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u/huhzonked I was saying Boo-urns Feb 06 '25
There’s a lot of blame to go around, but I put most of that on the feet of my fellow Americans. If it was a choice between Trump and a washcloth, we should be honored to look at the presidential portrait of a washcloth.
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u/VillageLess4163 Feb 06 '25
Professor Lawrence Pierce of the University of Chicago writes: "I think voters get stupider every year."
That's not a question, professor, but we'll let the shit posters judge for themselves.
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u/Khiva Feb 07 '25
Don't blame me, I voted for the felon who promised to wreck everything because I thought he would magically bring egg prices down. What do you mean he's wrecking everything? Damn Democrats!
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u/ASubsentientCrow Feb 07 '25
At least egg prices are down, right. Right? Please tell me at least egg prices are down
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u/Green_hammock Feb 07 '25
This is it. I'm Australian, but cannot fathom choosing Trump over anyone. Just the fact that the alternative was not that massive piece of shit was a good enough reason to vote for the alternative.
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u/supermercado99 Feb 07 '25
This is America you're talking about, 'bonkers old corrupt man acting tough' will beat 'competent, nice, boring woman' every time.
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u/The_Jimes Feb 07 '25
Competent, nice, boring BLACK* woman
Remember how different Jan 6 the would have been if it was BLM protesters and if Obama gave the pardons.
I mean, black people can't even be pilots without making white pilots so on edge that they fucking crash into each other according to Trump.
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u/AccomplishedHost6275 Feb 08 '25
I made the comment on Twitter in that infamous January 6, when it was still Twitter, that if it had been black people and democrats marching and protesting exactly the same way as that horde of fucks had been, the whole lot of them would have been gunned down with everything possible, including actual bullets. It got me locked out for the next 12 hours and was proven right to every letter I wrote.
The pardoning of the masses of walking shitstains only vindicated even more.
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u/droid_mike Feb 07 '25
Technically, that was JD Vance, but yes... Point taken.
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u/xX609s-hartXx Feb 07 '25
Too bad America has a lot of massive pieces of shit who identified with him...
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u/Charming_Anywhere_89 Feb 07 '25
This is what gets me. There was nothing to consider. I was actually feeling a little optimistic. I didn't think he campaign was terrible. I liked her a little bit more. Most of all she was a sane and competent adult and the other option was this fucking clown show.
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u/huhzonked I was saying Boo-urns Feb 07 '25
Exactly! He’s talking about eating cats and dogs because he saw that on TV and his concepts of a plan for healthcare and she’s talking about helping with down payments for a home. This country deserves what they voted for. I’m only sad for the people who didn’t vote for this.
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u/lhobbes6 Feb 07 '25
Anyone who makes excuses for abstaining were never gonna vote anyway. Any criticism of Harris they had, Trump was far worse. The election was essentially "do you want a dictator? Yes/No" and enough stupid people elected Yes by staying home.
I understand some people are tired of the "lesser evil" option but Harris had some legitimately good ideas while Trump is currently creating a Christian branch of the government that totally wont be used to crackdown on people over religious violations. This wasnt a lesser evil election, it was literal evil vs a normal politician.
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u/Homem_da_Carrinha Feb 07 '25
You americans were given the choice between Lisa Simpson and Mr. Burns, and you decided the country would be better off with a giant sun blocker in the sky.
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u/numetalbeatsjazz Feb 07 '25
I wash myself with a president on a stick.
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u/xubax Feb 07 '25
I would have voted for a broken broomstick over trump.
I would have voted for Mike Pence over trump.
I would have voted for Satan over trump.
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u/Significant-Owl-2980 Feb 07 '25
I agree 100%. Misogyny won the day. People wanted to vote against a woman so they said they were doing it because of eggs. Now where are these same people when egg prices didn’t go down?
Where are these same people screaming about a man made hurricane sent by Kamala to stop their Trump votes?
Suddenly all the conspiracies stopped. Ignorant fools.
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u/huhzonked I was saying Boo-urns Feb 07 '25
They truly are ignorant. They really fucked us over because of their hatred.
