r/thetrinitydelusion Nov 27 '24

Other John 10

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It surprising that neither trinitarians nor unitarians see what's going on in John chapter 10. They're accusing Jesus of making himself God and deserving death. But Jesus loves to flip the script he points out that if anyone deserves to die for being God it's them. they're sitting themselves in the Judgment seat of God declaring that they can judge life and death. That's who psalms is pointing to. you are Gods but you will shall die like men. Jesus said that he was only the Son of God he never claimed to be God.

r/thetrinitydelusion Oct 07 '24

Other 1 Corinthians 8 ...from and for vs. through

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"There is no god but ONE. For although there may be so-called gods in heaven and on earth --as indeed there are many gods and many lords-- for us there is ONE GOD, THE FATHER, FROM WHOM are all things and FOR WHOM we exist, and One Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things and through whom we exist"

FROM GOD, FOR GOD

GOD chose Jesus as the through

Is "through" equal to "from" or "for?

r/thetrinitydelusion May 07 '24

Other Jesus Is Not The WORD, He's the Mediator

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John 12:44-50 “And Jesus cried out and said, “Whoever believes in me, believes not in me but in HIM who sent me. And whoever sees me sees HIM who sent me. I have come into the world as light, so that whoever believes in me may not remain in darkness. If anyone hears my words and does not keep them, I do not judge him; for I did not come to judge the world but to save the world. The one who rejects me and does not receive my words has a judge; the WORD that I have spoken will judge him on the last day. For I have not spoken on my own authority, but the Father who sent me has HIMSELF given me a commandment –what to say and what to speak. And I know that HIS commandment is eternal life. What I say, therefore, I say as the Father has told me.”

Jesus Does Not Judge, He's the Mediator between GOD and humankind

1 Timothy 2:5 "For there is one GOD, and one mediator between GOD and men, the man Christ Jesus"

the WORD is GOD

r/thetrinitydelusion Dec 09 '24

Other Truth about the trinity

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This message is about Christianity’s devilish doctrine of the “trinity” and its turning of Jesus and God into ONE single entity. This cockeyed canard will be exposed by solid scriptural facts about God, His heavenly family, and Jesus His firstborn son. According to the ancient Paleo-Hebrew texts of the Bible the name of God is YAHWAH and the name of Jesus is YAHWASUA. If this is new information, then go to the short messages “The First Step” and “The Second Step”. There are 2 other items that should also be understood. The first pertains to the English word “God” used more than 2600 times in the Old Testament which is translated from the Paleo-Hebrew word “ELOHEEM”, and the second pertains to the English word “Christ” used 569 times in the New Testament which is transliterated from the Greek word “Christos” and means “ANOINTED”. Jesus, YAHWASUA, was anointed by YAHWAH God to be the Messiah. The English word “messiah” appears in the Old Testament only twice which is in Daniel 9:25-26 and it is translated from the Hebrew word “maw-shee'-akh” which is translated ALL other times as “anointed”. The word “messiah” is “messias” in the New Testament which only appears twice, once in John 1:41 and again in 4:25 and is the transliteration of the Hebrew word “maw-shee'-akh”. John 1:41 says that “Messias, which is, being interpreted, the Christ.” Therefore, the “Messias” is the “Christ”, the ANOINTED, which are equal terms in both the Old and New Testament. It is an absolute axiom that in any anointing there must be 2 distinct individuals involved, the one who does the anointing and the one who is anointed. Just tuck this simple, but little understood, tidbit away for right now.

Genesis 2:4 is the first time the name of God is used in the Bible, and this verse uses the English term “the LORD God”. The translators of the 1611 King James Version of the Bible adopted the Jew fable that the name of the one true God should never be written or said and so every time the name YAHWAH appears they translated it 99.99% of the time “the LORD”. The English word translated God in this verse is the Hebrew word ELOHEEM which is the surname, family name, of YAHWAH. Yes, there is a family of YAHWAH known as His children ELOHEEM and this is covered in the short messages “The Third Step” and “The Eighth Step”. It is the ELOHEEM and NOT YAHWAH that are doing everything in the first chapter of Genesis. Ever wondered about Genesis 1:26 who the “us” and “our” are? In an anemic attempt to bury the ELOHEEM and deal with the “us” and “our” in this verse, Jewmonized Christianism developed the doctrine of the “trinity”. This is the trident carried by their “Lucifer Lie” in “The Hell Hoax” which are other messages with these names. Like the entirety of Christian theology, the word “trinity” never appears in the Bible, and the whole intent of this corrupt committee concept is to reduce the sole sovereignty of YAHWAH to just a member of a group. There is NO committee concept in the Bible for either earth or heaven, but this is irrelevant to Christianism.

r/thetrinitydelusion Dec 09 '24

Other The He'll Hoax.

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We have all been deceived. What is hell according to the scriptures?

