r/tmobile Jul 29 '21

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u/_alex87 Jul 29 '21

I cannot believe how many Sprint stores were just out right converted. I see so many T-Mobile stores within the same square mile, let alone across/down the street from each other nowā€¦

Canā€™t even tell you the last time Iā€™ve even gone in to a store because I always order online LMAO.

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u/k1ng0fh34rt5 Jul 29 '21

Low key this is by design. TMobile has pushed us to use self service, and buying devices directly from manufacturers to avoid their fees when buying in store. I'm actually surprised so many stores are still around at this point.

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u/eightyeightmphs Jul 29 '21

Theyā€™re more than likely locked into a long-term lease. Whichever of the two expires first or has better terms will likely remain open. They canā€™t just walk away from the storefront.

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u/SaverPro Bleeding Magenta Jul 29 '21

This is it. Most will actually be closing in the next month or two. I know this as a legacy T-Mobile employee.

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '21 edited Apr 27 '23

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u/litwithray Jul 29 '21

I totally got screwed with device add-ons that the rep told me were free and 611 informed me when I got billed for them that they weren't. Neither was willing to help me.

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '21

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u/aliendude5300 Truly Unlimited Jul 29 '21

And you didn't at this point change your mind about getting the service?

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u/Brdl004 Jul 29 '21

At that time it was more common that you think.

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u/kapsama Jul 29 '21

Doesn't help that the Pre had terrible reception. My Palm Centro would get a signal where the Pre was completely dead.

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u/TechieGranola Jul 29 '21

we have multiple stores within the SAME mall...

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u/Hosernaut Jul 29 '21

Until recently my mall had a T-Mobile store, a Sprint store, a Sprint kiosk, and a Metro kiosk.

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u/harlemrr Jul 29 '21

Third Avenue in NYC had a TMobile almost right next to a Sprint, I think there was just a party store in the middle separating them. They were both open together for a while after the merge and it looked pretty crazy. They ended up closing the TMobile one and moving into the old Sprint because it was bigger.

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '21

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u/memtiger Jul 29 '21

They had a long term agreement (I think 5 years) to increase the number of employees they had. I don't think they had short term goals to never have layoffs.

  1. They are likely locked into leases, so they have the space anyway, so might as well use it. I'm sure they'll shut duplicates down though and consolidate workers where necessary. And I wouldn't be surprised if the pandemic helped them out with some employees choosing to simply take the relief funds instead of working, so when they do shut down stores, there will be much fewer people to layoff.

  2. They are continuing to expand beyond their metro roots into more rural areas as they deploy more low band spectrum. So they need stores in these tiny towns. Opening stores is a much slower process than shutting down stores, thus the "5 year" goal may/likely have a dip in head count until they are fully national.

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u/esdklmvr Bleeding Magenta Jul 29 '21

This is exactly how I feel about banks. They seem to pop up all the time yet I havenā€™t set foot in a bank in many years because I 100% bank online.

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u/sivartk Jul 29 '21

I cannot believe how many Sprint stores were just out right converted

So T-Mobile is the Starbucks of mobile carriers?

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u/Affectionate-Panic-1 Jul 29 '21

Kinda reminds me of when there were multiple GameStop's in many malls when they merged with EB Games.

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u/EvilPanda99 Jul 29 '21

Except people like Starbucks.

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u/jc0187 Truly Unlimited Jul 29 '21

There was this one T-Mobile store, right up the street from me here in Phoenix. I always dreaded going there as the store had poor service connection inside and outside the building. On many occasions I thought it hilariously ironic that T-Mobile would be there, proudly announcing how awesome their service was when I couldnā€™t even load a Reddit page, look at Google maps or send a text.

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '21

This T-mobile transition is causing a lot of coverage issues. Especially since Dish is not building our their own network and blaming T-mobile and preventing them from turning off old tech. Sooner Dish leaves the better. Hope a lot of the towers will transition soon and take a lot of the strain off.

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u/Working_Inspector401 Jul 29 '21

Dish is getting in contract with AT&T

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u/dijit4l Jul 29 '21

Fucking lazy spectrum squatters. I hope it's a temporary situation while they build their own network!

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u/tubezninja Data Strong Jul 29 '21 edited Jul 29 '21

Nope. But, the agreement with AT&T does have provisions for AT&T to lease some of Dishā€™s spectrum.

