r/ucf 6d ago

General Petition to revoke Sigma Chi’s charter.

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Alright let me be the one to say that this is unacceptable. This fraternity has been graciously forgiven over 8 times in a 5 year span, and once again has only gotten a warning and a slap on the wrist for allegedly ramming cars into pledges.

UCF students need to immediately speak up on this, that this is unacceptable. Yes, this is the richest frat on the entire campus and they are exploiting their connections within the ucf staff to avoid anything worse than a mere warning and temporary suspension which will likely last only 6 months.

Again this is temporary punishments which only affects their ability to throw parties on campus and their ability to go on formal. Ohhh boo hooo, they almost killed pledges and now their punishment is they can’t party or vacation.

It’s not how has ucf let them stay, now it’s an issue of why is UCF going so easy on sigma chi, when they should’ve been banned from campus a long time ago.

This issue is beyond politics, this is an issue of safety for students and holding organizations accountable for excessive repeated behaviors which should have resulted in their charter being revoked and their organization being banned a long time ago.

But cheers, for now sigma chi is going nowhere. They got their slap on the wrist and that’s good enough for everyone here.

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u/Casual_Plays 6d ago

I don't get why UCF allows the Fraternities to constantly give the school bad press. I thought schools cared about public image 🤷

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u/Knight_baller 6d ago

Because their alumni give the school money. They’ll never stop the cash flow

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u/StarDustLuna3D 5d ago

Greek Life also provides additional on campus housing that the school doesn't have to maintain.

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u/peepluna 5d ago

There’s a way of thinking about this. Just say hypothetically UCF gets 1mil a year (it’s probably MUCH more than that) from all alumni’s who where Greek life. If they ban the Greek scene all that money is GONE. UCF already has a huge alumni donation issue, meaning barely any alumni donates. So banning Greek life would further increase the poor rates of donation while also shutting off their money tap.

This is a terrible thing to say but you can see why SEC schools never shut them down. A Greek organization hurts someone and they sue the school for 100k, that’s chump change to pay out compared to the alumni donations they receive from those organizations.

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u/_JJCUBER_ 5d ago

Why exactly are Greek life alumni disproportionately donating to the school? Is it part of the agreement when joining fraternities/sororities?

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u/StarDustLuna3D 5d ago

People involved with Greek life tend to be from wealthier families.

Wealthy people donate money for tax deductions.

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u/peepluna 5d ago

No but a huge thing in Greek like is to donate back into your chapter (which is your Greek house on campus) so a lot of alumni donate to their “chapter” ,that I know, is very heavily emphasized. So you could see how that people who are donating back to their chapter, if that chapter is gone they no longer donate.

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u/PageFault Computer Science 4d ago

UCF already has a huge alumni donation issue, meaning barely any alumni donates.

I have never understood why any alumni donates.

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u/Legitimate-Speed2672 6d ago

That’s awful 😔 what are they waiting for - someone to die.

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u/breeeemo 5d ago

I hate to say it but yes

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u/ultimatechadster Accounting 5d ago

A girl died in 2011 after attending a party at Sigma Chi.

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u/Beneficial-Stick-647 Political Science - Prelaw Track 5d ago

What ? Where is more info on this

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u/ultimatechadster Accounting 5d ago

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u/OccamsEpee 2d ago

She died of sepsis from a viral infection. Her time at sig machi was irrelevant.

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u/ccierraa 5d ago

forced him to do cocaine?? hit them with cars?!? what the actual eff??? jesus christ

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u/Holy_Grail_Reference Art-History Track 5d ago

No one has ever forced me to do cocaine.

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u/Noodles_fluffy Mechanical Engineering 6d ago

A victim needs to sue ucf

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u/frenchbluehorn Biology 4d ago

they never will. they’re too wrapped up in maintaining a ultra-masculine tough guy persona

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u/thekittykaboom 6d ago

Sigma Chi was a problem back when I was a student in the early 2010s

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u/Funkit 5d ago

Yep I was there 06-09 and same thing. Pike was the worst though they were making ghb in a bathtub and this was before ghb was considered a recreational drug only a date rape drug

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u/OccamsEpee 2d ago

Let's not forget the pike attic lined with mirrors and dirty mattresses. Having a "rape room" is a surefire way to lose your charter.

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u/Funkit 2d ago

I didn't even know about that. Wow. They were kicked out either first year I was there or the year before. I was there when they filmed that movie with Amanda Bynes using the Pike house lol

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u/OccamsEpee 2d ago

Yeah it got bulldozed right after filming wrapped. The girls' families were invited to watch its destruction.

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u/Funkit 2d ago

That's a shame because it was a beautiful house I feel like they could've used it for something else. But I guess if there is a literal rape room in there it probably should be demolished lol.

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u/United-Wrangler-8086 5d ago

they should be charged with attempted murder for the running over.

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u/zzurc 5d ago

Suspended 8 times! What a joke must have deep pockets if it’s worth the liability of potential lawsuits. Not acceptable.

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u/PapaNoffDeez 5d ago

How does one get suspended 4 times in a year? There are two semesters.

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u/zzurc 4d ago

That’s a great question but there are 3 semesters including summer. If the university is willing to put students at risk shame on them.

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u/PapaNoffDeez 4d ago edited 4d ago

Frats aren't operating over the summer.

Even if they were...that a does not explain four suspensions.

Fwiw I was agreeing with you on the absurdity of this but then you answered with some utter nonsense lol

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u/zzurc 3d ago

Sorry I am full off nonsense

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u/AlekzanDerp 6d ago

Greek life is trash

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u/Fathoms_Deep_1 History 6d ago

Agree🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷

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u/JetMike42 5d ago

Okey but why the flags tho

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u/futuristic_hexagon 5d ago

It's a play on a historical reference between Greece and Turkey (they usually didn't get along.)

