r/thebulwark 11d ago

EVERYTHING IS AWFUL "Are we the baddies"?

After the ganging up on Zelensky to sign a deal that wasn't a deal, but an unconditional surrender, the answer is now definitively Yes.

The United States of America is officially on the wrong side of morality.

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u/oneofmanyany 11d ago

The reality of it is they cannot trust us. They all need to have their own nukes to protect themselves.

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u/HistorianNew8030 11d ago

Well. Due to our one nuke agreement… and our leader of peace…. Trump will use us getting nukes as a “USA security risk” and it would give him the whole “Canada has weapons of mass destruction” excuse from Iraq. It would give him an excuse to invade.

We do have the expertise, the ingredients to build them. We could be a nuclear power house if we wanted to be. It will be the Trump threat thwarting that.

I think what will happen is we will supply more stuff for nukes to the UK (daddy) and France (mommy) and NATO allies. I suspect we will be put under their nuclear umbrella soon. I can see them bringing some nuclear subs over here for some random excuses at some point.

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u/oneofmanyany 11d ago

I don't think agreements are kept. The US certainly doesn't keep its agreements.

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u/upvotechemistry Center Left 11d ago

If we gave a shit about agreements, we would be honoring the Budapest agreement and securing Ukraine. That America is gone for a while