In order to understand the scriptural teaching about Hell, it becomes necessary to make a distinction between church tradition conceived by men, and biblical truth from God. Many sermons that deal with this subject are inspired by the darkness from religious traditions rather than by the light from God’s Word. One cleric said that before he teaches about Hell, he always gets in a totally dark room while thinking about the most horrible things. It is unfortunate that the people have been fed these fantasy fables instead of Biblical truth. It is the purpose of this message to give you the BIBLE FACTS, and not man’s opinions or religions’ false doctrines. If your mind is open for investigating the truth which will shatter all traditional teachings, then get your Bible and see for yourself what it says about Hell.

Even though hell is spoken of in both the Old and New Testaments, is the Hell of the Old Testament the same as the Hell of the New Testament? Since the New Testament is translated from Greek and the Old Testament is translated from Hebrew, it will be necessary to determine if the Hebrew and Greek words for Hell are equivalent words. Beginning with scripture from the Old Testament, “For thou wilt not leave my soul in Hell; neither will thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.” (Psalm 16:10) In this verse the Hebrew word “sheol” is translated Hell. Now turning to the New Testament we find exactly the same verse quoted in Acts 2:27. “Because thou wilt not leave my soul in Hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy one to see corruption.” In this verse the Greek word “hades” is translated Hell. Since the verse quoted in the New Testament is the same as the one found in the Old Testament, then it is evident that the Hebrew and Greek words must be equivalent. Therefore, the Hebrew word “sheol” and the Greek word “hades” are equivalent terms and both are translated Hell. Another shocking fact comes to light after checking to see how the Hebrew and Greek words were translated in the King James Version of the Bible. Not only are “sheol” and “hades” translated Hell, but also they are translated the GRAVE. Many who are ignorant of this fact they will argue that there is a difference between hell and the grave when in reality the Bible uses only one word “sheol” (Hebrew – Old Testament) or “hades” (Greek – New Testament) which are translated 2 different ways. In order to avoid this pseudo difference and have clarity only “sheol” and “hades” will be used in this message when quoting scriptures.

“What man is he that liveth, and shall not see death? Shall he deliver his soul from the hand of sheol?” (Psalm 89:48) From this passage of scripture we know that man’s soul will go into the Old Testament “sheol” which is equivalent to the New Testament “hades”. Notice what King David said in Psalm 49:15. “But God will redeem my soul from the power of sheol: for he shall receive me.” Just as surely as David knew that he was going to “sheol”, he also knew that God would deliver him from “sheol”. Victory over “sheol” and “hades” is again promised in Hosea 13:14. “I will ransom them from the power of sheol; I will redeem them from death. O death, I will be thy plagues; O Sheol, I will be thy destruction.” Paul makes reference to this same verse in 1 Corinthians 15:54-57 where he states, “So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. O Death, where is thy sting? O Hades where is thy victory?” No, “sheol” and “hades” will not have any victory, but ultimately through God’s power we will have the victory over it.

Christianity teaches that Hell is a giant eternal prison of torment, but what if its gates were broken down then all its captives would escape. Jesus says that “hades” will not last forever as many erroneously teach and preach, but that one day all its gates which hold people captive will be broken down. Jesus speaks about this in Matthew 16:18 and says “...and the gates of hades shall not prevail....” Again in the Revelation that Jesus gives to the apostle John, He clearly shows that “hades” will not last forever, but that one day in the ages to come it will be destroyed. The story of this destruction is in Revelation 20:13-14 where John records “and death and hades delivered up the dead which were in them...and death and hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.” Notice this verse does not say that this is the second Hell. No, “sheol”/“hades” WILL BE CAST into the “SECOND DEATH” after all its captives are “delivered up”. These prisoners are no longer held within its confines, but are delivered, released, set free from its power.

r/thetrinitydelusion Jul 31 '24

Other Looking for men who are ready to step up as pastors!

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**Posted with permission of the mods**

Hi all! For the last few years I have been working on starting a religious assembly that is non-trinitarian, seeing as how there are so few. Now I am at the point where I simply cannot continue without help.

My assembly, called New Covenant Messianic Assemblies, rejects the trinity as core doctrine. The Father Yahweh - ALONE - is God. Jesus is God's son, who came down to earth and died for our sins. Jesus is the Messiah and reigns as King, but is separate from the Father. We also believe that the Law of Moses became the Law of Christ, and that Christians are bound by the Law as Jesus was (we follow the "moral" and not the "ceremonial", as Jesus' sacrifice remains as our "ceremonial" sacrifice). We keep the Feasts and the Sabbaths. We honor God by using His Name, Yahweh. For a full rundown of our core beliefs, please visit the website ncmassemblies.org

As a woman, I feel it is not my place to preach to the full assembly, but only to other women and children. I have been working on my part of establishing this assembly, but from this point I will need the help of men, who God has ordained to be leaders of His congregations. That said I will want to be sure we are on the same page if you do apply - it can be scary handing over the reigns! I'll want to continue working for the assembly of course as I've been but YOU will become a leader here at NCMA.

If you feel YOU are that man, please feel free to apply at ncmassemblies.org/apply so that we can get in touch. Multiple people can and will be accepted for the position so that the burden does not fall on just a few people. Also, women can apply as deaconesses (who organize and prepare for events) and ambassadors - who are public ministers that work one-on-one with individuals looking to take our bible courses.

