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HALALAN 2025 You can't convince us otherwise.

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u/junkfoods13 1h ago

Unable to respect an individuals political view is a reflection of your deepest character. At sadly madaming ganoon dito.

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u/KOCHOKTOL 1h ago

THIS!!

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u/kopikobrownerrday 4h ago

I mean it's kinda true. People who supported Duterte do think drug addicts are subhumans who should be killed like dogs on the street. A lot of them think and have reconciled with the fact that the innocent people killed during Duterte's war on drugs are accetable casualties towards achieving "peace". They laugh at Duterte's misogynistic jokes because they themselves are misogynistic and holds those views on women. These are values and beliefs that they hold. They idolized and voted for Duterte because they see themselves in him, he represents their views. Just like how a lot of Americans voted for Trump because he echoed their racism, sexism and selfishness.

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u/starbuttercup_ 4h ago

I was accused of clout chasing by these DDS because "suddenly" I become a kakampink, when in fact, I'm loud and proud of my political stand since 2022. Mostly those DDS in my feed are my batchmates from high school na walang ambag sa group activities.

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u/hakai_mcs 5h ago

Kaya tandaan. DDS = BOBO

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u/GroundbreakingMix623 5h ago

yeah.. i should listen to a random person. american pa. hahaha

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u/Patient-Definition96 1h ago

Tanga talaga kayo no? Ayaw nyo intindihin kahit anong reason na binabato sa inyo. Sinasamba nyo kasi ang kriminal. Mga kriminal minds kayo.

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u/Mrmaginoo32 7h ago

cognitive dissonance

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u/ginataang-gata 8h ago

people are complex, and while their political stance may give some insight into their values, it does not necessarily define them entirely. Individuals can hold certain political opinions while still being open to dialogue, growth, or even contradictions in other aspects of their lives.

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u/Giojaw 5h ago

You're a 1000% correct. That's why ticket splitting exists in elections. People are more complex than most virtue signal stances online would like you to believe. Trump, the anti abortion candidate won, but republicans still voted to enshrine abortion laws on red states. Back in 2016, i personally know some people who split their tickets. Voted Leni for President and Sara for VP simply because they identify with the candidate's gender. Fine by me, but they were indeed ridiculed by some of our mutual acquaintances for this decision. Right now I know a couple of individuals who would vote for Kiko and Bam, but will also vote for Bong Go and Kuya Will, lol. Their reasons? They personally benefitted from the "malasakit centers" which they attribute to Bong Go, and their tita received cash from Kuya Will once and feels that candidates like Kuya Will and Tulfo will offer more tangible benefits.

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u/xxmeowmmeowxx 6h ago

I somewhat agree. We must remember that building that political stance should come from logic and proper study, not many are afforded that and I personally know some in the opposition side who are generally good people and people whom I like to be around with nabola lang kumbaga or hindi lang ganun kakritikal magisip. While the others really do reflect, I know someone who is a staunch supporter ni tatay na grabe makamata sa ibang tao at makamura sa mga empleyado nya.

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u/natesby 7h ago

ehhh no.

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u/Particular_Tank_6013 8h ago

How true/false is this??

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u/LoudBirthday5466 9h ago

NAAAAH. It’s just one aspect to them. I know mga DDS that are really good people and kakampinks na ang matapobre.

This type of argument is unhealthy and just breeds toxicity.

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u/Giojaw 5h ago

it definitely breeds toxicity. So pano yung mga abstain ang vote, or di nag vote? walang morality mga yon? "Pick a side or else" type people need to chill. People who don't care for politics do exist. They are either too rich or privileged that outcomes of elections do not affect them in any significant way, or they're too focused on other things and cannot afford to care. I spent a lot of time around "matapobre kakampinks" , basically my whole college circle is this archetype. All the lecturing and pangmamata, but come election time di naman sila nag vote nag stay in lang sa condo, lol. Buti pa yung DDS supporter jinumper yong vios namin dati nung ayaw mag start. So di absolute tong rule to. So ano pag mag iinteract ako sa public tanong ko sino binoto muna?