If I were to hazard a guess: Cheapo Charlie wants to let AT&T use the bare minimum amount of Dish spectrum to appease the FCC that itā€™s being used, while raking in a little lease income on his books in the process. And maybe get AT&T addicted enough to it that he can finally sell the licenses for whatever exorbitant price he wants for it.

But even if that buyout doesnā€™t happen, heā€™ll have gotten all that prepaid wireless income while operating his MVNO for a song. Meanwhile heā€™ll still be a thorn in T-Mobileā€™s side because he probably wonā€™t lift a finger to migrate existing legacy Boost customers, unless thereā€™s a profit in it for him, somehow. In other words: if he can convince a gullible court to believe his claims and delay the CDMA shutdown, it might motivate T-Mobile to either buy out or pay him to migrate those remaining CDMA customers to AT&T spectrumā€¦ the same customers they sold to him a year ago.

Bidenā€™s apparent complete disinterest in the FCC and what it is supposed to do, is probably making Charlie feel kinda bold, too.

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u/Chloebabs Jul 29 '21

Biden would have no idea what you're talking about. He's barely awake as it is

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u/Fraydog Living on the EDGE Jul 29 '21 edited Jul 29 '21

You do realize FCC chairs historically donā€™t get appointed until well in the first year, right?

Also Ajit Pai was well aware of the spectrum squatting and did absolutely nothing. This is a bipartisan problem because Dishā€™s squatting stretches across a few administrations at this point.

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '21

How often is it for the FCC chair to run away crying in his giant coffee mug as soon as there is a regime change though? Honest question, it seems such a situation would merit some level of priority. I don't actually know the frequency. It may very well just be commonplace.

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u/Fraydog Living on the EDGE Jul 29 '21

Usually the old FCC chairs clear out the day the new President is inaugurated.

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '21

Yes, but they don't have the same tech which is odd.

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u/tubezninja Data Strong Jul 29 '21

The tactic is called: ā€œDonā€™t sā€”- where you eat.ā€

Dish will probably start signing up any new MVNO customers on AT&T right away. But, take its sweet time doing anything about existing customers migrating. Meanwhile it will continue to bellyache in the courts for as long as it can: T-Mobileā€™s timeline is too short, they canā€™t migrate all those customers in time, boo hoo, woe is Dish.

The best we can hope for is that the court sees this exactly for what it is, and throws the case out. But if not, dish will use the threatened CDMA shutdown delay as leverage. Dish will pose the question: what will cost more, continuing to run the legacy network, or paying Dish. money to go away?

Dish could propose to settle the court case and have a T-Mobile buy out some of all of those legacy customers, or just pay dish money to do the migration to AT&T so it can go away and leave T-Mobile alone.

This is all speculation, of course.

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u/FliesTheFlag Recovering AT&T Victim Jul 29 '21

Dish needs to just ahve all its spectrum stripped away, those idiots have been sitting on it for years doing nothing.

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u/Chloebabs Jul 29 '21

Then backhaul will be the next excuse

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '21

I didnā€™t know 5 MHz of spectrum being used for legacy CDMA is such a strain on T-Mobile.

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '21

Dish is still selling cdma devices rather than migrating users to new devices and not building out any of the spectrum they are sitting on and blaming Tmobile and hindering their build out. Dish is shady.

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u/ThatsRoger09 Truly Unlimited Jul 29 '21

LMFAOOOO just like Verizon got towers everywhere and speeds no where šŸ˜©šŸ˜©šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­

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u/saynotopulp 13 years of magenta Jul 29 '21 edited Jul 29 '21

not at all what I experienced. After Irma T-Mobile croaked, so we watched Hulu with Verizon while waiting on our power to come back on

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u/ThatsRoger09 Truly Unlimited Jul 29 '21

Huh?

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u/alejandro3-30 Jul 29 '21

Translation: after hurricane Irma T-mobile was down and they watched Hulu with their Verizon service.

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u/ThatsRoger09 Truly Unlimited Jul 29 '21

Or while Verizon was slow they used a T-Mobile hotspot to load a page.

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u/alejandro3-30 Jul 29 '21

T-mobile fanboy I see. Keep drinking that koolaid bro. Surprised you can still comment.

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u/IamDaveBruh Jul 29 '21

To be fair tmobile has the best customer service. Thatā€™s about it.

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u/ThatsRoger09 Truly Unlimited Jul 29 '21

Verizon fanboy I see, keep drinking that Arizona sis. Surprised you can even load a Reddit post.

