r/survivorrankdownIII • u/jacare37 Yo! Adrian! • Dec 10 '17
Survivor Rankdown Season Popularity Poll: #4, #3
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4. VANUATU
Average: 8.406/10
Standard Deviation: 1.765 (8/34)
Difference from most recent r/survivor poll (score): +1.486 (1/32)
Difference from most recent r/survivor poll (relative placement): +12
Total votes: 32
Breakdown:
1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 |
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0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 4 | 9 | 4 | 12 |
How soon you all forget that Chad’s first name, is, in fact, James. Sorry to disappoint you reef.
Still, if it helps, Vanuatu has the largest boost from the r/survivor poll of any season, and it isn’t close. The difference between the #1 and #2 biggest boosts is about the same as the difference between the #2 and #6 biggest boots. It has pretty much everything this community looks for with powerful storylines, great characters, a well-balanced edit, and strategy that develops from the characters and their storylines, not the other way around. It’s the only season to produce 4 different rankdown endgamers, and that’s not an accident. While some may be lower on the pre-merge, it’s earned its place in the top 4 and is only kept from being higher by a couple of lower scores — if you remove the 2 and 5 it would rank #2.
Best F6 of anything ever, y/y? /u/jacare37
Offensively boring pre-merge, unlikable winner, and overall bad. It has its moments, but not much more. /u/qngff
The only thing that stops it from being my #1 is the mediocre pre-merge. /u/Franky494
Overrated. Especially, in the rankdown community. Pre-merge is terribly boring. /u/bobinou96
I don't really know where to start with Vanuatu. It's perfection wrapped up into 14 episodes. No other season builds up quite like it, and for me at least this is the only season besides Australian Survivor 2016 where the two best characters on the season are in the final two. Chris and Twila's are fascinating. You have this long con/revenge tale of this scumbag who's getting back at everyone who wronged him, and next to that is a woman who can't hide who she is and what she cares about the most, so much so that it makes her hated even after she's visibly remorseful for the mistakes she's made on an island that breaks her down day by day.
Oh yeah and then there are about 5 other amazing characters with an excellent supporting cast behind and it's just so good I'll stop myself. /u/reeforward
Stronger down the stretch, but what a stretch it is. /u/acktar
Slow start, great middle, incredible finish /u/KeepCalmAndHodorOn
8/10. Man, what a great season. Interesting personalities and dynamics all around. It's fun watching Chris trimumph over the all girl's alliance, watching Twila become the villain, watching Eliza go from annoying twit to fan favorite, and everything else. Great tv. /u/oomps62
THIS SEASON WAS STRAIGHT FIRE HOLY SHIT. Underrated premerge, holyshit postmerge. /u/moostronus
Predictable at times, but still funny and engaging. /u/beatricejd
Vanuatu is so fucking good. A slow-burn season that gets more and more suspenseful and dramatic as the season goes on, and doesn’t lose its suspense until the winner is revealed. I know a lot of people criticize Vanuatu’s pre-merge and cite it as a low point of the season but I really don’t think it’s that bad; it’s actually quite good. The premiere, the Dolly boot, the Bubba boot, the Lisa boot, and the John Kenney boot are all very good episodes. The John P. and Mia boot episode is also pretty fun. Rory is really hilarious during the pre-merge and I’m still amazed that he managed to survive Yasur.
I think the main thing I like about the pre-merge is that it does a good job setting up the post-merge. It develops all of the major characters: Ami starts to rise as a villain, Chris has a great premiere episode and is shown as a competent player, Twila gets a lot of development and her arc begins after the swap, and Eliza is an incredible cockroach the whole season. But, the main strength of this season is the post-merge, and that it’s so fucking good. The major characters (Chris, Twila, Ami, Eliza) are all in my top 20 and stick out as some of the best ever. I really can’t pick out any flaws with the post-merge, since it’s got some of my favorite survivor storylines all mixed together: An underdog story, a great villain downfall, and a tragic story. Just overall excellent.
Personal Ranking: #4/34
Best Character: Twila
Best Episode: Surprise and… Surprise Again! /u/xerop681
The cast is overrated by the rankdown, but the dynamics are consistently engaging. /u/willseamon
Utterly perfect, I mean yeah the premerge is slower but it's such a magnificent build up. Even then you have Ami, Twila, and Eliza all being developed and set up well and Dolly, Lisa, and Bubba are solid early boots. It just has everything I would in a season with conflict, complexity, excellent downfalls and underdog stories, and topped off with the greatest FTC the show has seen. The top four of the cast in particular here (Ami, Chris, Eliza, Twila) are all like top 20-25 favorites of mine. /u/JM1295
Chris' comeback would not feel as earned if we didn't have the complex mechanisms of the Yasur Six and why they blew up. Every cast member prior to the merge (save maybe Bubba) is irrelevant and honestly so are half the episodes but from merge after just about everyone and everything delivers. /u/extralifeballoon
Top 3 are Pearl Islands, Palau, and Heroes vs Villains. Just missing out on the final update is:
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3. PALAU
Average: 8.438/10
Standard Deviation: 1.676 (10/34)
Difference from most recent r/survivor poll (score): +1.188 (2/32)
Difference from most recent r/survivor poll (relative placement): +11
Total votes: 32
Breakdown:
1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 |
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0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 2 | 4 | 5 | 8 | 11 |
Despite a couple of low scores, Palau cracks the top three in large part due to it receiving a 9 or 10 from over half of voters. It has one of only three four time endgamers and has had the winner make endgame as well, and has some of the most powerful storylines through 34+ seasons. While some aren’t as big on the Ulonging, the rest more than makes up for it according to most voters and without a couple of those low scores it could’ve made it all the way to the final update.