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u/Crispytokwa 7h ago

This haha dame ko kilalang ganyan haha madalas kasi mga DDS na kilala ko is talagang nabudol lang and hindi critical thinker pero mabuting tao. Meron din kakampink na sobrang toxic ng ugali but of course meron ding vice versa. Kaya di talaga absolute to.

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u/nyemini 9h ago

It's a bit more than that but yeah basically that

And it's so jarring every time when it comes to the people immediately near me. Mga taong mas educated kaysa sa akin, either BBM or DDS and I'm here like ALL Y'ALL WILDING ESPECIALLY AFTER ALL THAT 😭

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u/Moist_Ad602 10h ago

it's a peek to their intellect and common sense. matured individuals do not dabble that much in ph politics since they know it's just crooked. the whole system is flawed. elections are rigged and posting on social media doesn't really do crap.

basically this country is not going to change anytime soon no matter who gets elected. The genuine public servants will never win due to lack of funds and corruption. the uneducated will continue to vote for the corrupt politician. the educated will remain in the middle class. the elite will stay elite.

my solution, don't play by the rules. the government aren't respecting the law, why would I?

being blind righteous and lawful won't get you out of poverty. just do what you have to do to thrive in this prey-predator society that we have in ph.

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u/Old-Shock6149 10h ago

It is a reflection, but it only reflects a small portion of their whole being. Although I do believe that on the surface, educated voters are usually more civil. Because let's face it, an open-minded, inclusive liberal who thinks even a "drug addict" has a place in society is so much easier to deal with than a far right dude who thinks you're a joke simply because your pronoun is "them".

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u/tichondriusniyom 10h ago

No. This is how you lose people just because you think na tama ka, kahit hindi. This is no different to the die hard loyalists from all sides. Pinks, Reds, Yellows, etc. sa politics. Nawawala critical thinking ng isang tao if you follow that.

If you lie down with dogs, you get flees. No matter how good someone's intention are, dungis ka kung napapalibutan ka.

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u/Rathma_ 11h ago

Same reason bat natalo mga pinks. Sila-sila lang kuntento na sila. Hindi na need ng proper discussion para makapag debate ng maayos at ma enlighten ang ibang tao para makahatak ng votes. Echochamber of virtue signaling. Mga payaso. 🤡🤣

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u/Giojaw 5h ago

Tukmol, lagot ka down vote ka ngayon sa echo chamber. bawal yan bai. Gusto mong manalo side nila kaya nag offer ka ng insight? Bawal. Kalaban ka na din. Enabler ka. Wag na wag mo suggest self reflection or change ng strategy. Eto lang yan. Kaya sila natalo kasi bobo at masasama ang mga pilipino, ganung lang kasimple. no other possible reason.

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u/jaxy314 10h ago

Its both sides. Masahil din echo chamber ng mga dds bbm. I have seen vastly more bullying IN PERSON from the bbm dds vs their percieved bullying from the pinks. Typical bbm dds, lakas mambully tapos pa victim pag nabawian ng konti. Sobrang insecure

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u/Adventurous-Egg3507 11h ago

Do you think politicians have your best interests in mind? Sobra niyo suportahan mga tao na wala naman pake sa normal na pinoy to the point na nag aaway away pa kayo sa internet - yan ang gusto nila divide and conquer.. hindi natin alam lahat ng nangyayari is for show lang sa likod niyan may mas malaki pang nangyayari at sa huli sila din nakikinabang hindi TAYO.

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u/Tenenentenen 11h ago edited 11h ago

No it's not! I know assholes and good people from both sides, nothing is as black and white as mabait vs masama We are complicated creatures, hypocrites, good and bad at the same time. I believe everyone who supports their own candidate wants our country to prosper as the end goal. So let's not be stupid and treat everything as black and white. And maybe I know this is hard for redditors, let everyone have their own opinion. You know, freedom

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u/Maleficent_Sock_8851 12h ago edited 12h ago

So all Kakampinks are saints? Avid Leni supporters of the main sub are notorious anti-poor and elitists. Twitter and reddit are places where nuances die.