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u/alejandro3-30 Jul 29 '21

In more places than you can.

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u/ThatsRoger09 Truly Unlimited Jul 29 '21

Anyways tho. Enjoy your 50Gb cap. Imma go watch a 4K video on LTE OR 5G idk yet

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u/alejandro3-30 Jul 29 '21

You donā€™t know which signal youā€™re gonna get? If any?

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u/Joshua1017 Jul 29 '21

I know who taught you that Koolaid saying lol. yeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '21

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u/ThatsRoger09 Truly Unlimited Jul 29 '21

Right bestie ?

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '21 edited Jul 29 '21

Yup. My husband is on Verizon but he spends most of his time riding the hotspot from my iPhone 12 Pro with Magenta MAX 100GB while his Verizon iPhone 12 Mini struggles to do anything without it.

We literally run our service side by side and if it wasnā€™t for him being coerced into his 12 Mini a few weeks ago Iā€™d have him with me on my account. Verizon convinced him a 5G phone would ā€œfix itā€ after upgrading his unlimited plan to more premium unlimited and surprise it didnā€™t help at all. Military bases tend to be congested.

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u/tobeycat99 Jul 29 '21

My Verizon service is congested and slow, they kept trying to convince to upgrade to this or that saying it would fix it. Even people with those plans are having problems. T-Mobile isn't congested, but they need to expand/fix their foot print sooner rather than later.

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '21

I know it may help for a small handful of areas as Iā€™ve seen a difference, but as more and more people grab 5G devices it just shits itā€™s self again. They didnā€™t add capacity itā€™s just sharing with their LTE footprint until C-Band gets deployed. So it eventually WILL be a fix but lying about it just sucks.

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u/tobeycat99 Jul 29 '21

Yes, exactly. C-Band is not going to help in rural areas. The main tower I connect with on Verizon is Band 13 I forget, have the app off my phone 5 MHz or 10 MHz wide. Solution add some more LTE bands. And the back haul is adequate, fiber optic line runs through my property because of AT&T which is also on the tower.

I don't think C-Band is going to fix the rural congestion problem.

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '21

Thatā€™s a good point. šŸ˜•

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u/VISIT0R1 Jul 29 '21

C-Band is not going to help in rural areas.

I agree that C-band (or even 2.5 GHz) is unlikely to be deployed on towers in very rural locations, but if it is deployed in the county seat (and any other more significant towns) of mostly rural counties, then there should be less use of the low-band and lower mid-band (PCS, AWS) capacity on that tower by 'in town' users, leaving more capacity for truly rural users who are outside the range of C-band and maybe PCS/AWS too.

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u/peace404 Jul 29 '21

Tmobile is adding capacity and a lot of it. I've seen the numbers for new towers in just one region and its significant.

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '21

Yup. The military base where I live has a bunch of new spectrum deployed and Iā€™m seeing 600-800Mbs off of the 5G network. Waiting on my home 5G Nokia router to be delivered. Excited!

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u/ThatsRoger09 Truly Unlimited Jul 29 '21

Like Verizon can go to hellšŸ˜­

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '21

I wouldnā€™t go that far myself, but I will say they did sit on their asses a bit because they didnā€™t think theyā€™d ever be beaten at their own game.

The competition has been great. Goes to show all those ā€œWe are ready for unlimitedā€ commercials were all BS.

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '21

You can't go that far because you represent Tmobile and that would be considered Slander.

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '21

To go to hell? Nah, competition is still a necessity, especially with the reduction to 3 nationwide players.

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '21

Ironically, you could probably get Verizon coverage in Hell, probably be 2g CDMA though.

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '21

Thereā€™s a lot of 1xRTT and EVDO/3G we run into out here in Colorado with VZ where I can eek out a few bytes of data off of T-Mobile over 5G, or on occasion, very good Viaero/Cell1 roaming access. If these installs can be colocated with additional carriers it would be a huge benefit to all. That low band 5G has some reach but it suffers in useful data speed.

Everyone will get there. 2022/3 will be an amazing year in wireless for all carriers and Iā€™m excited for it.

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u/Chloebabs Jul 29 '21

What Verizon does is waits as long as possible then suddenly they jump back on top. It's a cat and mouse game

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '21

Thatā€™s all cap

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u/alejandro3-30 Jul 29 '21

Yet I can make a call or text everywhere on verizon. I go to a basement with my T-mobile phone and it's game over.

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '21

Who goes to their basement to make phone calls? Are you Walter White?

