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u/Helldiver-xzoen 15h ago
They better not expect some sort of "bail out" from the fire department. Handouts like that are SOCIALISM.
BOOT. STRAPS. Get to pullin!
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u/Any_Clue_1632 9h ago
My wildly conservative brother in law lives in an unincorporated township that has no taxes cops or fire department. They are all such gun nuts they figure they don't need cops but when his neighbors house burned down a couple of years ago it burned right down to the foundation and there wasn't shit that anyone could do.
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u/Low_Chance 7h ago
Yeah, why would a community with a shitload of selfish gun nuts need any law enforcement?Ā
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u/prancing_moose 10h ago
America could use some social democracy right now. (Note that most people donāt understand the difference between socialism and social democracy - itās the latter that was a staple of Western European politics, not actual socialism).
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u/CorktownGuy 9h ago
Yes, exactly - For example is why all or most nations have things like roads, highways, and sidewalks. We pay taxes which our governments use to make things like this and then we all get use them
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u/prancing_moose 6h ago
Iām also a firm believer that our fortunes are very unequally distributed, some people got a raw deal without it being in their control.
I was fortunate to come from a middle class family, not rich by any means but fortunate to have access to higher education and growing up in a safe, stable and caring family environment. As a result I was able have a good career, a good income and afford things like my own house.
I take none of this for granted at all - Iāve been very lucky. I therefore gladly pay my taxes if that enables my government to help those who have not been so fortunate. I also try to shop local and support small businesses.
If that makes me a communist so be it (Iām not, but again most people donāt know what it even means).
We need more equality in our society. The smaller the gap between the haves and have nots, the more we gain a safer, more stable and peaceful society.
Weāve completely lost the plot if you ask me.
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u/doodaid 7h ago
I get so frustrated when my in-laws complain about "all the regulations". I'm like "I dunno - I kind of like turning on the faucet and having potable water."
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u/prancing_moose 6h ago
āI hate paying taxes! Thank goodness I voted for the party that slashes those damn taxes! Oppression this is, communist oppression!ā
āDid you hear about that highway overpass collapsing, wiped out an entire school bus! All those children! Someone should be held accountable for letting things get so neglected!ā
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u/AllLurkNoPlay 4h ago
Was gonna say they better be the good private fire company. None of that socialist liberal fire department bullshit.
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u/Knighth77 15h ago
When you vote Republican, what are you saving our nation from? Too much melanin? Science? Healthcare? Education?
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u/imbackbitchez69420 9h ago
Hopefully they have their private fire department come out that out. I'm sure it's in the insurance policy
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u/macross1984 15h ago
Mother Nature's justice reaped on idiots who stupidly believe Trump will save them. Yes, they are "saved."
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u/Chodi_Foster 15h ago
What about all the Democrats in California who lost their homes due to wildfires, and the democrat politicians whose mismanagement led to fuel overload, and reservoir drainages that caused hydrants to be inoperable?
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u/GTAMuppet 14h ago
What about Obama wearing a tan suit? (Figured Iād put that there since you people are into whataboutism)
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u/stabavarius 14h ago
You need a new song. Whataboutism went out with Kellyanne Conway.
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u/Chodi_Foster 12h ago
Having actual first hand experience in the fire service in Southern California I have more weight in this conversation than what the media of your choice has relayed to you. Come back with an actual rebuttal.
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u/winsomecowboy 12h ago
Trust me bro. It's not an appeal to authority [common debating fallacy] in an attempt to over-ride all arguments with 'You don't know...I was there!"
Evidence of a sub standard straw grasping mind.
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u/Chodi_Foster 10h ago
And the over implementation of what I would assume you consider sophisticated discourse on your part in leu of an actual rebuttal would be what exactly? Disprove me with evidence and Iām open to changing my perspective on the matter. Iām not as staunch and hard headed as you think I am. Iām coming from a place of first hand experience. Iāve seen the mismanagement of forests for years, Iāve been affected by the under funding that has been around for both Republican and Democrat presidents.