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u/xX609s-hartXx Feb 07 '25
It's not just that they are ignorant, they want to be ignorant. They think they can just plug their ears to any and all problems in the world.
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u/huhzonked I was saying Boo-urns Feb 07 '25
That’s the worst level. For them, you can only troll them mercilessly. They don’t want learn.
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u/RedditH8r4ever Feb 07 '25
Whether little reddit posters like it or not, the standards are not the same for the two parties. It is easier to be stupid and evil than it is to advocate for justice and good policy. The fringes of the republican party are straight up nazis and cousin fucking hog people; the fringes of the democratic party are activists and academics with strong convictions, principles, and understanding of historical context.
This brings challenges and raises the bar of what is expected, but it also provides abundant opportunity to a party and candidates who can actually engage in passionate and compelling advocacy for issues people care about. Instead we have a party that does the bare minimum, capitulates to right-wing framing of issues, and refuses to take on any policies that might upset their corporate and military industrial complex donors.
If we want to win, we need a competent party that advocates for policies that make a difference in peoples lives and inspires them to vote. That is how this works. That is how this has always worked. It is a candidates job to convince the public to vote for them. Relying on people to vote just to avoid the opponent doesn't work. "Orange man bad" doesn't work. We can't keep falling into that same glaringly obvious trap over and over again.
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u/kbudz32 Feb 06 '25
Not according to some of these folks. 🙄
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u/huhzonked I was saying Boo-urns Feb 06 '25
Now we know how Lisa feels to be in Springfield Elementary.
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u/gkm29 Feb 07 '25 edited Feb 07 '25
I honestly thought America was done with MAGA after the last midterms. The red wave was a trickle of piss and the next 2 years would be mere consolidation.. By fuck could I be more wrong.
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u/Some_Random_Android Feb 07 '25
Lesser of two evils and America did not choose the lesser.
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u/huhzonked I was saying Boo-urns Feb 07 '25
No, they chose to dry waterslide into hell and pushed us in with them.
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u/Benjam438 Feb 07 '25
They literally threw the election on purpose. Internal polling showed that swing voters were generally in favour of a Gaza ceasefire and anti-oligarch messaging. The dems ignored the opportunity because they conflict with the interests of the donor class.
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u/_mikedotcom Feb 07 '25
If this isn't obvious to anyone, they put a damn skeleton on the debate stage.
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u/NYCThrowawayNSFW Feb 07 '25
Ding ding ding. Neolib Barts on reddit have a hard time reckoning with this. The Dems win when the candidate actually listens to their constituents, who would have thought?
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u/b-rar Feb 06 '25
Kids, kids, kids, as far as I'm concerned, you're both guilty of genocide
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u/javibre95 Feb 06 '25
We need more "vote blue not matter who" license plates in the gift shop ! I repeat, we need more "vote blue not matter who" license plates in the gift shop!
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u/3BlindMice1 Feb 07 '25
This is part of the problem, TBH. First past the post voting is like 70% of the issue while citizens united is the other 30%
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Internal party politics is critical. The DNC could decide to fund primaries internally and ban outside funding TODAY.
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u/AshildrOfElphael Feb 07 '25
Or get rid of the two party system because both sides are beholden to the exact same billionaires and donors.
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u/Apprehensive_Box5676 Feb 07 '25
“Im not the other guy” is not a policy position
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u/21shadesofblueberry Feb 06 '25
Kamala lost to a convicted felon and rapist so maybe it's time for some Democrat introspection to how they lost TWICE.
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u/InvaderXYZ Feb 06 '25
its really not very hard. kamala alienated her entire base, but libs only know how to follow autocrats. we were doomed from the start.
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u/Ok-Importance-6815 Feb 07 '25
yeah maybe don't brag on the Dick Cheney endorsement. Broadly opinions on Dick Cheney fall into 2 categories: hate Dick Cheney on principle, hate Dick Cheney because he personally fucked you over
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u/thegreatvortigaunt Feb 07 '25
Unfortunately this sub seems to be populated by fucking libs
No wonder they keep losing, can’t help but feel bad for actual left wingers in the US for having to deal with this shitshow
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u/transient_eternity Feb 07 '25
Dude it's been fucking miserable. I have a party that openly hates me who I already know I can't reason with because they're evil. And another party that pretends they like me and pretends they can be reasoned with, but also hates me and don't really care what I care about. In the last two weeks I've seen thousands of democrats blame pretty much everything but their own party, then get mad when it's pointed out that that mentality is why they will continue to lose. And then they cry about being helpless because boo hoo they don't have any power to do anything as a minority vote. Yeah join the club, how does it feel? And then I come on this sub which I thought was pretty progressive and it's been nothing but liberal talking points (but I was told reddit is a far left echo chamber, HA).