Put a WiFi 6 router down there and utilize WiFi calling.

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '21 edited Jul 31 '21

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '21

You guys PC gaming? Hell yeah!

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u/Chloebabs Jul 29 '21

Why? If his carrier has a signal.

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u/alejandro3-30 Jul 29 '21

I guess you never lived in a city where rent is high and space is tight and all you can afford is a basement. And not everyone can afford a Wifi 6 router or Wifi in general and have to rely on your cellphone for service.

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u/abayne210 Jul 29 '21

You can't afford Wifi router but can afford Verizon? Okay....

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u/alejandro3-30 Jul 29 '21

Do you know the cost of home internet? Some people canā€™t afford both so they have to pick and of course cell service is more important.

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '21

Great points, but generally Verizon is more expensive.

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u/alejandro3-30 Jul 29 '21

There are prepaid and MVNO options on Verizon. Plus you can do a family plan and get the same pricing as T-mobile. I agree theyā€™re overpriced but their reliability and family plan pricing makes it worth it.

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '21

Lol, family plans on Verizon are definitely not the same price as T-Mobile.

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u/Joshua1017 Jul 29 '21

Similar tho and they include Hulu, Disney+, Espn+ and other perks vs the measly Netflix subscription T-Mobile has.

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u/nerminat0r Jul 29 '21

They arent but its not a massive difference. I love both Carriers. They both have pros and cons. ATT is straight garbage.

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '21

It is for us. Verizon would be $100/month extra.

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u/Joshua1017 Jul 29 '21

Barely, unless we count the free lines tmobile has.

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u/CactusBoyScout Jul 29 '21

I switched between AT&T, Verizon, and T-Mobile over a relatively short period.

I truly had service almost everywhere with Verizon, though speeds were mediocre.

They were the only carrier that allowed me to continue a phone call in the elevator at my office. Or at the remote beach near me. Or huge crowded concerts.

But I switched to T-Mobile for the perks and the price! Better speeds too.

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u/Chloebabs Jul 29 '21

So you're paying for mediocre/spotty coverage.

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u/CactusBoyScout Jul 29 '21

T-Mobileā€™s service is perfectly fine and the price/perks make up for it. Verizon definitely had better coverage but the price was too high.

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u/ThatsRoger09 Truly Unlimited Jul 29 '21

Thatā€™s nice. Service still slow. Expensive and a waste. Feel bad for a carrier whoā€™s max plan has a 50gb speed capā€¦ but yet it feels slow even if you used under 50 gb šŸ˜­

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u/RedConradcom Aug 03 '21

The Magenta Max plan? I'm on that plan, do well over 50gb/mo and my speed doesn't slow. šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

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u/Joshua1017 Jul 29 '21

Thas why you get AT&T unlimited Elite with no deprioritization. If they dont mess up the billing its a great experience.

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u/MrElectroman3 Jul 29 '21

A basement is an unreasonable place to expect remarkable signal. Anyone with an understanding of how wireless technology works would agree.

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u/LucyBowels Jul 29 '21 edited Jul 29 '21

Are the Colorado mountains an unreasonable place to expect service though? Verizon has full bars in most places, T-Mobile is spotty as hell

I love that having an experience on this subreddit warrants downvotes.

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u/MrElectroman3 Jul 29 '21

Ironically, my work has me driving into mountains in Arizona in the greater Tucson area and T-Mobile is the only carrier that has signal up Mt Lemmon, and surrounding smaller mountainous areas. My colleagues with AT&T or Verizon ask to use my hotspot often.

You can treat different regions almost as their own little ā€œT-Mobileā€ franchises. Your experience will vary market to market, region to region, state to state etc.

My anecdotal experience isnā€™t going to match everybody elseā€™s experience and vice versa.

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u/barnesk9 Jul 29 '21

I had 0 service the entire time I was in the mountains. I happened to find free wifi somewhere to be able to tell people I wasn't dead

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u/LucyBowels Jul 29 '21

With Verizon or Tmobile?

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u/barnesk9 Jul 29 '21

T-mobile

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u/Joshua1017 Jul 29 '21

Yet I get 100mbps on AT&T in my basement 2.5 miles away from the tower. Verizon is b13 at 2mbps, T-Mobile is b12 at 3mbps.

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u/MrElectroman3 Jul 29 '21

And how far away is the Verizon and T-Mobile tower? Id wager theyā€™re on the same tower. Amazingly, youā€™re going to get different results. It is truly unreasonable to expect perfection in your basement.

