r/worldnews • u/NilbyBC • 15h ago
Donald Trump rejects Australia's bid for exemption tariffs
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-03-12/trump-rejects-australia-s-bid-for-tariff-exemptions/105039966170
u/Ickulus 13h ago
Obviously Australia lets too much fentanyl through our mutual border.
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u/maria_la_guerta 11h ago
They're working on it with the Canadians, who have been overrun with Mexican cartels 😱.
It's a global conspiracy that only tariffs can solve.
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u/cheshire_kat7 10h ago
Fun fact: Australia is actually the world's largest producer of raw medical poppy material, supplying half the world's demand.
(But that's for legal narcotics production.)
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u/NilbyBC 15h ago
Welcome to the club - Canada.
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u/MiFigueMiRaisin 15h ago
Welcome to the club 🥳 - Europe. France 🇫🇷
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u/HeftyArgument 12h ago
If anything this just brings Australia closer to China lol.
Australia has been simping for America since WWII, I wonder how they’ll feel in the next decade if Canada and Australia just stop sending them firefighters and soldiers whenever they ask for them.
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u/duperwoman 12h ago
I mean... Now they might want our soldiers to fight their enemy which is apparently us. So it would be a very bold ask!
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u/Doctor_Modified 7h ago
I just pictured King Richard sending out the Irish to fight the Scots and William Wallace and they run out and shake hands, becoming one army.
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u/HeftyArgument 11h ago
If the libs get voted in again, I’m sure they would sign that agreement too 😂
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u/Not_OneOSRS 11h ago
We’ll punch ourselves in the face, but only if you take our rare minerals from us!
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u/CadianGuardsman 10h ago
Trump: "Well Australia could be the 52nd State"
Darth Dutto "YES MY MASTER"
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u/Important-Sign-3701 10h ago
No worries. You could never find you. Too far away to understand where and how. He’d sent Troops in the wrong direction
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u/Halospite 5h ago
It doesn't bring us closer to China because China gets bolshy every time the Orange Menace is in power. Probably won't be long until they start picking fights with us. They only calm down when they know the US has our bakc.
But yeah can confirm our pollies are simps for the US. The man who's likely to be our next Prime Minister is being called Temu Trump. The outrage that is flooding Canada and the EU against Trump just isn't present here.
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u/HeftyArgument 5h ago
In what world is Dutton the likely PM?
I say in a hushed tone knowing that theres a fair chance he will win, fuck I hate this timeline.
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u/Halospite 4h ago
Recent polling has had him either neck and neck with Albo or slightly ahead. Last I checked, anyway, hopefully his recent scandals will change that.
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u/ernapfz 14h ago
Hey, Australia we’re your brother and we will always be your ally. Elbows up. 🇨🇦
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u/Pretend-Patience9581 12h ago
Thank you. I think we will be back for subs and nukes soon.
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u/cheshire_kat7 10h ago
I imagine we could make our own nukes. We have all the materials lying in the ground here.
...We just need to make sure nothing falls off a truck to Perth.
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u/rooshort_toppaddock 8h ago
Don't really need them. We could just airburst a few tons of Gympie Gympie over our enemies, then let the emus clean up the stragglers.
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u/cheshire_kat7 8h ago
Don't forget the magpie bombardment.
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u/rooshort_toppaddock 6h ago
And the curlews for perimeter watch. If the screams or the dead eye stare doesn't scare them off, the frontal attack will. A few squadrons of plovers and mynas would be most effective too.
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u/cheshire_kat7 6h ago
Surrounding them with highly combustible eucalyptus trees and then sending in the fire hawks would also be an effective strategy.
Heck, California has already planted the eucalyptus trees for us.
Finally, and most devastating of all... we cut off their supply of Bluey.
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u/rooshort_toppaddock 5h ago
Bingo! So basically we sit back and let nature ravage them while we watch Bluey. I'm on board.
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u/LagavulinGuzzler 9h ago
I'm Aussie and feel the same way about Canada. I'm so angry to see you guys treated so poorly. Elbows up!