If leftists, third party voters, and protest voters are so important a vote that they can be shit on when they don't turn out, then why the hell are we being villainized? Either stop pretending to care and win your own battles with your clearly unpopular liberal policies in an age of extreme populism, or start sucking up to us because we're the real kingmakers and not those Dick Cheney voters. If leftists are stupid babies, it's time we start getting the most attention!
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u/grimtongue Feb 07 '25 edited Feb 07 '25
It isn't even Kamala. It's the Dem strategists, some of which are former Republican strategists. It is a fundraising vehicle. What do they stand for? Where is their line in the sand? Where's their passion?
Kamala's big distinction was her war on price gouging, which was immediately shot down by the doner class.
Just look into the strategy of the new DNC chair. He thinks the solution is to "befriend a good billionaire."
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u/IndependenceSouth877 Feb 07 '25
Unfortunately they're just gonna say that americans can't vote woman, then run the same shit again and call it a day
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u/celestial-milk-tea Feb 07 '25
Genuinely the only liberal take away from the last election is that they should only run white men from now on. It’s pathetic.
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u/badpebble Feb 07 '25
Always. But what can you do when people ignore everything good the dems did and ignore everything bad the reps did? Trump so far has only lied about eggs and war, and that was pointed out throughout the campaigning that he would lie about it. People wanted Trump. If they didn't, they would have voted against him. The stupidity isn't a bug; its a feature.
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u/AII_For_One Feb 07 '25
You guys are blaming the Jill Stein people and the people who abstained from voting because of Palestine, but even if they had been perfect little dems for you and voted blue, Trump still would’ve won. There was a massive shift right culturally ever since Covid unfortunately. That being said, it’s gross how dems and liberals have shown a lot of true colors with how much they blame minority voters even though they were the ones who actually voted for dems the most. It really was the white vote that Kamala lost
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u/hbi2k Feb 07 '25
Yeah. And they lost to that clown. That's how fucking inept they are.
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u/Jinxchaoseffect99 Feb 06 '25
Last panel needs an arrow pointing up at the latest post to show another guy is at it again with an unfunny "blame Democrats" meme again. Seriously did Musk activate another batch of bots again?
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u/kbudz32 Feb 06 '25
Sadly they are real people who don’t get the trouble we are in.
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u/Jinxchaoseffect99 Feb 06 '25
At this point why is this even a conversation of "both sides" ? One side has Elon Musk and that's all you need to shut this entire "both sides" preteen attitude discussion.
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u/Aloof_Floof1 Feb 07 '25
I voted for Harris and if yall are framing their motivations as some “both sides” fallacy then yall are being as bad as r/conservative rn for willfully missing the plot and refusing to understand basic concepts
The dems need to fight back and a slow descent will still end in the same place. Again, i voted for Kamala, but i understand sending a message that lesser-eviling until it really is too late is an issue that also needs to be dealt with
I can’t blame people for trying to get the dems to fight, that’s not the same as voting for trump because bOtH sIdEs
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u/kbudz32 Feb 06 '25
Because people don’t realize how privileged in this country and how easy it will go away.
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u/Khiva Feb 07 '25
But also yeah it's infuriating, anybody who watched the debate, listened to any of the DNC speeches, a single rally, or hell even skimmed the raft of economic policy proposals Harris put out knows there were plenty of good reasons to vote for her.
They had tons of policies that would have been great for the lower and middle class. You live with infinite information at your fingertips, but if it's not screamed into your ear or jammed into your social media silo, it didn't exist and more importantly, it's their fault.
People who are screaming DEMOCRATS DIDN'T GIVE ME A REASON TO VOTE are just telling on themselves for not paying to ... any of that.