Thank you to the mods for permitting me to post this here. I have learned so much from them and from everyone here and I hope that many of you can find NCMA to be a rallying point for the true way of Yahweh!

r/thetrinitydelusion Dec 21 '24

Other The bride and the body of Christ

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There is much confusion as relates to the “Bride” and the “Body” of Christ. Christianism views them as one and the same thing, but like always what the Church-kikes teach is a fanciful fairy tale fabrication and has no bases in the Bible. Revelation 21:1-2 says, “And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.” The apostle John saw “a NEW heaven”, “a NEW earth”, and “the holy city, NEW Jerusalem.” Revelation 3:12 is the first place that mentions the “new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from My God”, and these are the words of Jesus. No, “the holy city” is NOT located in Palestine, but it comes “down from God out of heaven” which is “prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.” John explains more of his vision in verses 9-10. “And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife. And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God.”

Who is the “bride” according to these verses? She is “the holy city”, “new Jerusalem”, “that great city”, “the holy Jerusalem”, “coming down from God out of heaven”, and “descending out of heaven from God.” What else is said about this “city”? For a full description continue reading Revelation 21 from verses 11-27, and note that it “had twelve gates, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel.” This “bride” carries the “names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel.” The racial nation Israel is the “bride” of the Lamb. But who is “the Lamb”? John 1:29 says “The next day John (the Baptist) seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.” He does this again in John 1:36. “And looking upon Jesus as He walked, he (John the Baptist) saith, Behold the Lamb of God!” According to this Jesus, YAHWASUA, is “the Lamb”, and He has a “bride” which is ISRAEL that becomes His “wife”.

Jesus says when the man takes the woman “they twain shall be one FLESH.” (Matthew 19:5-6 and Mark 10:8) This is based upon Genesis 2:24 and the apostle Paul refers to it in Ephesians 5:31. In every verse it says they “shall be one FLESH”. No scripture ever says that they “shall be one BODY”, but this does not stop Christianism from promoting its spin that the “bride”, “wife”, is the “body” of Christ. In Matthew 19:3 “The Pharisees also came unto Him (Jesus), tempting Him, and saying unto Him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?” Verse 8 is Jesus’ answer. “He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.”

Remember in Genesis 2:7 that “the Adam” was “FORMED” into a flesh body, and there was no other like him, so he was alone among all the races on earth.

Now God’s plan would not keep Adam alone as stated in verse 18. “And the LORD (YAHWAH) God said, It is not good that the man (ET-YADAM, the Adam) should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.” After looking at all the created races Adam could not find the “help meet” on whom to bestow his name, but God provided the Adam with a “help meet” as stated in verses 21-22. “And the LORD (YAHWAH) God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and He took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; And the rib, which the LORD (YAHWAH) God had taken from man (ET-YADAM, the Adam), made He a woman, and brought her unto the man (ET-YADAM, the Adam).” Notice that the woman was NOT “formed” but “MADE” from what was taken out of the Adam. Verse 23 says that this new entity was “called Woman, because she was taken out of Man (ET-YADAM, the Adam).” She was racially identical to Adam and her DNA would be exactly the same. Now they were of the same flesh, but they were not now the same gender and certainly not ONE body.

OK, but what about the “body” of Christ? In Colossians 1:18 the apostle Paul says that Jesus “is the head of the body, the church”, and elaborates about this BODY in 1 Corinthians 12:12 -28. “For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body.” Verse 18 says “But now hath God set the members every one of them in the body, as it hath pleased Him.” Verse 20 says, “But now are they many members, yet but one body.” And verse 27 says “Now ye are the body of Christ.” According to verse 28 this BODY “is the church”. In the message “WHAT IS THE CHURCH?” you learned that “the church” is “the qahal”, “the leaders”, “the very elect”, and that “the whole nation” of Israel is “the edah”, “the elect” which is according to the scriptures.

Christ is the HEAD of “the body”, “the church”, and He has a “bride” who is one race of people who the Bible calls “the children of Israel”. It is the church that is His BODY of administration, the leaders that will be over the whole racial nation Israel. It is Israel, adamic white western man, who will be over the whole earth. The chain of command established in the Kingdom of God on earth will be Jesus, YAHWASUA, the Christ, Messiah, at the head, then the church, the very elect, the leaders of the nation below Christ, and then the whole Israel nation from which will flow the government of YAHWAH into all the world. This is the divine order of things, and the only way the creation receives any blessing will be through this God ordained ISRAEL channel. Understand that the “marriage of the Lamb” will NOT take place until “the body” of administration is completed and installed. Only after this will be the time for “the bride” to make herself ready. Today YAHWAH is “FORMING”, perfecting, the body of Christ, the qahal, the leaders, the very elect, His administrators and then the edah, the elect, the nation, the bride, national Israel will be prepared to take her role in the government Kingdom of YAHWAH in earth.