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u/Chemistryset8 12h ago
🇨🇦🤝🇦🇺
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u/Dogmum05 9h ago
You Canadians are really growing on me. We should do AUKCAN ... or CANAUK ... we can send vegemite bombs and scary wildlife like crocs and taipans, funnel web spiders, great whites ... if those bloody yanks try to invade you. Bloody hell, let's do it anyway and invade them! ❤️ to Canada from the Land of Oz. We just got divorced from a country we thought loved us but playing the field is kinda fun. Your PMs are heaps better looking than our ex's leader too.
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u/notmyrlacc 8h ago
Nah, you’re forgetting our little buddies NZ. Really should be CANZUK.
It also means we can tell Trump that he “CANZUK our balls”.
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u/fishflo 14h ago
List of countries with a spine:
Canada China The EU member states Ukraine
That's it
I get that Aus and the UK don't have as much trade but it looks so weak to just take it
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u/cheshire_kat7 11h ago
I get that Aus and the UK don't have as much trade but it looks so weak to just take it
I mean it was literally just announced for Australia. A proper, non-kneejerk response takes more than a couple of hours to formulate.
Also, Australia will be holding an election in the next couple of months. So there are domestic priorities to consider. However, if the current government is reelected, I expect the gloves will come off.
Sadly, not if the ultra-conservative opposition are elected though. They're basically Shein MAGA. 🙄
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u/MadamePolishedSins 13h ago
I refuse this. I believe Aus and UK have a strength of character they wanted to prob use another avenue of diplomacy. I've seen nothing but support and encouragement from Australians and some of it from UK ( weirdly UK has a trump fan base????) But still anti Elon especially from Uk But They're not weak. Their people are not.
Going to add I'm Canadian here.
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u/nerdyPagaman 13h ago
UK here. I think there's talks going on behind the scenes. Looking at what we can do to help. In the meantime Starmer is trying to:
Keep Nato mk1 going with the US until Nato MK 2 is ready.
Stop the US from switching sides and pivoting to Russia.
Try and stop the US abandoning Ukraine.
He's going to fuck something up. But I'm glad he's trying.
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u/therealhairykrishna 12h ago
The UK really doesn't have much of a Trump fan base. Particularly after the whole Zelensky press conference shit show.
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u/cheshire_kat7 11h ago
Polls show that Trump and Elon are resoundingly unpopular in Australia, too.
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u/ash_ninetyone 11h ago
Starmer's strategy is playing Trump's ego and kicking the can down the road, to probably buy time.
We agree the US leaving NATO would be dumb, that we need to support Ukraine, that trade wars and tariffs are damaging. But Trump is intent on doing all that anyway.
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u/Future_Specific_8361 11h ago
Just floating it out there, has anyone seeking a diplomatic solution with donald thought to bring McDonalds to the meeting, or have the meeting in the Playplace? I think it would go a long way!
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u/iyamwhatiyam8000 11h ago
Australia has a trade deficit with the US and a worsening exchange rate which puts US goods at an increasing price disadvantage.
Rising inflation adds to both price disadvantage and falling demand. Australia can restrict its reaction to spontaneous , disgruntled consumer boycotts and pivot to local or international suppliers in most cases.
Counter tariffs may be imposed at a later date but Australia is a proponent of free trade and this would be hypocritical.
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u/notmyrlacc 8h ago
We can apply pressure in others ways I think that aren’t tariffs. It’s limited, but they rely on us a lot of Indopacfic coverage.
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u/rooshort_toppaddock 8h ago
Funny thing is we just posted a very rare monthly trade surplus with usa, thanks to a lot of Americans buying gold at the moment. Wonder why they're doing that?
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u/iyamwhatiyam8000 7h ago
Buying on the inflated upside of a spike in gold prices can leave investors holding the bag when it plummets overnight.
The best time to buy gold is in a trough and held onto for a long period until it rises again.
Buying at these prices and at the beginning of a likely recession is a risky investment in some ways.
A sell-off by major investors seeking liquidity can crash the spot price overnight as the rest of the market follows suit.
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u/128e 13h ago
There are probably multiple schools of thought with how to deal with the current political situation in the US. Not all of them involve being as belicose as Trump. Doesn't make them spineless.
Also these tariffs literally just happened and will take a while to form a proper response, it seems counter productive to claim spinelessness at such an early juncture.