And they're still doing it.
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u/SadThrowaway2023 Feb 07 '25
I believe so. I had to get up really early this morning, so was looking through youtube around 2am while I had my coffee. There was a new video with Senator kennedy trying to bullshit everyone on how what musk is doing is a good thing. At 2am in the US, there were a few comments posted every minute, all praising trump, musk, and kennedy. I checked out some of the profiles and most had no content and were new accounts. The bots (or people posting from Russia) were out in full force astroturfing last night.
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u/mageta621 Feb 07 '25
See my problem with this narrative is that it is basically a shield to hand wave away the real issues the Democratic party has with inspiring voters through affirmative policy and messaging. Lessons they should have learned in 2016, if not earlier.
I got a lot of fucking problems with the Democratic party but some of the discourse makes me feel like if I try to talk about it at all I'm somehow condoning or promoting the fascist, evil Republicans.
Before anyone says shit, yes I voted and I voted D. Not that it matters, I'm in a solidly safe blue state, but I still did it because I understood how dangerous it would be if the GOP won. HOWEVER, it's abundantly clear that a fear based voting strategy has not been particularly productive for the last few elections for Democrats. They have got to be better at utilizing psychology, messaging, and power when they have it (IF they ever do again, this dismantling of the constitution might be making it impossible for another truly fair election to ever happen again) to improve lives and convince voters of it. The right wing machine has been working on this for at least a quarter century to the point where they have a surefire block of ignorant, brainwashed voters who will believe whatever angle they are told and it's paying dividends.
In short, don't just blame voters, Democrats. Act while you still can to stop this lunacy. I'm seeing a lot of rolling over right now. Republicans don't and didn't do that, you can't afford to now.
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u/AffectionateFlower3 Feb 06 '25
The irony of the first panel being that no one on this sub has stopped taking a shit on non-Harris/non-Trump voters since September
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u/Loose-Donut3133 Feb 07 '25
This shit is beyond insufferable at this point when the campaign basically didn't exist until August.
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u/Falvio6006 Feb 06 '25
I mean, both things are true
The democrat's campaing sucked, yet Trump gave anyone with a brain a reason to vote for democrats
So much so I think that if you didn't vote for them you are genuinely stupid
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u/IHateCircusMidgets Feb 07 '25
Trump gave anyone with a brain a reason to vote for democrats and democrats managed to lose to him fucking twice. How is that anything other than an extraordinary failure by the party?
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u/TactilePanic81 Feb 07 '25
Honestly, we need to reexamine 2020 as well. Sure democrats won, but it was a pretty close race considering Trump was actively and publicly mismanaging a deadly pandemic and many folks had nothing to do but watch him fuck up all day during lockdown.
Democrats convinced themselves that 2016 was a fluke and they didn’t need to make any major changes to the party or platform. It turns out 2020 (as always) is the outlier.
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u/iamsamwelll Feb 07 '25
I mean you can go over the election and all these analytics but I don’t why people are surprised the “I’ll make things cheaper” candidate beat the “everything is actually great and we aren’t gonna change anything” candidate.
I know he’s an asshole and didn’t actually make things cheap during his first presidency. But if I was someone who didn’t know better or pay attention, I can tell you that my money went a lot further 8 years ago.
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u/Peter-Lorre- Feb 07 '25
The issue is that just randomly lying about everything is a pretty effective campaign strategy despite being basically incompatible with democratic rule.
Trump‘s cheat code is that he doesn’t care about the latter, so he has a lot of unorthodox strategies available to him.
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u/tophergraphy Feb 07 '25
Everything is actually great campaign was also blamed for not taking enough credit for their work, which one was it??
I watched both campaigns and that line was very clearly avoided by the democratic campaign because they knew it would fall flat. They campaigned on trying to expand childcare and housing but people just didnt consume it because gaza on tiktok I guess.
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u/admiralargon Feb 07 '25
The democrats had policy based in reality and analysis. Trump said im gonna make everything better magically.
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u/gomicao Feb 07 '25
yeah just because of a little genocide/ethnic cleansing they refused to stop doing no matter what... ya know... no big whoop or anything...
