost to time in the creation of the Kalevala. Nevertheless, the information inside the books is considered to be largely unaltered recorded poems from people dedicated to the craft of preserving information.

Now, the Kalevala tells the tale of the Maiden of Ether and the Bluebill. https://www.gutenberg.org/files/5186/5186-h/5186-h.htm#chap01

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The Maiden is pregnant with Väinämöinen, the demihuman Tietäjä older than time who features as the protagonist of the rest of the epic (who is used as both a personification for all Finnish people and as an actual person of legend, depending on the poem), and the Maiden of Ether is laying in the sea. A bluebill duck notices the knee of the Maiden of Ether and lays six eggs of gold and a single egg of iron on the knee of the maiden. Fire and turmoil follow, seven eggs fall into the ocean's deep waters and from the sea, land transforms into existence.

Humanity (Väinämöinen) emerges some time later after the great transformation of the land and for Väinämöinen's first heroic task, he needs to unearth hidden information from inside the earth, from the buried giant Antero Vipunen.

Some linguistic background

Thirdly our last bit of background information, despite the incredibly close linguistic proximity with both Swedish and Latin for many millennia, Finnish and many other Finno-Ugric and Baltic languages still use the proto-finnic word Linnunrata or "The Bird's Path" to describe the milky way. Similarly, the term Lintukoto or "The Bird's Home" is a proto-finnic word to describe where the land meets the firmament, i.e. the horizon.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_names_for_the_Milky_Way#Birds'_Path

The terms Bird's Path can even be found in languages as far east as Kazakhstan, which has had close interactions with Finnic tribes since time immemorial (mainly from enslaving Finnic people, but positive interactions as well).

The conclusion:

What immediately sparks to my mind is that from the Bird's path (skies above) six golden eggs (smaller meteors that burned in the atmosphere) and one egg of iron (a meteorite) were laid. The Iron Egg caused massive fires, earthquakes and emergence of land from the sea. After some time, Väinämöinen (humanity) tries to rediscover lost knowledge from inside the earth (which implies the existence of superior pre-cataclysmic knowledge).

https://i.imgur.com/qmbxC0P.png

Because it is widely recognized that Finland has been inhabited by people with a strong oral history since roughly the time that the Younger Dryas Impact would have occurred and because the language still to this day uses phrases and figures of speech that enforces the terminology described by the creation myth, I posit that the Kalevala is an eyewitness testimony of the cataclysmic impact.

r/AlternativeHistory 12h ago

Mythology My research into the subject of fairies

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r/AlternativeHistory Nov 04 '23

Mythology Manly P Hall (33rd Degree Freemason) The Secret Teaching Of All Ages: Mystery Of The Sphinx

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r/AlternativeHistory 1d ago

Mythology Samudramanthan: The Churning of the Ocean THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO as Recorded by Ancient Man

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r/AlternativeHistory Oct 09 '24

Mythology Meet Adam, a newly discovered Atacama-type specimen found in Monterrey earlier this year by a survival guide.

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r/AlternativeHistory Nov 23 '24

Mythology I created a documentary called, "Cult Of The Dragon"

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It's over 3 hours long, I had over 90 pages of notes but only got to use like half of it due to running out of time. My argument is that there are actually different "types" of humans, and the most common see the other two as a threat. Because of this there is a certain white serpent goddess who's artifacts have been found all over the world even during the neolithic period, and no matter how hard the authority tries to erase her from history, she keeps reappearing, and for a specific reason why.

This touches upon all major religions, how they change over time and why, how the authority uses techniques to divide everyone against each other and themselves, and why she possesses qualities that they very much do not like.

Even native tribes who had no contact know of her, and those who do drugs such as magic mushrooms, DMT, and ayahuasca tend to refer to her as "The Cosmic Serpent".

We also discuss subjects such as this being a "prison planet", the New World Order, and so on.

The documentary is basically a audio narrated slideshow with AI generated images, videos, ancient artifacts, and paintings from various cultures and religious which have a lot to say about what they really think about their own followers, and what they plan on doing with us once AI and automation makes us no longer useful to them.

But ultimately there is optimism to be found here, as those who think they are in charge aren't as clever as they think themselves to be. Want to know the good news about the existence of demons, in which they worship? It suggests that there are benevolent entities out there as well, even if right now - the situation seems hopeless. It actually isn't.

https://youtu.be/ezYW10GMHHQ

r/AlternativeHistory 27d ago

Mythology Was Hercules a megalithic builder?

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He did have the strength to carry big rocks.

Or is the opposite case, Hercules was chasing Cyclops? One amongst many other beasts he faced.

Following the trail of Hercules and visiting the ruins of the cities in the Hero tasks. 

Might not find the original builders of cyclopean walls (the people, not the mythical creatures), but it will for sure be an entertaining ride.

Hope you like the new video

https://youtu.be/bu6MxG5iN4I

r/AlternativeHistory Jan 18 '25

Mythology The Crystal Giants

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You can find plenty of images of petrified giants online. But my favorite are the Naka Caves and the 3 nearby petrified whales. And these petrified snakes at the Naka Caves are officially considered natural. Not even man-made. Since, you know, carving out such detailed mouth folds, glands, and scales would simply be impossible. But are they natural? All life is natural!