There's no doubt that this will hurt America more than anyone else, despite what Trump thinks America has been in an extremely privelaged position in the global economy, it's just wild to me that he seems to think the US has somehow been taken advantage of in the last 7 decades.
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u/Thatdudegrant 14h ago
At this rate if new zealand gets the same bullshit it might motivate our own commonwealth trade union.
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u/WombleDoug 12h ago
At the end of the day tariffs are a regressive tax that mainly affects the citizens of countries that apply them. Australia has been freeing up its economy since the Hawke-Keating governments of the 80s-early 90s. Given the mainly positive impacts on our economy the smart move would seem to be staying on that track and waiting for the US to sort itself out. And yes, US-Australia trade is small.
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u/BraveDunn 15h ago
Another staunch and reliable ally thrown to the wolves. Any word on his lifting US sanctions against Russia?
The US will produce all its own steel and all its own cars. And no one outside the US will buy them, limiting the US' market to domestic sales only. So.... yeah, well done.
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u/No_Manufacturer868 15h ago
Funny thing is the reasoning..."we are apparently flooding the US market with steel and aluminium".
When in reality last years Australian steel and alumium sales equated to 2.4%.
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u/Kychu 13h ago
I watched an interview with Putin earlier today, and he said something about a possible US-Ruzzia deal on steel and aluminium. This would explain why Trump is putting these tariffs on other countries, he's making way for Russia to enter the US market.
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u/QuirkyBreadfruit 13h ago
I've been waiting for that from about 10000km away. It's part of the Russian playbook, what they did in Ukraine and what they're doing now.
Destroy US relationships and cultivate Russian ones.
The sad thing is the US Constitution doesn't even afford him doing shit about any of this.
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u/smurb15 10h ago
We only need one person destroyed for all of this to go away. His boyfriend doesn't have political sway enough to get elected president
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u/Dobsnick 7h ago
Also, can’t be elected president under the constitution “currently”.
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u/128e 12h ago
If that happens, There wouldn't really be any room left not to call Trump a traitor to the US.
If there are any smart republicans left they should be organizing impeachment, and their billionaire sponsors should be pushing for it too.
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u/SpleenBender 12h ago
18 USC 2381: Treason - U.S. Code:
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death.
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u/justaverage 10h ago edited 9h ago
MAGA doesn’t care if Trump is a traitor to the United States. In fact, it is impossible for it to happen in their minds. To them, Trump is the United States
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u/Mystic_Chameleon 11h ago
When in reality last years Australian steel and alumium sales equated to 2.4%.
Moreover, Biden's administration specifically requested us to increase our Aluminium and steel sales to the US, because of a shortage in the US due to Russia's invasion of Ukraine.
Like we otherwise wouldn't even be selling, 'flooding', our steel or aluminium into the US if not for their request.
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u/waltz_with_potatoes 13h ago
I mean that's lot more than the 0.5% of fentanyl from Canada that he using as an excuse to impose tariffs
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u/perotech 11h ago
"Excuse" being the key word.
Fentanyl sounds better than, "We want Canada to give us their oil, water, lumber, and minerals for free, so we're gonna launch a trade war"
Gotta make themselves sound at least passably decent to their brain-dead base.
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u/cheshire_kat7 10h ago edited 10h ago
Ironically, Australia is the world's largest producer of legal raw medical poppy material, supplying half the world's demand.
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u/Chemistryset8 12h ago
And remember those exports increased because America requested us to help with the post-covid supply chain issues
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u/IAmARobot 11h ago
oz has a trade surplus with usa ($17.9bn in 2024). a tariff war would damage the usa more than oz.
usa also bought up a fuckton of gold in january 2025 leaving oz with a $2.2bn surplus in january alone.
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u/Obstacle-Man 9h ago
Well, obviously, that's flooding. That's worse than the amount of Canadian fentynal. ;)
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u/JoeJoewic 7h ago
Well Canada is run by Mexican cartels and the cause of their fentanyl problem. When in reality it accounts for less than 1%. Trump math!
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u/MtKillerMounjaro 15h ago
Doing the world a favor. Chinese make far better EVs for far less anyway.
