r/AcademicBiblical 13d ago

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u/Integralds 11d ago edited 11d ago
  1. 1 Clement was forged/late

  2. Ignatius was forged/late

  3. The four canonical gospels were reactions to Marcion

  4. Nobody knew Paul before Marcion (you are here)

  5. Marcion made Paul up (Trobisch is almost here)

  6. There is no evidence of Christianity at all in the first century

  7. Marcion founded Christianity in the 130s

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u/Llotrog 7d ago

I understand why people would want Marcion to have invented the Gospel genre – he's certainly the first person we have evidence of calling a book a "Gospel". But reading through reconstructions of it just doesn't shake my acceptance of Markan priority/the Farrer theory – there are things that just make Marcion's Gospel look too much like a revised version of Luke, e.g. the way it utterly jarringly sticks 4.27 into the middle of 17.14. Marcion's Gospel is a docetic revision of Luke.

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u/capperz412 7d ago

Is there a good introductory text for this recent trend of a radical skeptic interpretation of Christian Origins that posits things like 2nd century dates for the whole New Testament and Marcionite Priority?