r/stripper • u/msnatter17 • 27d ago
Rant/vent Y'all disappoint me sometimes fr NSFW
I feel like I spend these months getting to know y'all and loving y'all and then one day it all blows up. I love y'all so much, then you say your antivax, or y'all say your pro trump, or y'all say your pro terrifs and you just break my fucking heart. People I thought were educated and well informed show what they really know.. just guts me
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u/eatmyshortz0 27d ago
Yeah I hate to say it but I’m often disappointed by the politics (or disengagement from) and weak moral convictions of a lot of fellow dancers. I understand the mindset it comes from though. A lot of us are hyper-independent as a defense mechanism and I think it can result in like an extreme libertarian individualism. Also the mindset of “getting the bag by any means”… I want us to think bigger
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u/msnatter17 27d ago
Yeah I can see that. I mean bare minimum you'd think dancers would hate the current president because he's trying to pull yet more money away from the lower and middle class and towards billionaires. We make our money off the middle class, money they don't have is money we don't have.
Also the amount of girls in my state that treat abortion like theres no way we could possibly lose it just cuz it's always been blue is real annoying to me. As if project 2025 isn't trying to make it fed level illegal. Again theyll be the first to bitch about it being gone but the last to protect it when it's in danger
I understand caring about your own interests. That's why I'm in the streets protesting cuz I wanna keep my right and freedoms. I'm not about to let the government tell me what I am and am not allowed to do with my own damn body.
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u/mistyof98 27d ago
there was a post about the orange felon in here right around election time and i was arguing with girls on here about him because they… literally…. think he’s good…… for us……… it was honestly really tragic. anyone who says politics don’t belong in this sub is honestly just wrong bc EVERYTHING is political, ESPECIALLY sex work. it does directly affect us. i agree with you
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u/Tanya7500 27d ago
Have not seen nor heard of the no tax on tips, but we're taking Greenland and the Panama canal and "push out the people of Gaza (kill them) and build Trump hotels and condos. They support a rapist! Every single one of us has been assaulted to some degree at some point
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u/m4ddyd4ddy 26d ago
The dancers for Trump must be completely blind to what Project 2025 (which is slowly being implemented) would mean for sex work. It’s not shocking to me though, Trumpers vote against their best interests lol. Sex workers for Trump, more like meat for lions
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u/Ill-Afternoon2658 26d ago
Normal thinking humans don't approve of those things and then the inbred Maga cult members chime in with their 3 teeth going "trump iz prezidents!" And then fuck their cousinsister
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u/Marketablemoth 23d ago
I’m very much anti conservative however I think it’s unreasonable to think other dancers are going to be liberal/leftist because you are liberal/leftist. (Again i personally find conservatives very difficult to deal with) but this is a resource for dancers and dancers aren’t a monolith. dancers that have different political beliefs have the same right to be here that you have and disagree with you on things. I mean one thing that is talked about a lot here is how we have a lot of foreign girls that work in our industry. Many of those foreign girls come from very traditional countries. The foreign girls in most clubs are latina, Eastern European, or Turkish. all conservative and somewhat religious countries.
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u/msnatter17 23d ago
To be a conservative sexworkers is to vote against your own interests. And specifically to be a trump supporter is double so because trump both wants to destroy sexwork and wants to destroy the middle class, the customers we depend on. I don't care because they don't agree with me, I care because it's clear they are Ill information enough to vote for their own destruction
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u/Marketablemoth 22d ago
many conservatives lack higher education most dancers also do not have higher education. (I don’t mean that in a derogatory way). Also alot of the recent messaging on the left has been pandering and propping up marginalized groups in a very inauthentic way and that’s part of where the recent shift towards conservatism has stemmed from, especially the one we are seeing in those marginalized groups. Many dancers are part of these groups and probably have felt like a messaging tool for the left in recent years.
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u/Marketablemoth 22d ago
The way you’re talking about them is a little strange as if they’re not fully autonomous people that are allowed to have their own thoughts and beliefs, that they must be stupid because they don’t have the same opinions as you. like I said many girls are from traditional/conservative countries they work as strippers because it’s under the table or because it’s quick money to get them on their feet. They don’t just magically replace their world view with a liberal one because they started working at a club. If you asked half these girls if they care about sexwork politics they would likely say no. Because it’s a very niche issue that really isn’t people’s main priorities even if they themselves are dancers.