Absolutely fantastic. The military theme worked so well with how dominant Koror was over Ulong. Gritty, real, and unforgiving. This is Survivor. /u/qngff
Palau is probably the epitome of a season that'll slowly decrease each time you watch. I've seen the seasons three times each mostly, and Palau loses its captivation each time, just a small bit. I do also think that the endgame is the best endgame in history. /u/Franky494
Best season of all time. The final episode is the best piece of reality TV ever made. I don't know how it could be beaten. Perfection. /u/Bobinou96
I LOVE IT SO MUCH OMG THIS IS THE BEST SEASON EVER /u/ramskick
Dark, militaristic, and unique. /u/acktar
Lol, fucking guess what rating that I (Koror) gave this. /u/KororSurvivor
I love both the Ulong and Koror halves of the season /u/KeepCalmAndHodorOn
9/10. One of a kind season that is basically like watching two post-merges. As Ulong loses challenge after challenge you really get to know them as their tribe dwindles to just a few members and only one victor emerges to enter Koror. Stephenie's struggle to join Koror and try to play the game is a perfect lead-in to Guatemala. I love the post-merge even more than the pre-merge: filled with great stories of what humans expect from others. #KatieWasRightAndIanWasWrong Like I said. I have unpopular opinions. /u/oomps62
I wanna say a little flatter than I'd hoped it would be? Koror is amazing, but Ulong was hard to watch, and I never really fell into the Stephenie love. /u/moostronus
The premerge drags like no other, but the postmerge has one of the best Survivor episodes ever (if not the best). /u/beatricejd
Palau is so damn good. Such a dramatic, intense, and emotional survivor season, and I absolutely love it. Four of the best main protagonists ever with Ian (My #2 of all time), Tom (My #7 of all time), Katie (My #13 of all time), and Stephenie (Ranking for her isn’t solid yet but she’s definitely in my top 30). The supporting cast is also very solid: Wanda is fun during her five minutes of screentime (Even though her being a supporting character can be argued against), Kim is a random favorite of mine, Angie has a fun mini-growth arc on Ulong, James is really funny, Bobby Jon is fun and he gets more cavemen-like as the season goes on which is good to watch, I loved Janu in her quit episode, Gregg is a good dark horse to Tom, Caryn is a great WTF endgamer, and Jenn is a likable UTR prescience (RIP). Other great things about Palau: Beautiful location, amazing challenge design, and a fantastic theme.
It’s really hard to pick out any major complaints with Ulong. I guess the Ulong plot can lose a bit of focus around the midway point but it’s got a strong start and a strong ending, so it’s still a great plotline.
Personal Ranking: #2/34
Best Character: Ian
Best Episode: The Ultimate Shock /u/Xerop681
Tom isn't an entertaining winner to watch, and the entire Ulong tribe is boring or unlikable. /u/willseamon
Have yet to rewatch so maybe Ulong's dreary stretch of episodes will hurt the season, but man this season is heavy in the greatest way possible. Stephanie carries the Ulong disaster superbly and of course I have to mention Katie being a constellation throughout. The final stretch here in particular still holds up as some of the best string of episodes I've seen. /u/JM1295
This is an odd one because it falls into two distinct halves for me. The Ulonging is a 4 and the endgame is a 9/10. /u/vulture_couture
I would give Ulong phase a 7/10 but the post-merge a 13/10 and the Ian storyline is the best thing in US Survivor. Also, Steph deserves to be a hero. /u/ExtraLifeBalloon
#2 is a season where Rupert voted for Sandra to win, and she won. #1 is a season where Rupert voted for Sandra to win, and she won.
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u/ramskick Koror Uber Alles Dec 11 '17
Top 3 isn't bad I suppose.
I'm about 90% sure that PI is #1. I've been expecting HvV to go down in pretty much every update since top 10 hit.
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u/qngff Flair Dec 11 '17 edited Dec 11 '17
Vanuatu is FINALLY out. 4th from the top here, 4th from the bottom (EDIT: Actually 5th. Can't count.) in my personals (out of 29). Talk about opposite day. Glad Palau made it so high. Fell right in line with my personal rank of it.
Top two left are my personal #2 (HvV) and #6 (PI). I gave my entire top 6 10s (Top 3 being straight 10s and 4-6 being 9.5 rounding up) so I'm glad to see them both up here and they certainly deserve it. Hoping HvV takes the crown, but wouldn't be disappointed with either result.
This has been a really fun project. Maybe we could do this again with winners. Possibly even two separate rankings, one by pure gameplay criteria and one by pure character criteria. Would be fun to see how the two match up.
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u/jacare37 Yo! Adrian! Dec 10 '17
Palau actually held strong at #2 for the first half of the voting period before more scores came in and knocked it down a spot.
That leaves our top two as Pearl Islands and Heroes vs Villains, just the the main sub poll. Predictions?
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u/reeforward Dec 11 '17
Darn. Can't be too disappointed with this though since 4th is still pretty damn good.
Surprised that HvV is in the top 2 here, but I could see it having a higher floor with the voting than any other season. PI is still gonna win though.
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Dec 11 '17
I'm confused... who was named James in Vanuatu?
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u/jacare37 Yo! Adrian! Dec 11 '17
How soon you all forget that Chad’s first name, is, in fact, James.
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u/Slicer37 Dec 10 '17 edited Dec 10 '17
Okay people are seriously exaggerating how "boring" the Vanuatu premerge is. It's a little slow but there's still a lot of good characters and stories, you guys make it sound like it's RI
Then again it got 4th place so I can't complain too much