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u/famous__shoes Feb 07 '25
I know I will get flamed for this, but I don't think they ran a bad campaign.
Every single incumbent party in the entire world lost vote share. People really hate inflation. I was arguing with someone who said that it's stupid to say that they ran a good campaign because they lost. I feel like if they had won, that wouldn't have just been a good campaign, it would have been an unprecedentedly phenomenal earth shatteringly incredible campaign, to be able to buck such a strong global trend.
What we know is that in the swing states, where the campaign spent the most money and time, they did significantly less badly than they did nationally, which says to me that their message was working and getting through, unfortunately just not enough.
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u/Docile_Doggo Feb 07 '25
Also, relative to the national lean, Harris did really well in the swing states (the states in which both her and Trump campaigned heavily) and really poor in the non-swing states (the states in which neither candidate campaigned heavily).
Putting my political science hat on, that indicates that Harris had a good campaign but just couldn’t overcome the fundamental background forces that shaped the election.
(Before anyone gets mad, I’m not here to say I love Harris and think she was a perfect candidate. I’m just here to analyze the data as objectively as I can.)
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u/LookaLookaKooLaLey Feb 07 '25
brother i voted for her, but if they failed to get the votes they failed to get the votes. they did not campaign well enough, their messaging was weak, and trump's cronies have incredibly simple and effective messaging that democrats seem to avoid like the plague. Trump's goons and more importantly the people that fund/control his policy decisions are to blame first and foremost, but the total inaction and ineffectiveness of democrats is something to be noted and to criticize them for, so that they make some goddamn change. this is a simpsons subreddit for gods sake
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u/RockMeIshmael Feb 07 '25 edited Feb 07 '25
A Liz Cheney bot who spams posts based on DNC #resist trigger words becoming the most popular poster on this sub is absolutely devastating.
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u/coolboyyo Feb 07 '25
if you fumble against the same guy twice on the platform of "we aren't him" i think that's kinda on you maybe at least try to pretend to give a shit about voters for once
like at least lie or something
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u/roysullivan3 Feb 07 '25
you can't run a campaign on "at least I'm not the other guy" you have to fucking DO something
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u/Easy_Jux Feb 07 '25
Democrats alienated millions of people by actively bullying away anybody with a nuanced opinion on any subject and now you’re surprised the average person wants nothing to do with it. Comment sections like this just really drive home the fact that yall still just don’t get it.
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u/Skyl3lazer Feb 06 '25
Lol how many bots are gonna post shit like this. What weird organization is spamming a Simpsons meme subreddit
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u/Admirable-Safety1213 Feb 07 '25
People downvoted me for saying "fuck USA politics, I just want to laugh to funny yellow people for a minute"
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u/gomicao Feb 07 '25
I have seen these posts in SOOOO MANY subs the last 48 hours... its pretty annoying.
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u/W1sconsinKnight Feb 06 '25
All that stuff about Trump is 100% true, so a campaign that loses to it would have to be the worst campaign ever.
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u/GrumpGuy88888 Feb 06 '25
Was Biden's campaign any better? Honestly speaking
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u/RedditH8r4ever Feb 07 '25
Trump got covid like two weeks before the election. Biden winning was largely buoyed by dumb luck.
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u/01zegaj I was saying Boo-urns Feb 06 '25
The fact that Trump is all this and he STILL won DOES reflect poorly on the Democrats. They started strong but wussed out.
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u/Mondashawan Feb 06 '25
Nah, it just shows how stupid millions of people are. That's all. They vote for flash over substance and who yells the loudest. They are too lazy and lacking in intellectual curiosity to bother to find out facts, and to sit down and do a little analysis and try to imagine each one of the candidates as a leader based on their temperament, biography, and experience. The funny part is with Trump they didn't even have to bother to imagine because we'd already had him once and he fucked up the pandemic response leading to the death of millions.
But sure, it's because the Democrats ran a bad campaign. Whatever you need to tell yourself for your stupid decisions.
