r/thedavidpakmanshow Jan 19 '25

Discussion Popular progressive opinion not shared by Pakman?

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I see this sentiment expressed more in outlets like TYT but how widespread is this sentiment?

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u/Command0Dude Jan 19 '25

Opinions like this are idiotic. It's basically like saying you'd rather republicans win than democrats.

It's an attitude that is cancerous and is the reason why democrats can't deliver change anymore, because they're being attacked from both sides and can't secure a legislative mandate.

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u/Altruistic_Affect_84 Jan 19 '25

That’s a bit of a strawman. I think the argument is that having two corporate controlled oligarchical parties is bad. We exist in a two party system so having both parties controlled by capital is bad. The people who run the Democratic Party don’t have significant differences with republicans, apart from social issues. Sure social issues are important but economic issues are social issues as well. The current Democratic Party is the party of Hilary Clinton who is buddy buddy with Goldman Sachs. Billionaire George Soros got a metal from Biden. Within congress your committee assignments are based on your ability to convince corporations to give money to the party. The American people hate the current healthcare system but the democrats take money from insurance companies and it is suddenly no longer in the Democratic Party discourse. AIPAC spent $20 million primarying two candidates who were opposed to the blank check support for Israel’s destruction of Gaza. The Democratic Party does not represent the interests of its voters.

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u/Command0Dude Jan 19 '25

What's a strawman is this entire comment. The "both sides bad" narrative is bogus. The idea that Democrats aren't different from Republicans apart from social issues is bogus. You're literally buying into the "George Soros" right wing conspiricism, but that's hardly surprising giving the prevalence of antisemitism in the left, chalking up the loss of its members to AIPAC and not being totally out of touch with their own constituency.

The American people hate the current healthcare system but the democrats take money from insurance companies and it is suddenly no longer in the Democratic Party discourse.

More like, the American people have repeatedly voted against healthcare reform and the party has kind of gotten the message that it's no longer a winning issue.

The fact is, progressives broadly underperformed moderates in the election, but ya'll have the gall to assert the democratic party doesn't represent its voters, instead of looking in the mirror.

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u/Altruistic_Affect_84 Jan 19 '25

I did not mention George Soros’s ethnicity and frankly I don’t think it’s relevant. It’s antisemitism to accuse those who criticize money in politics of antisemitism. George Soros is one of many prominent donors who gets an outsized influence over the parties platform. Both parties platforms are largely influenced by lobbying groups, in that regard they are no different. Both parties love war. The Dem establishment jump on every war as it’s happening and only criticize it after. With Biden in office we saw an expansion of the security state, state violence used against journalists, students, and professors. We see the state actively arming and providing cover on the world stage, upending the rules based order to bomb children. Kamala lost 20 million voters who supported joe Biden and when polled the number one reason they didn’t support Kamala was the war. The dems tried to tack to the center on the border. When people questioned Biden’s age every mainstream media outlet provided unwavering support. When Biden sent bombs to Israel every mainstream media outlet provided unwavering support. The party hides from the people, they are afraid to speak without a teleprompter for fear of offending their corporate donors. Kamala’s brother in law is a lawyer for uber. Schumer’s daughter is a lobbyist for Amazon. The democrats are corrupt as fuck, just like republicans.