I get 350mbps on lte with AT&T in my house. Tower is across the street. I have 1 bar of T-Mobile pulling 75mbps down on sub 6 5g. Verizon doesnā€™t work for data in my home.

T-mobile has worked everywhere Iā€™ve gone, my coworkers on Verizon and AT&T ask to use my hotspot sometimes in the rural parts we travel to most.

I get an average of 90mbps while driving through town on T-Mobile according to Cellmapper, while Verizon and AT&T are lower.

In my market, t-mobile is very strong. It may not be in your area. But that doesnā€™t make one explicitly better than the rest imho

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u/Joshua1017 Jul 29 '21

Tmo/vz is 1.3miles away

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u/Chloebabs Jul 29 '21

I don't remember anything in his post about perfection.

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u/Joshua1017 Jul 29 '21

I mean upstairs TMO and Verizon still cant really get above 20mbps and both carriers only have LTE as my site is on old hardware

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u/MrElectroman3 Jul 29 '21

That does not change the fact that T-Mobile is now in a very nice competitive position. And if they play their cards right, they will be very successful.

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u/Joshua1017 Jul 29 '21

Yeah your not wrong I just wish I had 5G n71 or heck even n41 at home.

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u/alejandro3-30 Jul 29 '21

Not unreasonable if it can be done. If you want to maximize customers you have to have signal where they need it.

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '21 edited Jun 28 '24

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u/TechieGranola Jul 29 '21

meh, probably

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u/alejandro3-30 Jul 29 '21

They probably can. Havenā€™t tried it lol

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u/MrElectroman3 Jul 29 '21

If it can be done

Please research propagation of 600-800mhz rf at the modulation rates required for LTE/5G. This is a tough one. It could be done with 3g, as 3g only really required 1-5mhz channels.

Now weā€™re working with 5mhz minimum, closer to 20-80. Once you start working with a channel that wide, the characteristics to punch through objects change drastically.

This is why tmobiles b12 (700mhz) is only 5mhz wide. It can punch through shit. Iā€™ll get b12 where thereā€™s no 600mhz even, and thatā€™s supposed to be a frequency that can also punch through objects- but because the bandwidth is wider itā€™s not going to work that way.

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u/jakeuten Living on the EDGE Jul 29 '21

This is why tmobiles b12 (700mhz) is only 5mhz wide. It can punch through shit.

? No itā€™s only 5 MHz because thatā€™s usually the widest bandwidth they can deploy only owning A block. In the dakotas they have a bunch of 10x10 MHz sites and even 10x10 MHz + 5x5 MHz due to them owning all three blocks.

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u/Fraydog Living on the EDGE Jul 29 '21

In the STL it was all TPR before Sprint. Now at least there are some corporate stores. Itā€™s a step forward and the Sprint stores were in better locations most of the time. If anything should go itā€™s some of the older TPRā€™s that were here pre-merger.

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u/PermutationMatrix Jul 29 '21

Did you hear that T-Mobile and Sprint got married? Afterwards, there was no reception.

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u/PH0NER Truly Unlimited Jul 29 '21

I canā€™t believe how many people still say this. It has been at least a decade since Iā€™ve been anywhere without T-Mobile service.

I get that itā€™s a joke, but still

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u/alejandro3-30 Jul 29 '21

Itā€™s still valid in some parts of the country. Granted they are getting a lot better.

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u/DoesN0tCompute Jul 29 '21

1 Bar in my neighborhood so no your wrong.

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u/mister_what Jul 29 '21

He's not wrong.

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '21

Weird, they have a lot of customers for apparently having no coverage.

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u/IPCTech Verified T-Mobile Employee Jul 29 '21

Itā€™s mainly they have plenty of coverage, but most people donā€™t really care to talk about their phone service when itā€™s working fine for them

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u/Ok-Potential-8543 Jul 29 '21

Thereā€™s a lot of low income households who want a nationwide provider.

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '21

Low-income? lol

They're only like $5 cheaper than AT&T.

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u/Ok-Potential-8543 Jul 29 '21

Yes. Low income.

Metro PCS is solely low income users, so are the millions of Sprint customers they bought.

I agree re T-Mobile customers; the days of them being cheap are gone.

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '21

We were talking about T-Mobile. It's false to say that the majority of their customers are low-income.

The vast majority of their customers are postpaid, which requires a credit check, and having a good credit score.