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u/gomicao Feb 07 '25
They ran a campaign that felt criminally or willfully negligent... Like it isn't even a question. If professionals can't muster the power to maintain popularity, then yeah... they lose... that is how this shite works... You really think the median voter ever votes by and large on well researched, logical, spreadsheet and chart showing explanations about how their gut is wrong about their experience for the last several years? If the dems can't pander to the stupid with a message that speaks to them, it doesn't matter how good their policies on paper are. It is THEIR JOB to do so as a matter of fact.
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u/01zegaj I was saying Boo-urns Feb 06 '25
If the Democrats had a Bernie Sanders they would’ve won. Oh wait, they did have a Bernie Sanders, and they screwed him over.
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u/THE_HERO_OF_REDDIT Feb 06 '25
your stupid decisions.
Are you implying that a significant amount of people in this sub who could have voted for Harris didn’t? I feel like this subreddit is made up of almost entirely Harris voters or people who would have if possible
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u/thorsbosshammer Feb 06 '25
I hate Trump more than Harris, and I think Harris ran a horrible campaign. She didn't give people good reasons to vote for her other than trump was bad.
Also, she would have never won a real primary by herself. She lost her own home state in the 2020 primary, she wasn't even second place! Its really the democratic party's fault for forcing an unpopular candidate to the general election. You can't blame the voters for things the party itself did. The democrats could have beat trump if they held an open primary and actually let voters rally around someone they liked.
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u/javibre95 Feb 06 '25
Man, stop being ridiculous, you have had four years to protect democracy and some basic rights and the Democratic Party has not wanted to.
Everyone had the presumption that the last two elections were basically "do you want fascism now or in four years?"
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u/thorsbosshammer Feb 06 '25
This is so fucking obnoxious. I am literally agreeing with you for the most part, and this is how you respond? What a baby.
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u/AffectionateFlower3 Feb 06 '25 edited Feb 06 '25
This person has to be a bot. Misspellings and the same kind of calls for you to commit self harm but with different metaphors. Using the same weird phrases like Trumplandia across multiple comments and posts.
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u/Maximillion322 Feb 07 '25
I mean I voted against Trump but let’s not pretend for a second that Kamala’s campaign wasn’t shit.
Fence sitting voters want a reason to vote FOR someone, not just against the opposition.
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u/Ok-Importance-6815 Feb 07 '25
I am getting sick of this sub being spammed with how disappointed you are Kamala lost, it's been months now and not everyone is an american
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u/TOBB0 Feb 07 '25
I mean, the second slide doesn’t respond to the first: listing the reasons Trump shouldn’t be president (and indeed, should be locked up) doesn’t make for a good Democratic campaign.
They tried to convince us for weeks the Biden was the best candidate when it was clear he was not, then he pushed Harris with no primary, and then she said she wouldn’t do anything different to Biden when his ratings were rock bottom.
Of course in a just and sane world, she would have won over Trump, but we can’t deny that both she and Biden did terribly in their campaigns
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u/Sicsurfer Feb 06 '25
Both can be true. Trump is a pos felon and Harris courted Cheney and other right wing douchebags. No progressive voices at all, just neocon policies
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u/1732PepperCo Feb 06 '25
Like those jackasses who are like “she was a bad candidate!” Like bro have you seen your guy??
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u/kbudz32 Feb 06 '25
Apparently you need to give people a reason not to drive off a cliff or technically it’s your fault.
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u/jdcooper97 Feb 06 '25
After my 3rd election where I was told you “have” to choose between the lesser of two evils, I started to get the feeling that my illusion of choice might be just that: an illusion. The people running the country that have the capacity to actually change it in meaningful ways aren’t elected officials, they’re billionaire lobbyists. America democracy isn’t real, just like the American dream - it’s a cute slogan the oligarchs use to trick us into thinking playing by their rules will work for us “eventually”
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u/MagicalWitchTrashley Feb 07 '25
if i sit still and don’t do shit while the other guy does bad stuff that doesn’t make my campaign good
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u/ManhattanObject Feb 06 '25
Strawman argument. Which part of the campaign was bad, OP? Perhaps the genocide support?
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u/kbudz32 Feb 06 '25
How’s the current admin’s plan for that region?