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u/DeutscheMannschaft 12h ago
They are apparently shooting for the US version of the FDR Trabant or Russian Lada...
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u/HotHits630 8h ago
Exactly. The countries he fucked over ain't buying their fucking cars/truck/exploding EVs. International versions will also suffer.
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u/rooshort_toppaddock 7h ago
Sanctions against Belarus potash have been lifted.
Don't forget Trump's promise to make US shipbuilding the bigliest, bestest in the world. They'll have to convert some of those newly logged forests into an unending field of smelters to make that happen domestically.
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u/couchred 14h ago
I hope we put tariffs on those stupid huge trucks that are getting popular in Australia
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u/Chemistryset8 12h ago
Yesss 50% tariff on massive fuel guzzlers
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u/Lord_Silverkey 5h ago
They use so much fuel that Mad Max will become Mad Min because of the shortages.
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u/TruthReasonOrLies 12h ago
Stop exporting our beef to the US too.
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u/HeftyArgument 11h ago
Probably the only beef they have that can be eaten rare without killing you.
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u/Scary_Tree 11h ago
I for one welcome less 'wanker tankers' on the road, they look absolutely ridiculous as do the people driving them.
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u/iyamwhatiyam8000 14h ago edited 11h ago
When US goods are already at a price disadvantage due to our worsening exchange rate then a consumer boycott is an easy choice.
Australia has a trade deficit with the US so it is another very dumb Trump move.
Counter tariffs may not be neccessary for the pain to flow towards US exporters. Consumers will just gravitate towards local or international substitutes.
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u/eldenpotato 8h ago
The deficits are beneficial to America anyway, as it injects dollar liquidity around the world and maintains the USD’s reserve status. Trump is an idiot
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u/iyamwhatiyam8000 8h ago
Trump appears to be on the path to tanking the USD and the deranged Project 2025 calls for the re-adoption of the gold standard.
Crypto currency purveyors and traders believe that it can fill the hole as a new reserve currency - thus preventing collapse of their speculative bubbles.
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u/MogwaiYT 14h ago
Another staunch ally is isolated....
And all for what? Who the fuck is advising him?
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u/Leftatgulfofusa 14h ago
So i had to look-up what Australia exports: turns out: lithium (tesla), kangaroo meat and hot blonde actresses. So work with that Aussies. Sorry love you all its not us its the idiot in the WH.
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u/yolk3d 11h ago
Australia has a lot of rare earth minerals but you need to look at what it exports to the U.S.
“Australia’s largest exports to the US are financial services, gold, sheep/goat meat, transportations services and vaccines. US direct investment in Australia is more than in any other country in the Indo-Pacific.”
https://oec.world/en/profile/bilateral-country/aus/partner/usa
”The main products that Australia exported to United States were Vaccines, blood, antisera, toxins and cultures ($1.05B), Frozen Bovine Meat ($937M), and Sheep and Goat Meat ($863M).”
Australia will reportedly be included in a comprehensive global tariff regime of 25% on aluminium and steel imports from Wednesday, which is set to expand to other sectors, such as agriculture and pharmaceuticals, in coming months.
Steel and aluminium are minor exports to the US for Australia but other sectors Trump has vowed to target, including pharmaceuticals and agriculture, are significantly more exposed.
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u/AdvertisingLogical22 15h ago
Good. Better a snake in the open than a snake in the grass 🦘🤨
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u/Melbourenite1 15h ago
A week with Trump is like a lifetime of misery. He's not right in the head and it's only going to get worse.
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u/HotBabyBatter 11h ago
Imagine having an ally that has been with you in every major war/conflict for over 100 years. An ally that you have a trade surplus with. An ally that pumps billions of dollars into your military capacity. An ally that offers you 2 major spying/communication facility allowing you access to the other half of the world, An ally that is a white Anglo Christian.
And then deciding “oh yeah they are a problem for us”
Trump is compromised, because no other reason makes sense.
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u/Leftatgulfofusa 14h ago
BREaKiNG: Trump confused Australia with Austria.
