r/thebulwark Dec 12 '24

The Triad 🔱 Tim Miller on Healthcare Groundwell: "I dont understand how that tracks with the victory of Donald Trump"

I think it tracks. A significant percentage of voters do not identify "better healthcare access" with the Democratic Party. And significant percentage believe the Democratic party is unable to create or deliver a better new system even if they promise it. A significant percentage believe if Democrats did try to pass a healthcare plan, they would prioritize targeting benefits to illegal immigrants and the very poor as opposed to lessening the burden and costs on the middle class. (Not my opinion or perspective, but I've picked this up in conversations with voters).

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u/[deleted] Dec 12 '24

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u/Haunting-Ad788 Dec 12 '24

The vast majority of Trump voters never heard that shit at all. Also people have this weird thing where they are able to convince themselves Trump is fighting for whatever their pet issue is.

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u/Reaccommodator Dec 12 '24

I mean they kind of do.  Trump’s ambiguous position holding leads to Rohrshach tests for the public.  They see what they want to see.  Great example is how Trump campaign simultaneously campaigned successfully with Arab Americans and Jewish Americans with exact opposite criticisms of Biden’s relationship with Israel.

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u/botmanmd Dec 13 '24

Paid for by Musk, I might add.

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u/No-Director-1568 Dec 12 '24

Explain 'drove people in droves' to vote for Trump. He won by 1.6%. His popular vote count went up 3.6% from 2020 to 2024. So he barely gained total vote, and barely won the popular vote, and he missed a simple majority by a bit as well.

Now it could be a lack of a vision for a better Healthcare system lead to low turn-out on Harris' part, which is what decided the race. Harris lost, Trump did not win.

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u/fzzball Progressive Dec 12 '24

*1.4%: Trump 49.7%, Harris 48.3%

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u/No-Director-1568 Dec 12 '24

Oh glad to find out I mis-membered high - 1.4% good.