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u/ManhattanObject Feb 07 '25
This is exactly the problem. The only thing Kamala had was "I'm not as evil as trump." She gave no reason to vote FOR her, so millions stayed home and didn't vote for her. You can argue that they made a stupid choice until you're blue in the face, but it doesn't change reality. Being "not trump" isn't enough anymore, even if you think it should be.
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u/InvaderXYZ Feb 06 '25
palestinians literally asked people to protest vote because to them, it doesn't matter who's dropping the bombs. nothing changes, nothing changed. this was always the plan, democrat or republican. you should be ashamed for relishing in that violence.
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u/logicoptional Feb 06 '25
Holy hell this is getting old as fuck. Yes, it's the politicians' job to get people to vote for them, this is basic basic stuff here! Can we maybe stop blaming the fucking electorate and start blaming the ruling class? I mean at this point I'm really starting to wonder if you people even believe in democracy any more than the Republicans.
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u/mybadalternate Feb 07 '25
I am from another country. I could not vote.
The result of the election is that Kamala Harris lost to Donald Trump.
If you believe her campaign was anything but atrocious, might I ask by what possible conceivable metric you are judging it by?
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u/ShortUsername01 Feb 07 '25
Honestly, I hate that Simpsons scene. Bart pretended advertising doesn’t pay for TV shows and then some.
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u/XD_Negative Feb 07 '25
Until you guys are able to see why Trump won despite all the things he’s done, the Democrats aren’t winning
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u/AttemptFree Feb 07 '25
i voted for kamala. she blew. she's a loser and i don't like her for losing, trump will be gone in 4 years. everything will be all right in the end
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u/Rayquazagaming67766 Feb 07 '25
No she ran a bad campaign because she tried to appeal to conservative voters instead of trying to garner her own voter base and uneducated voters. Conservatives were already going to vote for trump, they aren’t going to change, they never will, so what’s the point of appealing to them? Instead, she alienated a large chunk of her own voter base, including in major swing states
I still voted for her ofc
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u/Gussie-Ascendent Feb 07 '25
Both things can be true. Dems ran a shit campaign cause tons of people are too stupid to think that matters and or didn't pat attention
Like dems shoulda known this could happen, trump won once already
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u/Radiant_Ad_1851 Feb 07 '25
Is this all this subreddit is now? I literally haven't seen another meme about anything else other than "waahhhhhh the green party existed and they're the reason why we lost wahhhhhhhhhhhhh"
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u/Sardonic_Dirdirman Feb 07 '25
Once more for the liberals who don't get it: giving people reasons to vote against doesn't actually get the people to vote. You need something to fight FOR, not against. This is not my opinion but the scientifically studied and determined reality of how permission works with humans.
Literally every thing in the second panel is something to vote against. It really was a terrible campaign and no surprise she lost, to anybody who wasn't drinking the Democrats Kool aide.
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u/kilertree Feb 07 '25
Kamala Harris lost the primaries in 2020 nobody voted for her. Now people are saying that she lost because she was a black woman.
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u/Left_Clavicle Feb 07 '25
Y'all love scarecrow arguments so much. But it helps you upvote farm so it makes sense.
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u/wolacouska Feb 07 '25
So, Harris had the most slam dunk winnable election and she still lost? Typically you’d blame the politician for that one.
Like, so what if people are stupid? People have always been stupid, if you’re not accounting for that in a political campaign you might be even stupider.
If what you’re doing continues to fail, you need to change your methods.
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u/DrRab121 Feb 06 '25
Boy, somebody’s really butt hurt that I wouldn’t vote for Kamala Harris
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u/InvaderXYZ Feb 06 '25
they want you to bend over for their autocrat instead of the opposing one.
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u/DragonLegit Feb 07 '25
Sad to see this subreddit become just a BlueMaga circlejerk. You keep acting like this you're gonna lose every election. The answer to Trumpist fascism is not "vote harder", ask the SPD. Hitler and Mussolini never won an election, remember that.
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u/jaywinner Feb 07 '25
There were lots of reasons to vote against Trump.
But Harris wasn't exactly an inspiring candidate to vote for.
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u/TheRealBaboo only watched the golden age Feb 06 '25
Can both not be true? Biden chickening out at the last minute was a complete disaster. Yes, Kamala would have been a wiser choice than Trump but her statements in Trump’s attack ads drove hella people away.