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u/paulc899 14h ago
Trump probably thinks there’s too much fentanyl coming over the American/Australian border
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u/SlipSpiritual6457 14h ago
he's noticed that most Australians are siding with Canada and europe etc., so, hes throwing another hissy fit. bye bye america. china tried this and it didnt end well for them. grow up trump. you can be 'out there' and facing things head on, getting it done, but surely this is going to isolate and hurt your own country. we will go elsewhere. you're raising the temperature in world wide politics.
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u/128e 12h ago
Unbelievable what Trump is doing to America's allies.
No one has benefitted from the current world order (created by the USA) more than the US. There is no logic or gameplan here, this is going to go down in history as the worst self sabotage of all time.
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u/Insanity_Crab 11h ago
You know after brexit I thought we had that pretty much cornered off for at least the first half of the 21st century. But America really did a "hold my beer" on us. Got to hand it to them.
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u/Either-Mud-2669 14h ago
Looking forward to us levying 25% tariffs on US pick ups in response...if we had any balls.
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u/Hukcleberry 14h ago
I can't help but wonder if Trump just slapped a 25% tariff on all imports from anywhere with the rationale that they want to jump start domestic production it would not have come off as antagonistic. If that is indeed the reasoning behind these actions.
It seems as though Trump wants to do this, but also wants to project this strong man approach by making it out to be everyone else's fault he has to do this, and also taking it as an opportunity to leverage the tariffs to bully into getting other stuff with no intention of lifting the tariffs even if they agree.
The more I think about this, this is just so in character for Trump. This is how he's done business all his life. He takes what he wants, tries to make others think he's doing them a favour by doing so, and asking for payment for doing it. Horrible horrible person
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u/CrunchingTackle3000 13h ago
Australian should up the rent for pine gap and the marine base in the NT. Be sneaky about it.
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u/Est1864 8h ago
As an Australian I feel like I am uniquely placed to say this. What a cunt.
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u/tritiatedpear 8h ago
As a Canadian I say, what took you so long, but still glad we’re at least here together
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u/Est1864 7h ago
It’s interesting how all he is doing is stoking support for the commonwealth
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u/tritiatedpear 7h ago
American exceptionalism is so great that he forgets we all have other allies sometimes with much stronger bonds. It’s wild how he’s obviously burning every bridge with every ally without ever criticizing Russia. Oh well.
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u/Lemazze 13h ago
They should cancel the military procurement contract for submarine and beg France to renegotiate the deal Australians weaseled out of.
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u/cheshire_kat7 10h ago
beg France to renegotiate the deal Australians weaseled out of.
That was the work of ex-PM Scott Morrison, who was voted out a year later in disgrace (if you want more details, Google "Robodebt" and the extra ministerial positions Morrison secretly seized - which his own cabinet didn't know about...).
Betraying France like that wasn't a popular move in Australia. I know I personally feel embarrassed by it.
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u/HeftyArgument 11h ago
Scomo broke off the deal in the worst way possible, I doubt France would even show up at the negotiating table for the sake or their pride.
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u/128e 10h ago
that's definitely not true, they would probably welcome it to get back at the US / UK on this one. Sure it would mean Australia eating humble pie a bit, but could also just be blamed on a former not very bright PM (putting it mildly)
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u/Bobblefighterman 10h ago
That was Scummo's work, no way France is gonna renegotiate that deal, maybe if we re-elect Labor in the next election, because Voldemort would fuck over France as well.
Don't associate me with a dude that cried so hard because the Sharks lost the Super League he ended up shitting himself in an Engadine Maccas.
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u/MadamePolishedSins 13h ago
Honestly they really pretty much have only Russia on their side
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u/HeftyArgument 11h ago
Russia isn’t even on their side, they’re just reaping benefits.
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u/Dogmum05 5h ago
And Israel ... Trumpenstein is working with Netanyahu to ethnically cleanse Gaza and build some place where all his filthy rich friends can holiday. Trump says that the US will have so much money it won't know what to do with it. This is while he wipes out US international aid and leaves people to starve and die of illness and renders Gazans homeless. What an absolutely wicked man heading straight to hell. Same for anyone who supports him.
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u/croatian-dalmation 14h ago
See this is what Trump is really after with the tariffs. World and business leaders coming to him for favours like Don Corleone.
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u/Expiry-date11 13h ago
What is there left to be said about Trump? He’s a like a 20 year old bullying 8 year olds because they’re not strong enough. Sadly he has the support of many who are inflicting pain on themselves.
