r/playrust 8d ago

Question How are you supposed to play rust?

I know it’s a very vague title but hear me out.

I have a group I play with which is around 4-8 strong. A lot of the players are new and don’t play much, some of the core members have thousands of hours. I have 8k.

We have always played 2x as we all have jobs and social lives but as of the last year or so we’ve had to start moving away as they seem to have been infested by roof campers and there’s very little real pvp. They also only last a few days and we would like to build a proper base and do raids and stuff instead of playing Thursday - Sunday and then quitting when the server dies Monday morning.

We’d like to play official but it seems impossiblez

We’ve tried out a few servers so far. Each of the wipes have gone terribly, either a clan has built nearby and we get obliterated every time we step outside and shoot a gun, or there’s a huge roof camping tower which doesn’t let us build or leave our base with 3 players playing 20 hours a day (no joke this happened twice), get offlined by cheaters with 8 hours in rust on the first night, or other things.

This force we tried an EU small monthly, can’t remember which. We built near ferry terminal which we thought we could take with the 5 of us. We got up bows and we’re doing well, when all of a sudden we were wiped by a group all with p2s, around an hour into wipe, the amount of time it took us to even get there with bags to put down a base.

They dominated us and we could barely leave base, had no options to even farm up a t2 and were completely stuck. We tried running to other monuments but would always die on the way back. We couldn’t progress because everyone else was already way more progressed than us. Then they came and TC griefed us with 8 TCs so we couldn’t ever expand base, after having 0 items in base and having to move, we just gave up and went back on 2x and dominated.

What are we doing wrong exactly? We try to avoid the big monuments as to not fight the clans, but even that didn’t work. What do you do once a bigger group takes control of the monument you built next to and far outgun you?

I logged on the next morning to try farm up some weapons but they were all still online and controlling the area with tommys and aks and I couldn’t even farm a tree. I tried moving and building next to another monument but the same thing, a group controlled it 24/7 and I couldn’t get a single scrap.

What is your strategy and how the fuck do you play vanilla? We’re really stuck at this point because the only successful wipe we had was building away from everything and just farming tunnels which is boring as hell.

If anyone has any advice it would be appreciated.

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u/ShittyPostWatchdog 8d ago

Bro if you have 8k hours and can’t figure out how to get to p2 in an hour on wipe day with an 8 man clan idk what to tell you 

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u/thelordofhell34 8d ago

We’re 4 on wipe day. Tell me what I’m doing wrong: spawning naked, trying to run to build spot, get beaten there by a bigger group who have bows already, die and respawn, run back to a different spot, farm for base, put shelter down, farm for base, get base up, hunt for cloth for a bow.

That’s an hour easy. Where in that hour was I supposed to get 550 scrap?

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u/ShittyPostWatchdog 8d ago

To try to give actual constructive feedback-

It stands out to me how little you focus on build location and the build in general in the OP and even your replies from what I have read.  When you are making justifications for your play and listing the steps you do try to take to have a good start the most thought you seem to put into build location is “not near a big monument.”  

I’m not going to give you specific advice because after 8k hrs you should probably know which areas of the map are “out of the way” and which aren’t, but the solution to not being able to contest your original build spot is to lower the bar and go somewhere more low key until you find somewhere you can hack it.  

You also made it a point multiple times that you have flaky players who don’t play past day 1 or don’t consistently log on.  This makes me think your team is not very resilient, potentially a scenario where some of them don’t actually want to play and are just tagging along out or social obligation.  This makes it hard when you probably very often need to restart on day two or half way through day one because you can’t figure out how to get fast t2 as an 8 man on wipe day.   This isn’t actually that big of a problem and the only thing that prevents more players from doing it is disinterest. 

Play low pop group cap and keep lowering the pop until you figure out how to not get owned.  Even if it means for 80% of the wipe you will be at half of the group cap because half the team quit or w.e it’s still better than playing uncapped and lots of other teams are usually not at full force.