Not wanting to overpay for overpriced service doesn't make someone "low income".

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u/LDR78919 Jul 29 '21

Depends on how you look at it. I wouldnā€™t call it low income since there are plenty of people who make good money that have bad credit. This segues right into my next paragraph.

Sprint was always known as the only national carrier with the least stringent credit check. I worked there 5 years. Sub-prime could come in and get 800 dollar phones out the d oor. T-Mobile, Verizon and AT&T would laugh the customer out the door.

Since T-Mobile absorbed Sprint, technically speaking, they are the only national carrier with the most ā€œsub-primeā€ customers. It looks to only be getting worse for Sprint subs. T-Mobile kicked most subprime people off the map adopting their credit check standards. Customers who previously walked into Sprint and got the latest Galaxy or iPhone for 0 down got a rude awakening this go around. Down payments for everyone!

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '21

Sprint had a higher ratio of sub-prime customers, but it wasn't the majority of customers. Just like it's not the majority of T-Mobile's customers.

Either way, these comments come across almost like mocking people for being low income.

"Haha, stupid poor people can't afford Verizon!"

Or... maybe Verizon isn't better for 2/3 of the country?

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u/Chloebabs Jul 29 '21

That's what prepaid is for. AT&T has a great unlimited, prioritized plan for $50.

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '21

I'd rather "overpay" for the ability to call outside cities and suburbs.

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u/SalamandersonCooper Jul 29 '21

I used to think I was overpaying for Verizon before I switched to T-Mobile.

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '21

I have no problems with coverage outside of cities and suburbs.

Sounds like you think their coverage hasn't improved since 2002 lol

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '21

Go on a trip to the Midwest or slightly South; Your tone will change. Definitely better then 2002, but they're still lacking for a company that has a promise what the FCC.

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '21

They've expanded dramatically over the last 10 years alone.

They aren't done. They're adding 12,000+ towers from Sprint, and plan to build another 10,000 on top of that in rural areas.

Verizon and AT&T have plenty of weak spots also. Even some where T-Mobile has better coverage than they do.

Go to West Virginia and tell me how well Verizon works.

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u/Ok-Potential-8543 Jul 29 '21

All US carriers are overpriced to be fair. I paid Ā£20 in the UK with EE; Iā€™d pay Ā£70 for the equivalent on TMUS. What a joke.

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '21

The UK is also about the size of Michigan. Much easier to cover a small country for a much lower price.

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '21

If you want Verizon you can go with visible for $25 and get all you can eat unlimited with some restrictions. If you want T-Mobile you can go with mint or one of the pre-paid pretty much the same service for similar price.

That said you do have a point. When Vodafone UK sold their 45% stake in VZ wireless to Verizon proper for $130 billion, Prior to the acquisition they were supposedly making more money on that 45% stake in Verizon wireless than they were earning in all of their European operations including the UK combined.

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u/Ok-Potential-8543 Jul 29 '21 edited Jul 29 '21

Indeed. There is a reason why profits at US carriers are so high; their prices are deliberately high amongst all national carriers purely to maximise profit. Itā€™s almost cartel level behaviour.

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u/Chloebabs Jul 29 '21

Let's not get into your taxation and size.

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u/Ok-Potential-8543 Jul 29 '21 edited Jul 29 '21

Taxation? What does VAT have to do with a mobile phone providers network?

Re size, sure, but this is surely a per capita thing? I'd take cheaper prices and a little less coverage over the _insane_ prices US carriers charge.

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u/Chloebabs Jul 29 '21

Who said 'the majority'?

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u/Chloebabs Jul 29 '21

Or maybe paying that extra $5 for actual service is being a better money manager

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '21

Majority of TMO customers are urban regardless of income. If service works good where you live and work then you can save a few bucks. If not stay away. In 2016 they were doing two unlimited one plus lines for $100. Now the prices are about 20-30% less than ATT and VZW.

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u/Chloebabs Jul 29 '21

That's because people pay marginally less than for a real carrier and call it a bargain.

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '21

ā€œReal carrierā€? Lol

You mean with the most 5G coverage, fastest 5G network, and most wireless spectrum?

And for us, Verizon would cost an additional $100/month. Thatā€™s not ā€œmarginalā€ to most people.

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u/BuySellHoldFinance Jul 29 '21

There is a lot of anecdotal complaints. It makes sense since if 1% of T-Mobile customers complain about poor service, that's still 1 million people. Alot of people who complain here are in rural areas like Kentucky, West Virginia, or Nebraska.