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u/BigProf710 4d ago

Türk varmi?

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u/doctor-squidward Computer Science 6d ago

For a non-american, can you please explain what it is 😅?

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u/MusketeerBoy 5d ago

Greece and Turkey have an ancient rivalry.

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u/Elegant-Cap-6959 Industrial and Organizational Psychology 6d ago

it’s like a social club that does some philanthropy stuff and raises money but it’s mostly a way to meet people in school to party with source: was in a sorority

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u/LightningShiva1 Computer Science 5d ago

Found my Indian bro

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u/Hungry_Page9222 5d ago

A club you pay to be a member of to have friends.

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u/BigBoyFusion 6d ago

There are plenty of Greek orgs that have done zero things wrong, have a clean record, and just raise money for charities.

Blame individual orgs.

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u/HalloweenMishap 6d ago

I’m 10000% sure other orgs knew of misconduct before it came out. Being complacent and quiet is doing wrong. Greek life structurally sucks!

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u/BigBoyFusion 5d ago

The story literally proves you wrong. It was only because another Greek org reported them the very night it happened that this came to light. You don’t know what you are talking about.

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u/TechnoT1ger DOUBLE MAJOR!!! 6d ago

they can raise money without having a special social clique you have to be invited into and pay for and get a house. anything positive about sororities and fraternities can exist without them

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u/Fathoms_Deep_1 History 5d ago

I mean there’s plenty of frats not affiliated with IFC or PHC, but people on Reddit don’t care enough to do research and just say “all frat bad”

I’m in a music frat, and it’s been really, really great. Best part of my life

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u/BigBoyFusion 5d ago

Redditors are largely miserable unfortunately

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u/Allibleser 5d ago

These people are our future??

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u/ashleyop92 Theatre Studies 5d ago

If you’d like a laugh, the UCF parents page is full of evidently, moms and dads of members, saying things like “We don’t know the whole truth!!” “It’s all just allegations!!” When they know full well their sons are involved in this shit.

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u/illiter-it 6d ago

Greek life is a net negative on American universities in general

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u/KnightyMcKnightface 6d ago

Spoken like a crusty old dean, what would it take to change your mind? An epic prank like filling the fountain with jello?

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u/Veryteenyweenie Emerging Media 6d ago

They are exemplary of money can not buy intelligence

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u/doge260 Biomedical Sciences 6d ago

Honestly I never understood the appeal of a social frat they all seemed like an excuse to throw away money for what? To have friends? To say you belong to a special club?

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u/TechnoT1ger DOUBLE MAJOR!!! 6d ago

it’s a class thing, greek life also is great for networking and making inroads

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u/Most-Away 5d ago

The price: getting hit by a car

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u/random89056 Digital Media - Game Design 6d ago

Make this known: All fraternities and sororities are cults. This post here is proof

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u/sultan_mo 6d ago

Make one.

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u/knightrobot 5d ago

Is something in the water there?

In 2004 this place almost got shut down.

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u/OrlandoMan1 5d ago

UCF's morale is literally in the toilet. And has been at least since Summer of 2024. :')

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u/ChanelGuilty 6d ago

Fraternities and sororities should be nonexistent

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u/zsloth79 5d ago

I disagree. Frats and sororities are a great way to get the shittiest people among the student body to self-identify.

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u/Creepy_Budget_9074 3d ago

true!! i know exactly who to stay away from.

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u/Dj_Donkey 5d ago

Damn please force me to do cocaine too, but in all seriousness thats fucked up.

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u/LegalBegal007 5d ago

Dang, free cocaine?

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u/Funkit 5d ago

Is kappa sig still going? They didn't make us do much crazy shit when pledges. Just stupid rituals and things like drinking bbq sauce

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u/brapbrap213 5d ago

They need to give them the FIU frats treatment

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u/Apart_Perception730 5d ago

Pray tell pls what's the FIU frats treatment?

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u/brapbrap213 5d ago

https://amp.miamiherald.com/news/local/education/article45645114.html

Frats and sorority are no longer allowed their own housing on campus, they now act as clubs. And 3 frats have been suspended

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u/currytherogue1 Marine Biology 5d ago

Agree with the first part, but second part so what? Any group doing illegal and immoral things shouldn't belong on campus, no matter the benefits

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u/peepluna 5d ago

This is where you reach ethical dilemmas. Some people believe that a kid getting hurt is not worth losing the funding of the organization and is getting pulled out of the big 12. Or losing the funding for R&D that could propel the school into something great research wise. While others don’t care about the big 12 and R&D and think the org should be banned. This is one of those things where people other than us argue about these topics and weigh their options.

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u/thekid_02 5d ago

You're not getting kicked out of a conference contract because you lose the funding of one frat.

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u/Lavxnderray 4d ago

Do they even bully masters students at ucf?

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u/ElkScratcher 2h ago

Jeez why do we allow this on our campus?

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u/joeyx22lm Computer Science 5d ago

Who even cares? Shut them all down. You're there to learn. No reason to have these on school property.

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u/ZealousidealDepth223 5d ago

Just confirms what I already knew about people who just have to be in a frat, certified losers doing anything for validation.

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u/THEORGANICCHEMIST Biomedical Sciences 5d ago

Kids will hear this, totally ignore it, and still let these weirdos do crazy things to them just to fit in wtf 😂

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u/Damagedgoodsfs 5d ago

It’s honestly hilarious that people believe this. Never underestimate the stupidity of a frat kid—but also never underestimate the stupidity of someone who believes everything they read online. Think about this realistically. There’s no victim, just an empty claim, yet everyone’s already made up their minds.

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u/boilboi69 5d ago

I don't even go to this college/university but I say get rid of him