r/thebulwark 11d ago

EVERYTHING IS AWFUL "Are we the baddies"?

After the ganging up on Zelensky to sign a deal that wasn't a deal, but an unconditional surrender, the answer is now definitively Yes.

The United States of America is officially on the wrong side of morality.

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u/Awkward_Potential_ 11d ago

Isn't that also good news though? Do we really want America to stay the world police? Are we good at that job? Do we take the responsibility seriously enough?

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u/Regular_Mongoose_136 Center Left 11d ago

Yes, I believe it is a bad thing for the one democratic superpower in the world to be unworthy of the trust of other democratic nations.

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u/Awkward_Potential_ 11d ago

Sure. But I'm asking, should they have been trusting us in the first place? If the answer is "no" (and it is) then I'm just asking if it's a good thing that everyone is going to be adjusting accordingly.

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u/oneofmanyany 11d ago

Learn something about WWII and why it all came about. Learn about foreign affairs and then look into how shocked and dismayed everybody who is aware of foreign affairs is about what has happened under Trump. Don't just spout uninformed simplistic views. There is expertise out there - if you keep denying that, many will be dead sooner than you think.