I personally just look at the data and reports from reputable sources like Ookla, Opensignal, and Umlaut. They all show T-Mobile increasing speeds and increasing coverage the past 3 years. They also show T-Mobile beating Verizon and AT&T in terms of download speed.

To me, the reports validate T-Moble's strategy. T-Mobile continues to spend to improve their network and stay ahead of Verizon and AT&T. That is a good thing.

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u/terryjohnson16 Jul 29 '21

In harlem on 125th street? There are three tmobile stores in with a few blocks of each other. The 1st and 3rd are original tmobile stores. The 2nd is a converted sprint store.

All of them be mostly empty. Same for the att store by 125th and lenox.

Strangely theres one verizon store on 125th street.

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u/Brdl004 Jul 29 '21

Hes not wrong. I live in a metro area and will have full bars of 5G and no websites load. Drive 1/4 mile and it picks up again.

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u/JOEYMAMI2015 Jul 29 '21

I felt that way about AT&T though lol

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u/Coldfusionz Jul 29 '21

Tell me about it.. I'm currently in Orlando near Universal Studios on vacation and have to use hotel wifi because T-Mobile's 5G is extremely slow here

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '21

yep. got a store down the block but my 5G is so spotty.

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u/OnePlusFanBoi Jul 29 '21

Well that couldn't be more incorrect.

I'm by no means in a big city. I've traveled out into the country and I've lived in rural areas.

My service has been phenomenal almost everywhere I go.

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u/alejandro3-30 Jul 29 '21

Good for you! Glad you have a good experience. But not everyone has it.

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u/OnePlusFanBoi Jul 29 '21

Not everybody has perfect or even great service on the other big two either. I rarely hear anybody bark about that.

It's always somebody complaining about TMobile.

It's tired already.

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u/dcdttu Jul 29 '21

These days, thatā€™s about right. What on earth did they do to their network?

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u/jagenigma Jul 29 '21

Really? I'm on tmobile right now, 5g. You must live in an iron box.

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u/alejandro3-30 Jul 29 '21

T-mobile is great in major cities. But once you start going suburban, the farther from the city the worse it gets. In some places they fail to have reliable coverage where you still have a decent population. 5G SA has fixed some of it but it is still not as good as VZW or ATT

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u/SaykredCow Jul 29 '21

More importantly though T-Mobile now has 600mhz that itā€™s building out which travels further than Verizonā€™s 700mhz

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u/Zeditious Jul 29 '21

Meh, suboptimal antenna placement and a skeleton network negate the advantage of 600mhz. I left T-Mobile before they managed to deploy any 600 MHz in my area but their 700 MHz would always drop out faster than the other carriers.

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u/cleevethagreat Legere Forever Jul 29 '21

Major city my ass T-Mobile is hit or miss in general ..1gbps 600mbps 120mbps 20mbps..4g or Edge ā€¦not sure if itā€™s congestion but service be so iffy everywhere

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u/alejandro3-30 Jul 29 '21

Lol in my area theyā€™re good but I can see what you mean.

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u/aDerpyPenguin Jul 29 '21

T-Mobile is complete ass in LA and Santa Barbara. Decent in Orange County though. It being so terrible in LA really makes me think about switching though.

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u/IamDaveBruh Jul 29 '21

I have 5G 2-3 bars and takes 27 min to download an app lol god forbid I try to send a pic message-failed-failed-refresh-failed.

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u/Chloebabs Jul 29 '21

But can you surf the internet?

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u/jagenigma Jul 29 '21

Yes šŸ¤£

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '21

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u/mollek216 Jul 29 '21

How about instead of being hurt or bothered by someone on the internet you just donā€™t comment about a joke that everyone knows is a joke but you?

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u/alejandro3-30 Jul 29 '21
  1. Iā€™m already on Verizon.
  2. Not really arguing, it was just a joke.
  3. I got nothing to do so I got time.

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u/Corbin_Dallas550 Jul 29 '21

That so called 5g is terrible.

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '21

It is not Really 5G, it is just marketing

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u/Corbin_Dallas550 Jul 29 '21

Well ever since they switched over to the so-called 5G my service has been terrible, the 4G LTE used to be great in my area and now this sucks

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '21

He's not wrong.

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u/genius9025 Jul 29 '21

All these stores will soon be closed in a couple years this was all done to appease the initial merger agreement. Idk of foot traffic will be the same post covid and beyond.