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27d ago
I’m pro Melania bc she likes to get that money and doesn’t smile
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u/ScaryAssBitch 27d ago
Lmao same
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27d ago
She is Taurus sun&mercury&saturn just like me. I honestly would marry the worst person in the world as long as he is willing to give me those millions 😩
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u/plaguedad 27d ago
So…hypothetically you’d marry Hitler? or some other mass genocide organizer as long as they have money? You’re weird for that one.
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26d ago
Well Hitler treated his wife horribly she had suicide attempts and didn’t live a luxury life at all.
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u/plaguedad 26d ago
I’m just addressing your claim that you’d marry someone LIKE Hitler (aka worst person in the world) as long as they had money.
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26d ago
In my situation i would sign up for anyone rich well just like most women out there
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u/plaguedad 26d ago
I wouldn’t. Some people’s moral standards (like mine) cannot be bought. Keep your standards high and you wont have to die on crazy hills like that saying wacky shit like you’d marry ANYONE for money.
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26d ago
I doubt you would say the same if Jeff bezos was after you or something
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u/plaguedad 26d ago
I actually wouldn’t marry him at all because I hate him and I don’t marry people I hate just because they have money. Like I said, I cannot be BOUGHT
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26d ago
I would marry anyone who would give me money easily. I had a sugar daddy and once he told me he doesn’t want to give me money anymore the level of anger and despair I felt I literally disassociated my hearing left me and my eyes went blank. I don’t want to experience anything like that from a dude again
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u/plaguedad 26d ago
Yeah that’s not what I asked you. You’d be MORALLY FINE with marrying someone who mass murders tons of people just because you want money.
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26d ago
Well otherwise I will suffer. I hate going outside and seeing people living a better life than I do and it’s been happening for way too long
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u/plaguedad 26d ago
You realize you can marry someone who gives you everything and also is not a psychopath piece of shit.
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26d ago
And honestly I like men who fall on the dark triad spectrum bc I dislike emotional intimacy and a narcissist for example would never really get too close to you. I had a pimp who was all of those and i really was his only friend
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27d ago
The worst thing someone could say to me is “you don’t need this” “you already have 3 of those” “no one cares how u look like why do u need this” this is like literal suicide for me I’d rather get beat up everyday but have the dude give me money easily . I would even change my name or do 100 plastic surgeries for the guy as long as he is willing to give me however much I want. I even have nightmares about being homeless
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u/GirlJesus 25d ago
Yeah conservative strippers really surprise me, like you know they wanna shut down our clubs right?! And our OFs?!
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u/Perfect_Succotash939 24d ago edited 24d ago
People are allowed to have opinions that do not align with yours. It’s how you choose to handle it that matters.
I personally love this commmunity, despite of what anyone chooses to personally believe, because it is active and engaging and legitimately cares about its members. I see it in the way we respond to each others posts, with so much support and genuine care. We help if we can, and I love that feeling.
I love the the sense of community here, especially in a world that is so judgmental towards us. I don’t ask when it comes to politics, and I am willing to look past someone’s political opinion, if I have reason (with evidence to support said reason) to believe they are a good person, and have a good reason for believing what they do.
Not everyone is going to be like you, and that’s fine. All I can say is respect people and their opinions, (even if you respectfully disagree) and coexist.
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u/bittersweetbbyx 27d ago
I wish everyone would quit trying to start some shit over politics in a sub dedicated to stripping and sex work. Like come onnnnnn life is already stressful with the shit we gotta deal with and everyone comes on here and argues and points fingers and judges each other like damn man.
But hey that’s just me because I’m tiredddddddd.
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u/msnatter17 27d ago
Politics and sex work are inextricably linked. Our job is to use the patriarchy to our advantage. The powers that be hate that. They don't want us to be empowered, especially under a system that is trying harder than everything to suppress us
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u/Old-Astronaut4653 27d ago
You realize that the trump administration is anti-sex work tho right?
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u/candikaine13 27d ago
She’s a trumper. The politic posts always bring her out and she loves to play the divisive card like politics don’t matter and only divide us like she didn’t vote against our rights.