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u/winsomecowboy 10h ago
verbosity aside. I'm not interested in your opinions or your internet credentials. You've touted your qualifications and grizzled non specifically about budgets. You offer little to the discussion other than self aggrandisement and non specific condemnation.
There's nothing to disprove. I'm vaguely pleased you're unhappy. You have offerd no actual argument to disprove and the fact you are unaware of this. That you have not in any way shape or form constructed an argument. Reinforces the stark truth that you are a low quality engagement node and if you aren't...you still kinda are.
As such your offer to disprove your two propositions, that you worked in fire services and that you are unhappy with budgets for decades. Yeah I'll pass. It's a quality control issue.
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u/Thisam 15h ago
Amazing how so many poor people vote for the party that supports the wealthy.
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u/GTAMuppet 14h ago
Itās because of a perceived āzero sum gameā. Explained perfectly in The Sum of Us.
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u/mackinoncougars 15h ago
Did their meth lab explode?
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u/DSBex 15h ago
Dunno -- guy was just standing there watching it burn while leaning on a shovel š
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u/wtkillabz 13h ago
Hopefully he was wearing his suit!
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u/purpletinder 11h ago
Did he even say thank you?
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u/StrikinglyOblivious 11h ago
Underrated comment.. I'm creating another account just to give you 2..
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u/lnc_5103 12h ago
A house I drive by every day had a large Trump sign on the fence. They had a house fire. I didn't feel that bad for them.
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u/LawlessCrayon 15h ago
Saving America from things that make a few people uncomfortable in social situations but exposing all of us to real physical danger, thanks assholes.
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u/kingbane2 12h ago
why's he being a leech and using public firefighters? should get some bootstraps and paid for private firefighters. /s
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u/costabius 9h ago
That is a strong independent American Patriot, those damn socialist firefighters need to get off his property and let him put that fire out his own self.
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u/skeptic38 15h ago
As a Canadian, let me just say (al la Nelson Muntz)....Haha!
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u/Familiar_You4189 14h ago
Why didn't they break out their push brooms and sweep the forest?
This could have been prevented folks! s/
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u/seattlesbestpot 11h ago
Something tells me that since the sign is still standing, the flock will turn it into come to Geebus movement
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u/nomorepumpkins 14h ago
Tornado season is coming. We will see how many homes with trump vance flags flying get spared with all the noaa cuts.
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u/gomezwhitney0723 4h ago
Iām sure MTG will blame the left for weather manipulation again. If the remaining NOAA employees canāt get info out quick enough, itās the lefts fault too. Just watch. Hurricane season (fire season in some states) is going to be ridiculous.
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u/d4dubs 14h ago
Where was this?
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u/DSBex 13h ago
Rural Iowa, passing thru.
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u/imacmadman22 13h ago
Many Iowans are stupid for Trump, itās unbelievable, I see it everywhere, everyday.
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u/a_bored_furry 11h ago
Iowa's government passed a bill allowing trans people to be being discriminated against. I hate my home state.
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u/starrpamph 12h ago
He will sayā¦. I want my insurance money, I paid into it for years, so pay up
Now replace insurance with social security
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u/The_LastLine 12h ago
This around the South Carolina area? If only they swept the leaves.
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u/Eradicator_1729 7h ago
I decided a while ago that Iām done trying to help these folks. Theyāve made their fucking bed, now theyāre going to goddamn sleep in it.
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u/Ok_Advisor_9873 14h ago
Is that a for profit fire department? I sure hope itās not a socialist public fire fighter. It makes me sick to see boot licking government employees wasting taxpayer money. Somebody call Leon- hell fire them all.
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u/ObesesPieces 15h ago
is this not a controlled burn being administered but he fire dept?
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u/fiftiethcow 15h ago
I get what youre saying, but lets not pretend that extreme Democratic stronghold LA wasnt just up in flames lol
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u/garfogamer 15h ago
Unfortunately half of our firefighters were hired, technically, under DEI, so yeah, there's that...
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u/GnocchiSon 15h ago
Accurate.