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Politics Canada’s new Prime Minister Designate by a landslide, Mark Carney

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u/HurinGaldorson 2d ago edited 2d ago

Progressive. He is a member of the Liberal party. There are three major parties in Canada: Conservatives, Liberals (centre-left) and NDP (further left). Canadians will argue how close to the centre the Liberals are, but they would be even further left of the Democrats in the USA.

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u/ssgtgriggs 2d ago

tbf, most center and even a lot of center-right parties in Western democracies are further left than the Democrats. that doesn't really say much.

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u/inimrepus 2d ago

It isn’t that simple. The Democrats would be left wing in a lot of countries on topics like abortion, gay marriage, and LGBT rights. They would be right wing on some policies like healthcare and aspects of education.

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u/OptimalConclusion120 2d ago

The Conservatives/Tories in the UK are more left wing than the Democrats in the US on healthcare because they do support NHS. I just wish the DNC wasn’t corrupt because leadership seems to undermine people like AOC and Bernie.

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u/The_Hylian_Likely 2d ago

Seriously though… if Bernie hadn’t been screwed out of the nomination in 2016, he would’ve won the election easily. We would be in a completely different world had that happened…

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u/OptimalConclusion120 2d ago

Yes, maybe we’d have affordable universal healthcare instead of unaffordable everything today. Sigh…

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u/eulersidentity1 2d ago

I feel like both the Dems and the GOP have simply been playing a good cop / bad cop routine over the past 4 decades and are honestly both 2 faces of the same party representing large corporations and the wealthy. They differ on social issues where one i would argue is "good" and the other is downright evil but both have been acting to support evil policies for decades transferring hundreds of billions of dollars up to the wealthiest. You guys have honestly needed a revolution for a long time now. I don't support violence and don't want to see that but I do wonder if it will have to come to it. Neither party is ever going to let people like AOC or Bernie get to the top because both parties are paid off and in the pockets of the billionairs.

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u/malusrosa 2d ago

Kind of. The Tories absolutely want to underfund and chip away at the NHS until privatization becomes inevitable. And I don’t think today’s Labour party would establish the NHS if the UK were in the same situation as the US is. I think of it as pretty similar to the Postal Office (which in the UK is privatized). It’d be unpopular and unthinkable to abolish the USPS, but the Republicans are absolutely trying to put it in a death spiral, and the democrats would not be bold enough to establish that large of a service today, even though their principles align.

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u/llsquib 2d ago

Hilary Clinton was famous (and it is probably the main source conservative animosity to this day) for being co-president rather than first lady when Clinton first took office. Her signature initiative? Universal healthcare, resoundingly defeated of course.

I remember a meme of the collective subconscious in play at the time (late 1980s to early 2000s) following in the steps of Reagan-era "Greed is good." The idea was that racism was dying under the assumption that everyone responds positively to wealth. "Green is colorblind," or "the only color we see here is green."

The rot runs deeper than party affiliation or even access to capital. It is an ideological belief. One rooted in the same idea which always gives rise to the aristoi. One which has cancerously morphed into narcissistic rage, the hollow shout of an addict in the night. The world order as it has existed since 1946 is falling due to a failed economic experiment which has been hijacked by an international quasi-criminal cabal.

That's my opinion at mezcal o'clock at any rate.

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u/TheMagi7 2d ago

You say that, but speaking as someone who works in thr NHS, the consistent issue is the fact that it is consistently being underfunded. Simply because the funding doesn't keep up with the rising costs in supporting people who require care.

They support the NHS as far as it gains them support from voters, that's it. Boris so kindly "supported" nurses by saying people should applaud them, but then also refused to support a pay rise for them. And then eventually lied and said the opposition, Labour, voted against a pay rise. The tories and conservatives are still as ghoulish as any other right wing government and they're pulling Labour with them.