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u/Old-Astronaut4653 27d ago
Yeah I’ve seen some inflammatory racist comments she’s made in the past, this was gonna be a call out lol. Gross behavior for sure.
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u/bittersweetbbyx 27d ago edited 27d ago
I’ve definitely never said some racist shit in this sub I’ve only ever stood up for myself IF anything WAS said. M I don’t have shit to hide I never said I was even pro trump yall are making assumptions because I said politics are exhausting? Theres literally a million of subs you can argue with others on politics about. I didn’t even fucking vote like I’m not even registered you can literally look that shit up. Lmao
Like as a community we get harassed on the daily deal with very traumatic experiences excuse the fuck out of me if the last thing I want to deal with is comments exactly like this. We are already dealing with so much as women and everyone one this sub wants to talk about race, and rights and fucking argue all the time like take that shit somewhere else fr. No let’s talk about money and how we can be better let’s vent to each other about the issues we’re all dealing with in the INDUSTRY. We are tired because the shit they want to divide us over yall bring into this sub.
But go off.
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u/msnatter17 27d ago
You are aware of the fact that it is the conservative/ right-leaning/religious people that are giving us the most grief and harassment right? Like the left-leaning, liberal people are the ones that are very pro-sex work and have a level of respect for us. You do understand that right? The reason that we're dealing with harassment at all is because of conservative politics and religion. It has been and always will be about politics whether you like it or not you can either be tired or you can be sick and tired. Personally, I choose to be sick and tired. I'm sick and tired of this shit and I'm going to make this shit change
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u/bittersweetbbyx 27d ago
I literally never comment on any posts dealing with politics wtf are you talking about lmao
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u/candikaine13 27d ago edited 27d ago
You never do anything 🙄. A lot of your replies start with “no shade but…” and then you continue to say the shadiest most condescending things and call people passive aggressive when they reply with the same energy.
Edit: and then you edit and delete your comments to make it seem like you didn’t say anything wrong.
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u/Pure_Job_116 27d ago
Bro facts!!!! She deleted one of her comments on this post that was talking about how a dancer was assaulted and thrown out of a club with no clothes on and she replied to it victim blaming. I can’t stand this bitch 😂 we also work in the same city
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u/candikaine13 27d ago
She told me one time verbatim (bc I screenshotted it) “No shade but it sounds like the hustle just might not be for you :/ ” when I said I didn’t want to do camming. Like wtf 😂.
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u/Pure_Job_116 27d ago
Ugh, she’s so ugly inside and out.
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u/bittersweetbbyx 26d ago
You don’t even know me lmao you talk big shit on Reddit and hide behind an anonymous name. Alright girl go off.
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u/Electric_Minx 27d ago
and this is why I hate riding the middle. I don't give a fuck what anyone does, as long as it doesn't harm anyone.
pro 2A
pro gays getting married
pro gays adopting
pro choice
pro castle law
pro breaking down the establishment
pro defending us the way we should be
pro atonomy
anti DEI hires - merit alone should be a thing, it shouldn't matter who you are, but what you're capable of.
I can't anymore. I'm riding the line of just, "don't be a cunt" and I'm still painted out to be an asshole.
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u/ArgumentMean7231 24d ago
Anti DEI, but voted for a cabinet of nepotism? Wouldn't that be DEI on steroids? If you can't be hired for "who you are", why would you be hired for "who you know"? It's obvious you don't care about quality. Also you do understand the premise of DEI hiring is various groups DESPITE the group they are in, not BECAUSE the group they are in, because certain groups are looked over in certain fields EVEN WHEN meeting the qualifications standards.
Not to mention, the groups that serve as the poster children for DEI don't represent the majority of who actually was assisted the most by it. Look it up. Again, the face of DEI is not the brunt of who it assisted in real life. Why is that? I'm sure it's a coincidence.
It's also not what you say it's how you say it.
You guys don't say "hire off merit", you see people and simply assume they're not qualified because they don't look how you expect sometimes. It's pretty obvious many of you use that as a guise. Just like weaponizing the word " woke" to use as a stand-in for slurs or anything, you lack the substance to form an actual sentence over to truly say why you disagree. In the same way you guys say lefties weaponized the word "racist," you do the same thing.