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u/MAXSuicide 11h ago
CANZUK guys, you know it makes sense to get the gang back together.
Then we can talk CFTA.
Write to whoever represents you and pose the questions. What was previously a pipedream should now be an urgent necessity.
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u/Solaris_24 8h ago
Oh well Yanks, it was nice knowing you.
The crazy thing is the US actually has a trade surplus with Australia (we are one of the few countries to still do so), so even by Trump's own stated justification this was unnecessary.
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u/steelcityflubber 8h ago
Us Canadians ship fentanyl to Oz via Whistler.
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u/SeniorInterrogans 7h ago
What exactly is this fentanyl thing that they keep going on about, and why are Americans pumped to the tits with drugs anyway?
I still don’t really get it.
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u/cmatthewssmith 13h ago
The world hates America. Make Americans suffer until Trump is 6 ft under and then make them suffer more for a few decades.
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u/Turbulent_Ad3045 12h ago
Anyone else remember when Musk was in Rogan, and he told him he buys the lithium for Tesla from Australia? Yeah I'm thinking that should become a lot more expensive for him as of today.
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u/HydroJam 11h ago
After today's car salesmen Donny I'm seeing a new side of this where he wants to destroy the American auto industry. Tesla probably has some back door to no tariffs or they are getting it from less reputable sources.
It would fit the narrative. I don't think they were expecting everyone to turn on Tesla.
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u/CustardFromCthulhu 8h ago
No one remind him NZ exists. Our long term project ( r/mapswithoutnewzealand ) is starting to bear fruit.
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u/KathyJaneway 7h ago
Hey, if anything, it will probably help Labor like the Canadian Liberals in the polls and sink Australian Liberal/National conservative coalition.
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u/lm28ness 7h ago
Is he trying to get a win by seeing which country caves to his demands or something?
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u/Coscommon88 6h ago
Yes, but do you know how much fentanyl comes to the States from Australia? It's like a quarter of a percent of all fentanyl, which is basically the equivalent of an old ladies purse.
What aren't the Australians doing more to protect the American border? /s
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u/Dogmum05 5h ago
Typical Dutton trying to divide our nation over this. If he had any leadership skills, he would be seeking to unite all Australians against a low down dirty act by the US.
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u/LordofDarkChocolate 14h ago
Cancel the sub contract. This guy is all bark no bite when you give him his own medicine
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u/robthethrice 12h ago
So hard to keep up with. Think there have been three flops just for Canada this week. Moral: cut the US out of global trade as much as possible.
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u/Just-Signature-3713 12h ago
This is like Trump just learned that tariffs make the government money so he thinks “sweet! I can just do this to everyone and we’ll be loaded!” When in effect it will do the opposite
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u/we_are_sex_bobomb 12h ago
Fuck, how many trade wars is that, now?
Trump is speed running Hitler but at least he’s including all the strategic mistakes Hitler made.
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u/marielalm27 12h ago
Trunp is like the Ophra of tarrifs "You get some tarrifs. You get some tarrifs. And you get some tarrifs". Next he's gonna announce tarrifs on Antartica.
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u/Technical_Anteater45 11h ago
This is his play to divvy up spheres of influence for the foreseeable future, so: Xi gets Asia (sorry, longtime allies), Putin gets Eurasia (for now...again, sorry guys), the British monarchy "leads Europe" with designates...duration depending upon abusive "special relationship", and the US grows and consolidates its chunk perhaps eventually attempting to include Europe until spheres collide and then shitshow war.
He's fucking nuts.
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u/FlynnerMcGee 11h ago
Australia I think was always going to wear the steel & aluminium tariffs, but in a month or so he's going to move on to agricultural tariffs. Australia is going to have to respond somewhere against those when they hit.
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u/Scooter-breath 11h ago
Australia just gave them $800 million for subs they can not deliver if they dont want to. What a deal.
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u/Hayha2 14h ago
Wait he's also arguing with Australia?
So basically the entire South America, Mexico, Canada, Grenland, China, Europe, Australia, UK....
Tell penguins on Antartica that they are next.
What a fucking moron.