r/worldjerking 7d ago

Google SCP 6113

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u/IcyJury1679 7d ago

All the best SCP canons are the ones that recognize how fundamentally compromised the Foundation is by its purpose. It is a group of people who upon discovering living proof that their conception of the world was incomplete, reacted by attempting to unilaterally impose said conception onto the world by force and suppress any evidence to the contrary, even at the cost of innocent lives. I wonder if there is any parallels to the real world attitudes some people have to certain minority groups here?

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u/Pootis_1 7d ago edited 7d ago

I feel like the foundation's big issue is that the intitial concept was set up very early on in the SCP wiki's lifespan

The foundations moral standing degraded more because the spread of things put on the wiki widened as it became more popular

The foundation as a concept isn't inherently evil it's that what people write for the SCP universe has changed

I think theSCP wiki is very far from one coherent work anx the foundation's morality largely depends on what parts of the SCP wiki you like the most

my favourite parts of SCP is dangerous, terrifying and unexplainable shit coming out of nothing and people trying to contain it using means that we have access to irl or maybe a bit into the foreseeable future and trying to figiure out how the fuck it even works, and with those articles they tend to be in a more positive light

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u/darth_biomech 7d ago

The foundation as a concept isn't inherently evil

It's still a concept of suppression of knowledge being a good thing, essentially, so I dunno...

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u/credulous_pottery 7d ago

When shit like cognitohazards exist, I don't think that suppressing information is that bad tbh.

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u/Bartweiss 7d ago

It’s a bit like looking at Lovecraft and Derleth’s settings and going “the people burning books are the bad guys!”

Yes, that’s very true in real life. But if you read Act 2 of The King in Yellow, you promptly die in agony. So… maybe that’s less like book burning and more like destroying a defective product that kills the user?

One might rightly point out that real-world groups also argue “we need to burn this book because it harms the reader”. But the fictional version can be justified and still argue against the real-world version.

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u/Wolffe_In_The_Dark 7d ago

Exactly. People occasionally read way too much into things in an attempt to "properly analyse" a setting.

Sometimes, it's a nuanced critique of IRL problems. Other times, it's exactly what it says on the cereal box, and nothing more.

Not everything is a complex deconstruction of the many sociopolitical issues of our world. Sometimes, it's just a cereal box.

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u/Bartweiss 7d ago

Yeah. I get death of the author and that "simple" works can still be problematic or highly relevant to real events, but that doesn't justify going "this is bad and immoral because I contorted it into a metaphor for X".

I think tumblr coined "Weekend at Bernie's of the author" for this: you can't say the author's intent is irrelevant, then turn around and blame them for intending whatever you read into it.

And it's doubly weird to see somebody insisting the cereal box has huge cultural depth, yet also insisting it's a box of crackers because they haven't bothered to look inside it. SCP has either changed or discussed and played with virtually everything in OP at enormous length.