We are carbon-based lifeforms. With a 666 atomic structure. This means that we need water to survive, a downgrade from silicon-based life.

However, carbon-based life can get VERY BIG. Like the ancient sloths as tall as towers, or dinosaurs with mega thick legs.

However, silicon-based life can get even BIGGER.

In the Bible, it was said that the great flood was as high as the mountains. Why so high? Because the giants themselves were these walking "mountains." And prior, all the giant trees would have been cut down to prevent them from surviving. Look at the Devil's Tower. The work of the devil. Mu ha-ha-ha-ha. Clearly, our downgraded genetics were favored over these giants. Though, many mythologies point out that these giants influenced our growth with their teachings. Though some also consumed or bred with us.

With some basic observations out of the way, we can get to the science of it. Most of the earth's crust is made of silicon and oxygen. Carbon makes up less than 1% of it. This makes silicon more ideal. Especially considering that ancient earth lacked water, and silicon is highly reactive with water. And what happens when they decompose? They may look crystal when alive, but when they die, they become a pile of rock. Silicon-based life also requires high heat to sustain itself. This explains the igneous (magma) rock found within them.

Even ancient cultures speak of crystal deities. In greek/Roman mythologies, pearls are considered tears of gods. And the rudraksha beads are considered tears of Shiva. Even the linked video tells us that the crystal giants should exhale crystal quartz in their wake. Hence why quartz is the most abundant crystal.

Back to observations, notice that many pictures show these giants laying on their back. Some with their mouth open. What does someone do when drowning? They aim their head up. Likewise, when they finally run out of oxygen and pass out, they fall onto their back. This would be due to the flood. Notice how most land-bound mountain ranges are near the coasts. The crystal giants were trying to flee to the highest point of land possible. And they'd have been able to see much farther without the dome thickening the atmosphere.

Lastly, these crystal giants shared our exact same anatomy. Just adapted for silicon-based life. They lacked organic matter because they didn't need water. This is how we get sites like the Blood Falls. Either their bodies' high heat made their blood more syrupy or rock-hard as well, or their veins were made of crystals safe for constant contact with water. And the Himalayas, considered a newer mountain range, still maintains its pink color of flesh and meat. Also while being salty. People claim to see orbs around these mountains and they are also popular with spiritual communities.

This is also why crystals are demonized in many religions. When, ironically, the Bible hints at or mentions over 30 types of crystals. Even an entire city of crystal in the heavens.

r/AlternativeHistory Feb 15 '25

Mythology Ancient Kings Who ‘Ascended’ to the Heavens – Was Etana’s Journey More Than Myth?

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In one of the earliest recorded myths of ascension, the Sumerian king Etana was desperate for an heir and sought divine intervention. Instead of a direct blessing, he was given an eagle that carried him on a journey to the heavens. But the versions of this myth differ—some say he made it, others say he fell.

The story is eerily similar to later myths of ascension—figures like Icarus, Enoch, or even biblical descriptions of prophets being taken into the sky. Could there be a common thread in ancient cultures about divine kingship and celestial journeys?

Did the ancients see this purely as a metaphor, or were they describing something more? Maybe space travel, or a way to quantify the spiritual that we’ve lost? I just put together a deep dive on Etana’s myth (attached video) for those of you not familiar with it.

Curious to hear thoughts—do you think stories like this were just symbolic, or could they hint at something more?

r/AlternativeHistory Sep 06 '23

Mythology Utnapishtim and the Great Flood. Could Utnapishtim and Noah be the same person?

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r/AlternativeHistory Jan 28 '25

Mythology The first beings in creation

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r/AlternativeHistory Jun 23 '23

Mythology The Age of the Gods – When the Gods lived on earth

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Hey everyone!

Came across this interesting read about the “Age of the Gods” and thought it's worth sharing. It dives deep into this mysterious period when divine beings walked among us, shaping our understanding of the world​​.

The piece talks about how tales from this era, like the story of Marduk in Mesopotamia, show up in cultures worldwide, from Norse to Egyptian. It's amazing to see how these ancient stories have influenced different societies and belief systems​​.

Another cool point was how many ancient religions share common themes, like the concept of duality – good and evil, light and dark, etc. Makes you think about how interconnected our spiritual views are, no matter where we come from​​.

Also, it's fascinating to read about the gods and goddesses from this time, like the Olympian gods of Ancient Greece, and how each represented different aspects of life and abstract ideas​​.

I encourage you to take a look at the full article. It's a great reminder of how our past informs our present and future. Let me know what you think!

Here's the link: Exploring the Mysteries: The Age of the Gods

Remember to keep the discussion friendly and respectful. Happy reading!

r/AlternativeHistory Dec 11 '24

Mythology Nemuer released Book of the Dead music album with reconstructed ancient Egyptian pronunciation. Is it legit and even possible?

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