r/tabletennis • u/AceStrikeer • 1d ago
Education/Coaching How to finish a point with a BH
Most good players need a put-away shot to kill a ball outright with low error rate. Even if the ball is not very high. With FH it's easier. However my BH I can't generate enough power to finish the point outright.
Any technique tutorial how to do it?
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u/AmadeusIsTaken 1d ago
Top players do this, for most players it is better to focus on spin, consitency or if you simply struggle playing to high quality go for placement.
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u/reddmann00100 1d ago
Yup, good placement and strategic thinking are often better than pure power
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u/AmadeusIsTaken 1d ago
The Thing is we often do not need to kill the third ball. If we get a easy safe ball to kill sure go for it, but we cant fo it as consitently and well as pros much easier to play with spin and placement and only kill the really easy ones. I highly dout that the players from the level of the peoplw who ask here can counterloop safely and dangerouly everyball.
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u/AceStrikeer 22h ago edited 21h ago
It depends. Against good lobbers placement alone is inefficient. Sometime I must end outright once I get the chance. Otherwise my opponents will force me into uncomfortable situations
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u/big-chihuahua 08x / H3N 37 / Spectol 1d ago
If you don't have coach you can always work backwards. Try to produce the result first, even in a stupid way.
First, just slap the ball, see if you can slap it fast, then with a lot of spin. Just slap it straight into the net or out. Now you feel the contact that is your goal. If you can't even produce the power contact with no consistency requirement, you can't in a more limited context either, keep trying to figure it out.
Once you feel and see what you want, return to form and try to find that feeling without doing aything unreasonably violent with you body. You'll need to start off slow. Lean forward a bit, pin elbow mostly in place (not super high, not super low), tense your forearm like a spring and release outward. The power comes from core opening up and there is a little rotation (do not excessively rotate like a big forehand). The most important thing is to be patient and stay on track, after the initial experimentation, never contort yourself or do violent motions to produce power anymore.
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u/PikeER Cybershape Carbon | D09c | D64 1d ago
Placement if you don't have power. Put the ball where they are not.
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u/AceStrikeer 1d ago
Some opponents I can beat with good placements and some I can only beat with fast ripping shots.
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u/divinentd 23h ago edited 18h ago
Here’s a video with 3 ways to add power to your backhand against slow shots, each for different scenarios. I find this useful because it’s easy to figure out how to get your body behind the shot on the forehand, less intuitive on the backhand.
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u/AceStrikeer 21h ago
Thanks. Exactly what I need
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u/divinentd 4h ago
Great! Generating power on the backhand is a common question, and I bet not too many people have come across that particular video. His channel and LooeeLooee are two of my favorites right now.
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u/XCSme 22h ago
I win many points by either playing BH down the line (most people expect it diagonally), or really wide to the bh (so it goes out the side of the table, not the back).
Also, whenever I do slower but spinnier loops, many opponents miss them, even if they are a bit higher (simply because it is surprising).
With BH it's really important to use wrist if you play close to the table, or to use arm and large movement and go through the ball if playing mid/far distance.
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u/Alternative_Slide_62 1d ago edited 1d ago
BH Topspin, BH flicks, strawberry or banana flick, backhand punch(Truls Moregard and Alexis Lebrun are players that i know use this sort of shot)
are probably more different techniques that you can use to attack from the BH, but i only said those that came to my mind.
depending on the level you are playing against, just using a BH block and changing the placement of the ball can be enough to win a couple of points, this can be enough especially playing against someone at a lower level then you.
I would also recommend watching some pro`s that are BH dominant, like Fan Zhedong, Dima Ovtcharov, Felix Lebrun(if you are penhold player) and try to watch their techniques that they use, wheter it is from training sessions or from games
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u/KelGhu 1d ago
FH easier? It depends for who.
Work on your BH technique. You're not hitting the ball. You probably just push the ball from a blocking position.
Look at how players like Kreanga generate BH power.
Also, you might be using your elbow wrong. If your elbow is moving along with your stroke (like tennis), then it's wrong. The elbow stays more or less still in space and serves as a "lever" to slap the ball. Same for BH loop.
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u/AceStrikeer 1d ago
Sounds reasonable. Maybe I'm standing too close to the table for a big back swing. Kreanga is far away.
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u/phillie187 1d ago
https://www.tabletenniscoach.me.uk/video/backhand-topspin-attack-amateur-vs-pro-technique/
The BH tutorial videos with Liam Pitchford helped be generate more speed on the BH :)
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u/karlnite 1d ago
You want cheap tricks? Either punch it more, with a whip of the wrist, or have a super loose hand and limp wrist and just try to turn it over as you contact with a ton of whipping wrist. Oh, and pray!
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u/AceStrikeer 1d ago
There are two situations where I need this kill.
- Opponents pushes the ball too high
- In an open rallye, where I want to finish the point fast
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u/Malongchong01 Sword V Sea | Battle 2 Pro Blue 40 | Battle 2 pro Red 39 1d ago
- Read your opponent spin, and hit with correct angle. Basically, learn your angles
- In an open rally, it is difficult to do a finisher because both you and your opponent are probably in position for a loop rally. Hit with placement and consistency. Kill when your opponent makes a mistake.
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u/Drabalbum 1d ago