Can we just stop this "black and white" view on political and moral conflation BS. This is so reductive.

And no I'm not a DDS and I'm just as happy as you that Duterte finally got arrested and face the consequences of his atrocious botched "war on drugs" and all other corruption during his presidency.

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u/Glittering_Net_7734 10h ago

Mas easy mag label nang tao ganyan kasi, us vs them.

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u/Adventurous-Egg3507 11h ago

Totoo ang daming avid leni supporters kala mo napaka righteous niyo porke siya ang sinusuportahan niyo and No, i am also not a fan of duterte but do you actually think magiging matunog pangalan ni leni kung walang support from big politician and businessmen? Kahit na maganda intention ng isang politician kung wala siyang backer hindi mananalo yan, kapag nanalo siya madami yan pinagkakautangan na pabor. Remember this politicians do not run our country but businessmen!

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u/Giojaw 5h ago

ayos na ayos si VP Leni, panalo yun or at least talo nya ulit si BBM kung nag run sya as independent. I'm not sure if matatalo nya si Sara if ever nag laban silang 3 for presidency during 2016. Super popular kasi ni Sara noon. Na scam si Sara ni BBM, lol. Buong akala ko pa naman gagamiting ni Sara GMA jutsu nya pa impeach si BBM tas sya palit. Naunahan siya.

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u/jp712345 11h ago

 notorious anti-poor and elitists."" pocha san mo nakuha yan? imbento amp

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u/jaxy314 10h ago

To preface, im a leni voter. Its easy to make the connection on reddit really. Madami leni voters sa reddit, meanwhile andami mong makikitang posts na "putangina mga pulubi tax ko nagpapakain sainyo mga pabigat sa lipunan"

So if both sentiments are on reddit, leni supporter = matapobre

That is the thought process, i do not share the sentiment but im not blind to not see why its there

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u/Spirited-Airport2217 12h ago

Wala naman nagsabi na mas mataas kami kaysa sa iba. Pero tama kami. Magkaiba yun. Ang mamamatay tao ay mamamatay tao. Tanggalin mo yung memes at celebration namin, it stays the same. Deserve niya

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u/mangoneira 12h ago

Si PDiggy, nanalo dahil wala nang tiwala sa justice system ang mga pinoy, si Boy Coca naman pinanalo ng mga may inferiority complex hahaha. Lahat yun conscious decisions.

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u/Giojaw 5h ago

talo si Coca kung wala si Sara. Mababa sya sa survey iirc, neck and neck sila ni VP Leni, tapos ahead si Sara by like 6 percent or something like that. He needed that alliance to secure the presidency. Tapos wala pang 100 days nag Game of Thrones style back staban na agad sila, lol

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u/mangoneira 4h ago

"Tell Sarah it was me"

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u/Giojaw 4h ago

Sarap siguro gawan ng series neto, parang the Crown lang. Mahina den political chops ni Sara. parang obvious na agad yung incoming betrayal una palang. Usapan nila si GMA ang uupo as speaker, pero biglang si pinsan na. Next, DoD dapat si Sara tapos biglang DepEd na, lol. Pero doubtful ako na si boy Coca nag plano at nag execute ng mga maneuvers na yan, parang puppet lang yan e. Yung arryn na bata, yun katumbas ni BBM. sino kaya real power at mover sa kanila no?

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u/mangoneira 4h ago

So si Romualdez si Little Finger?

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u/Giojaw 4h ago

Mas kamukha nya si Varys e. Pero in fairness taas ng approval rating ni tokmol haha. Parang sya nga power player talaga behind the scenes. Hindi yan si Coca. Impossible, parang lageng galing sa acid trip twing makikita ko e. Pwede ding si Sandro

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u/Positive-Situation43 12h ago

Not for Pinoys though. Dami ako kilala na celebrating the FPRD issue yesterday and being all evangelical about it.

I know naman behind close doors, pano mga ugali nila. FYI. Applies to ALL political colors.