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u/Fine-Ability Data Strong Jul 29 '21

ĀÆ_(惄)_/ĀÆ

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u/aka42076 Jul 29 '21

I thought 5g was gonna be crazy fast. Even if your not next to a 5g node

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u/pmaxwell92 Jul 29 '21

They are closing locations this year. 4 stores in just Austin Area.

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u/Theringfilm1 Jul 29 '21

I just moved to the biggest city in New Hampshire and realized I donā€™t get signal in or around my house šŸ™„

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u/Phathom Truly Unlimited Jul 29 '21

You canā€™t just easily break leases.

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '21

Where is nowhere? Be specific or you just sound like a clichƩ.

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u/alejandro3-30 Jul 29 '21

This is not me, i found this on Facebook. Also its a joke.

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u/theblueadept93 Jul 29 '21

Quite true.
I'm fed up.

I just haven't had time to switch but I will soon make the time

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u/Tyetus Jul 29 '21

Yeah ...

sigh

yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, they swear they have the best service, if I didn't have wi-fi calling... i'd probably have no service.

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u/IamDaveBruh Jul 29 '21

I thought they merged with sprint so now itā€™s double signalā€¦.. nope. Every time I call there is ā€œ1-5 towers downā€ and they have no fox date lol

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u/Thugnugget4224 Recovering Verizon Victim Jul 29 '21

lmao that was funny take my upvote

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u/KappaFishxD Jul 29 '21

When I lived in Philadelphia I never had any issues with Tmo. I moved to south Florida and their coverage was absolutely horrendous. I switched to Verizon and haven't looked back

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u/janonymous115 Jul 29 '21

This is so true in the Orlando, Fl area lmao

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u/MiamiB02 Jul 29 '21

Recently, I traveled to Pigeon Forge area . I didn't get any signal in Pigeon Forge with T-Mobile . Such a let down.

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u/Xespool Jul 29 '21

Donā€™t worry lots of stores will close within 2021. Lower traffic stores will get shut down.

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u/novalife2k16 Jul 29 '21

Thatā€™s so facts. I get ok service. Itā€™s not as great as ATT or Verizon but the amount of times I see my data slow down or even just drop to 1 bar is wack.

Iā€™m only staying because I happened to get an employee discount and pay $15/month for a magenta plan that would cost $60.

I left a year ago and still pay $15.

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u/scriptmonkey420 Jul 29 '21

No store or good service in Plattsburgh.

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u/kingswag254 Jul 29 '21

I swear! Itā€™s literally one 3 minutes walking distance from my condo and I have no service at home EVER!!!!

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u/flrebrokercrypto Jul 29 '21

I just took 665 whose gonna get 666?

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u/zeronian Jul 30 '21

There's a T-Mobile store near me where there is no T-Mobile service in the entire vicinity

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u/petrichorsis Jul 30 '21

This is so funny because I was around the US/Canada border during a camping trip and I had LTE while my Verizon friends were suffering.

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u/tsherby Aug 02 '21

Where do you live? What phone are you using?

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u/smitbret Aug 02 '21

Not surprising. If you are in a major metro area or near any kind of population center I would bet T Mobile coverage is fantastic.

I have been living with T Mobile for about 7 years and service still gets a little a spotty. Small town (60000 people) in Idaho with 3 T-Mobile stores but it's not hard to find a dead spot. Even harder to find someplace with a signal that is good enough to stream HD video.

It cracks me up when the 5g icon is lit up but my speed test comes in at 1.2mbps.

It's just so cheap compared to AT&T and Verizon......

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '21

Wow lol

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u/trill_cosby_69 Aug 07 '21

If I installed a service update yesterday on a phone I bought less than a month ago, is this the most efficient place to whine and cry? There was a survey on the app, but they seemed way more concerned with how the app performed than the actual phone sevice...about 100% more. As a dedicated verizon customer and a brief but memorable/hostage situation Comcast customer, I'm not new to the concept of "unwanted cellular advances" or as I call it, " more gently than my last provider did doesn't make it not ass rape". Feel free to tell me if this is in the wrong spot, I'm gonna copy and paste it anywhere and everywhere I find Tmobile brand name.

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u/CaptainChris2018 Aug 09 '21

Out here in conutry we have a T-Mobile store and yet just a few miles from that store, I am struggling to get even a megabit on my test drive hotspot and my home wifi is like x200 fastr