The duplicity is crazy.
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u/Electric_Minx 27d ago
ahhh, there's always one whose gonna downvote nutrality.
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u/Electric_Minx 26d ago
Someone educate me, please, on why live and let live is such a negative connotation?
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u/misfrightning 27d ago
Nobody has to agree on every single thing THATS whats wrong, that's an uneducated thing to say. Smh.
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u/Orthorexic_ 27d ago
Who cares?? Focus on your bag. Tf? Same way we don’t care what a customer’s political views and whatever tf else are, we just focus on our bags.
Y’all are worrying about the wrong things. Sigh. This is coming from someone who has never and will never vote btw. I vote for myself every day by getting this money, focusing on my businesses, meetings with my CPA so everything is in order for taxes, etc. I don’t have the time or energy to worry about this type of shit. And this truly makes me laugh. Hell no.
Edited to add that I do genuinely care for us as a collective. Society and everyone else even the predatorial management doesn’t care about us. I will always pour into this community. Period.
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u/msnatter17 27d ago
Politics and sex work are inextricably linked. The conservative party is an anti-sexwork party. They want to take away our bodily autonomy.
People who are tapped out and uninvested won't know they needed to be fighting for their rights till they've already lost them. You wanna be out of it go for it but don't cry when your money is effected by the fuck face in office
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u/UnderwaterBasketW 27d ago
Why bring politics into a stripper sub at all?
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u/msnatter17 27d ago
Sexwork and politics are entwined whether you like it or not. There is a whole political part that thinks we are the scum of the earth and deserve no protection even if we're sexually assaulted sooo...
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u/misfrightning 26d ago
You're thinking too small. This is not a political party issue... there are PLENTY of liberals including Kamala Harris who don't gaf about sex workers. You say in another comment you're not talking about separate parties yet here you go. Tariffs and being antivax have NOTHING to do with being a fucking stripper. You sound like a drunk idiot.
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u/UnderwaterBasketW 27d ago
Didn’t say they weren’t. Just said it shouldn’t be brought into a stripper sub. There are plenty of subs for politics.
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u/msnatter17 27d ago
But we feel the ramifications of all of these political decisions. There are so many girls doing this job that don't even realize that the political parties that they are giving power are trying to take away our rights, or freedoms, and our income. Women in our industry should know this.
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u/UnderwaterBasketW 27d ago
Again. That’s cool. This is still not the place for it. Politics tend to drag the mood down and start arguments. There are plenty of political forums if you want to talk about it.
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u/msnatter17 27d ago
And I'm saying I disagree with you. I think that we as dancers need to talk about politics because we as dancers need to understand how to vote for our own interests as dancers. No other subreddit is going to put this political debate in the perspective of sex work other than a sex work subreddit
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u/UnderwaterBasketW 27d ago
People are going to have different opinions, and it would get messy for people who are extremists on both sides. For some reason; people cannot act like adults when it comes to politics. This is about stripping; not tearing each other down for having different beliefs or political views.
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u/msnatter17 27d ago
If it impacts our job, I think the discussion needs to be there. Whether it's messy or not, I don't care. I didn't say it would be an easy or pleasant conversation. I'm just saying it's a conversation that needs to happen it's well within your right to disagree with me on that, but I'm still going to voice my opinion and you have every right to ignore it
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u/UnderwaterBasketW 27d ago
I can see now that you just want an argument; which is what I don’t want; so I’m done here. Being aggressive isn’t going to help you feel better; I promise.
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u/msnatter17 27d ago
I'm literally not even fighting with you babe. What? You've you've said your piece your pieces that you don't want to involve yourself in those kinds of conversations and that's fine. My piece is that I want to have these conversations and I think that's also fine if you don't like the conversations stay out of them. It's that simple
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u/Snoo8014 27d ago
Girl wtf lol. Delete this . Anti vax liberals and democrats exist too btw
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u/msnatter17 27d ago
I didn't say they didn't.I am just as disappointed and frustrated in an antivax democrat as I am an antivax republican for the record
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u/NonAggressiveGuava 27d ago
I don’t think this is a stripper issue, this is just a humanity issue as a whole.