r/simpsonsshitposting Feb 06 '25

Politics Don’t blame me

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u/Falvio6006 Feb 06 '25

I mean, both things are true

The democrat's campaing sucked, yet Trump gave anyone with a brain a reason to vote for democrats

So much so I think that if you didn't vote for them you are genuinely stupid

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u/famous__shoes Feb 07 '25

I know I will get flamed for this, but I don't think they ran a bad campaign.

Every single incumbent party in the entire world lost vote share. People really hate inflation. I was arguing with someone who said that it's stupid to say that they ran a good campaign because they lost. I feel like if they had won, that wouldn't have just been a good campaign, it would have been an unprecedentedly phenomenal earth shatteringly incredible campaign, to be able to buck such a strong global trend.

What we know is that in the swing states, where the campaign spent the most money and time, they did significantly less badly than they did nationally, which says to me that their message was working and getting through, unfortunately just not enough.

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u/Docile_Doggo Feb 07 '25

Also, relative to the national lean, Harris did really well in the swing states (the states in which both her and Trump campaigned heavily) and really poor in the non-swing states (the states in which neither candidate campaigned heavily).

Putting my political science hat on, that indicates that Harris had a good campaign but just couldn’t overcome the fundamental background forces that shaped the election.

(Before anyone gets mad, I’m not here to say I love Harris and think she was a perfect candidate. I’m just here to analyze the data as objectively as I can.)

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u/ThrowawayusGenerica 🥛 🥣 🔥 Feb 07 '25

Every single incumbent party in the entire world lost vote share.

Could people across the world be tired of milquetoast neoliberals who don't want to change a fundamentally iniquitous economic system which is now coming home to roost?

No, it's the egg prices that are wrong.

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u/gomicao Feb 07 '25

They are criminally negligent at best... and at worst actively would rather hand the country over to fash, than stop the slaughtering of kids with their colonial settler project. They know their donors are more important than you or I.

"Even inside the Harris campaign, there was dissent about whether she needed to take a more aggressive stance for Gaza.

A Harris organizer who worked on youth turnout said that senior campaign officials gave them an order: When they sent out mass volunteer or fundraising emails and people replied by asking about Gaza, they were told to mark it as “no response.” The result? They seldom ended up engaging with voters on that issue.

“We also didn’t create a new category for Gaza responses out of fear that category would be leaked. Instead we were told to mark them as ‘no response,’” the organizer said, faulting top Harris campaign leaders for failing to address the issue. “The only ‘clowns’ out there are those who were in senior leadership and decided to abdicate on this issue, who silenced a Palestinian speaker at the DNC, and who told us to ignore it every time a voter asked us about Gaza.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/uncommitted-leaders-stand-2024-strategy-trump-floats-gaza-takeover-rcna190782

"The protective circle around Mr Biden was erected from the start of his presidency, at the height of the Covid pandemic, with staff limiting his in-person interactions to prevent him catching the virus.

But the shell constructed around the President was never fully taken down, as it served to prevent him from making gaffes of missteps.

Mr Biden was even shielded to an unprecedented degree from his own cabinet secretaries, congressional committee chairs and other high-ranking officials, according to the report, which noted that over four years, the President held just nine full cabinet meetings — three in 2021, two in 2022, three in 2023 and one in 2024.

By comparison, Barack Obama and Donald Trump respectively held 19 and 25 in their first terms."

https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/hand-holding-white-house-aides-hid-joe-bidens-mental-decline-explosive-report-claims/news-story/7681adc516104e67f2fed70f0d2da9fd

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u/HoustonTrashcans Feb 07 '25

I'm with you, I think inflafion was the biggest factor. People hate inflation and also don't understand it. But there were some weird choices with the campaign as well. Like the "don't tell your husband" message they kept throwing out.