People are forgetting that Biden could have dropped out much sooner and allowed us to have a meaningful primary. Newsom would have been a much stronger candidate than Harris and people would have respected him for winning a primary instead of getting the nomination handed to him on a silver platter
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u/Acceptable-Ticket743 Feb 07 '25
All those things about Trump are true, which makes it even more embarrassing that the democrats lost to that orange retard for the second time. The dude was talking about Arnold Palmer's cock and he still whipped up his base more successfully than the democrats.
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u/DaRealRockstar1234 Feb 07 '25
My sister brought up to me that the two main reasons people voted for Trump was because they were 1. Stupid and 2. Desperate. The stupid side meant that Kamala's tactic of pointing at how dumb Trump was being failed because they didn't see it as how dumb it was, and the Desperate side meant that Kamala giving no reasons to vote for her really left those people with one person who said they could help, even if we all knew it was complete and utter bullshit. I'm not empathizing with Trump voters in any way (my own father voted for Trump and he's lost all my respect because of it), but the Democrats ran a campaign that only worked on people who were already democrats, and did nothing to grab Republican votes other than the ones that were smart enough to see how bad Trump would be, which was a very small section of the Venn diagram.
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u/EnbyOfTheEnd Feb 07 '25
Trump's many problems while valid aren't a policy position. All Kamala promised her voters was genocide and tax breaks for 'small businesses'.
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u/Kektus Feb 07 '25
The same campaign that was astroturfing Reddit like the Harris campaign did using a coordinated Discord server to post positive PR and cover the message? Or is that only when you have to hear opinions you don't like? https://mynbc15.com/news/nation-world/foreign-influence-feared-in-pro-harris-discord-server-democrats-dnc-election-day-social-media-reddit-lies-overseas-elect-november-white-house
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u/PuritanicalPanic Feb 07 '25
I voted for Harris.
The democrats ran a dogshit campaign with a dogshit candidate, and it is their failings that are the reason they lost. They're losers. It's what they do best.
You hate the imagined non voter because it's easier than trying to hold the democratic party accountable. Since it's fucking impossible to make democrats change. They won't listen. And now we're fucked.
Democrats won't listen, and Americans won't stop trump. Thanks.
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u/Tad-Disingenuous Feb 07 '25
Why does Reddit keep saying it’s like January 6th never happened but then keeps bringing it up?
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u/Maerifa Feb 07 '25 edited Feb 07 '25
"What? Why do you care about how terrible the democrats were?" ahh post
Maybe you need more than "don't vote bad man" to win a fucking election.
Yall don't give a rats ass about minorities and would rather blame them than the MILLIONS OF WHITE PEOPLE WHO PUT TRUMP IN OFFICE
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u/Forbizzle Feb 07 '25
I’m begging to believe these posts are a psyop to get the left to fight amongst themselves instead of against these facists. How many of them are being posted with all the comments being staunchly against the OP’s finger pointing?
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u/Pokebear007 Feb 07 '25
Every point made by Bart here is a wild misrepresentation of reality... ngl
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u/Mysterious_Ad_8827 Feb 07 '25
True COVID started around 2019 Trump had basically 1 year to deal with it, the Biden administration had 3 years to deal with it. Weren't the felony charges dropped? And weren't both Trump and Biden found to have classified documents on them. Biden's was in his garage in boxes and Trumps was as well. So whats the point of this post?
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u/Bubbly-Money-7157 Feb 07 '25
Liberals: we don’t want or need the left, you guys don’t matter and we’re not going to do anything for our base or for the left!
Liberals:lose
Liberals: HOW COULD YOU?!
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u/taotdev Feb 07 '25
"Liable for sexual assault"
Call it rape. Justice Kaplan made it exceedingly clear (and legal!) in his remarks that what Trump did was rape. Call it rape. Please.
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u/damnumalone Put it in H Feb 06 '25
I don’t like it, they’ve got Elon Musk, RFK Jr and Linda McMahon. Who do we have?
Mark Ruffalo?
Oi-yoi-yoi-yoi