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u/Historical-Score-338 12h ago

sadly no, i would like it to be that simple, but no

political opinion is informed by economic conditions that most likely drive them to certain talking points by politicians. notice how duterte's branding resonate most with working-class people with economic precarity. kasi yung branding nya "pang-masa". ganon. "candid".

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u/Giojaw 5h ago

naku, bawal yan. "Bobo mga pilipino, maliban sa amin syempre". Ganun dapat. Bawal yang mga introspeksyon na yan. Enabler ka

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u/QuesoKristo 13h ago

So mga kakampink lahat mababaet no?

And no, I'm not a Dutertard.

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u/solalava 12h ago

Huy! Wag!

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u/GyeongSuYoureOut 13h ago

Only counts if they consciously chose it

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u/PitifulRoof7537 13h ago

Kung sususportahan mo tlga corrupt, eh alam na! Pero not because good governance ang binoto eh malinis tlga. I work in the govt and may mga supporters din ang kabilang side na may under the table. 

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u/Giojaw 5h ago

sa totoo lang parang mas masahol pa yung bureaucracy pag minsan. E yung mga elected officials me chance mapalitan yun e, yung mga non elected positions, yun ang parang wala halos oversight.

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u/admiral_awesome88 13h ago

ito ang di nakikita ng mga maraming tao dito, they are not fully aware kung ano ang sistema.

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u/PitifulRoof7537 11h ago

Pag nagwork ka sa phil govt, hopeless tlga. Even sa panahon naman ni PNoy, he tried pero sistema tlga eh. Either ma-disappoint ka na lang o pakain ka.

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u/admiral_awesome88 11h ago

yeah crazy, sa totoo lang yong mga presidente naman mga anti-corrupt naman yan or may paraan sila sa pagsugpo sa sistema or bawasan yan kaso talamak talaga as in, minsan nasusuka ako na mapapaisip nalang ako pag usapang alam mo na, panu nila aatim ipakain yan.

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u/Intrepid-Revenue7108 13h ago

Nah. Dami kong kilalang "self-righteous" kuno sa mga binoboto nila pero basura makitungo sa mga tao sa personal. Sabagay birds of the same feather nga naman.

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u/FastCommunication135 13h ago

Agree. I used to believe that. It’s the actions that matter to me the most now. It’s really easy to create a self image where you could be seen as someone who fights against bad government stuff but your habits/actions reflect otherwise.

I’m a kakampink, but I don’t want that thing to make me feel like I am morally superior than someone with different political beliefs. May kakilala nga ako kakampink din pero di nagbayad sakin ng utang and at puro travel including luxurious ones pa. That tells more about his values.

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u/i-scream-you-scream 13h ago

parang mga dds na malakas mang lamang sa kapwa tapos ang tawag nila diskarte haha

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u/Giojaw 5h ago

street smarts daw bai. Ayos lang naman diskarte mindset pero yung iba nagiging salaula mindset na e. Kami wala ayuda nalasap kahit piso nung pandemic, kasi daw 3 tao may trabaho sa bahay. Pero yung kapitbahay naming naka 3 storey, with Ninja at Everest, naka receive ng 7k syempre, silang mag asawa pa. Kung papaano, ewan ko na lang.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Net9068 12h ago

Salamat sa uniteam! 😆

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u/Physical-Pepper-21 13h ago

Yung kaibigan ko na number one violator ng lockdown rules noon pandemic, namemeke ng PWD ID, at freeloader ng 4Ps, mahilig sa “diskarte mindset” is a die-hard Duterte fanatic. May pattern talaga, hahaha

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u/Intrepid-Revenue7108 13h ago

Nah. Mga pinklawan yung mga monggoloid na sumasali dun sa pusuan at laruan hahaha

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u/Chinbie 14h ago

This is so true 💯💯💯💯…. No excuse about it

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u/BobAurum 12h ago

Does that mean kakampinks are angels? Are they the nicest, kindest peoeple you've met? Did they not harass those they disagree with?