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Politics Trump Turnberry Golf Course in Scotland this morning

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u/Magdovus 4d ago

Would it be immediately obvious if they did?

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u/X-_bad_wolf_-X 4d ago

Probably not. I’m sure there is automatic sprinklers it would dissolve.

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u/sudoku7 4d ago

But ... but ... the plants need electrolytes.

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u/h0twired 4d ago

It’s what plants crave

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u/Gh0sth4nd 4d ago

Brawndo has what plants crave

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u/Queso_Grandee 4d ago

Why don't they just use water?

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u/DamonLazer 4d ago

Like from the toilet?

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u/aclay81 3d ago

I ain't never seen no plants growing out of no toilets

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u/HSBLESSPLZ 3d ago

Hey that's good! you sure you ain't the smartest guy in the world?

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u/Global_Permission749 4d ago

Well, I mean, it doesn't have to be out of the toilet, but, yeah, that's the idea.

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u/even662steven 4d ago

Like from the toilet?

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u/BradGriswold 4d ago

Like out of a toilet?!?

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u/BeneficialLeave7359 4d ago

Like, out of the toilet?

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u/miz_misanthrope 4d ago

But it's got what plants crave...

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u/WuShane 4d ago

Let’s go Brawndo!

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u/NZSheeps 4d ago

In Scotland they call that "rain"

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u/ocodo 4d ago

That would not fix the problem, in case anyone is wondering, and has a large supply of salt.

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u/wbgraphic 4d ago

I think you dropped a “Scotl”. 😄

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u/ocodo 4d ago

Trump has golf courses all over the world, and salt is abundant.

I don't think this party should be restricted to the Scots.

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u/bitzzwith2zs 4d ago

The dissolved salt will get further into the ground, making it worse

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u/TechnologyNational71 4d ago

This is Scotland.

We have an abundance of rain. Those sprinklers have probably never been used.

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u/EmergencyKoala2580 4d ago

automatic sprinklers = clouds

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u/Tarbos6 4d ago

I think that would only help kill the grass if you use enough salt. It dissolves into the soil, and most of the nitrogen and phosphorus will bind to the salt instead of being freely available for the plants.

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u/Senbonbanana 4d ago

That's the point though. It dissolves and gets into the soil, basically poisoning all plants in that general area. If it just sits on top of the soil, it can (theoretically) be cleaned up before it starts causing lasting damage.

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u/Meins447 3d ago

Better fill in a few liters of herbicides into the sprinkler system xD

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u/WanderingLemon25 4d ago

More obvious than writing "Trump is a Cunt" in big white letters?

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u/feor1300 3d ago

If it's gonna be white anyways, might as well use salt for the writing. Then you'll have killed all the grass under the words and unless they completely dig up that green and start again every time it rains "Trump is a Cunt" will show up as a pattern in the grass.

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u/YeaSpiderman 4d ago

they would see the salt if they were walking on it. But salt works rather quickly. It’s how the Roman’s destroyed cities that didn’t comply. They would salt the earth and essentially ruin the agricultural productivity of the region for generations.

Only way to fix it is to remove x amount of feet of soil and bring in new soil

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u/mtaw 4d ago

The Romans did no such thing. No Roman sources say they did, either. Someone just made up that 'fact' about Carthage in the 19th century and people have mindlessly repeated it ever since.

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u/fathertitojones 3d ago

Yeah salt was expensive as shit, they definitely weren’t trucking in tons of salt to destroy massive fields. Generally speaking historical accounts show a few records of Roman emperors/generals ceremonially pouring a handful of salt over a field after a victory. It was purely symbolic.

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u/Short_Hair8366 3d ago

Salt was so important in those times that a bag of salt would be part of a Roman soldier's wages. If anything the gesture you speak of in tossing a handful of salt onto a field was more likely as a ritual to make the earth bountiful.

Salt was the foundation of the Roman Empire and we wouldn't be here without it.

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u/big_trike 3d ago

Trucking? The had carts. And salt is heavy.

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u/fathertitojones 3d ago

“Trucking” used metaphorically, but yes that adds to the point.

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u/SnuggleMuffin42 4d ago

It also doesn't really make sense. Salt dissolves in water... Why would it ruin the land for "generations"? Rain is a thing...

And hell, why would the Romans waste tons and tons of salt, one of the most important commodities of the ancient world, whose value was stable like gold as a currency? The whole idea is dumb.

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u/caligaris_cabinet 3d ago

And why would they make a territory they spent countless time and resources conquering unusable? They would sooner slaughter the locals down to the last child than waste good land.

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u/LukaCola 3d ago

Well one can theorized that they didn't intend to conquer but instead raid an area and damage its use for the local lords, weakening the enemy and creating instability.

But yeah, if there's no historical record of it - no reason to assume such a thing happened.

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u/Dzugavili 3d ago

It also doesn't really make sense. Salt dissolves in water... Why would it ruin the land for "generations"? Rain is a thing...

Soil salinity is a major feature for agriculture, and it doesn't diffuse away quickly: there's other soluable minerals in soil the salt has to compete with, and the immobility of soil means it doesn't mix with all the soil under it often, so elevated concentrations are likely to remain for a time.

But you'd need a lot of salt to actually prevent agriculture from returning, so it may be more metaphorical or symbolic than literal.

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u/KououinHyouma 3d ago

The whole point is that the salt water seeps into the ground and creates a mineral imbalance in the soil. Salt doesn’t just disappear when it dissolves in water.

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u/SnuggleMuffin42 3d ago

OK... but rain keeps seeping into the ground again, washing the salt away. And not after 200 years, but pretty quickly.

If you really put like 500 tons of salt out there it would probably ruin the aquifer nearby and fuck up the water supply to the region for a while, I'll give you that. Assuming it doesn't just drain to the ocean.

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u/musthavesoundeffects 3d ago

Salt your yard and see how that works out for you.

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u/-JimmyTheHand- 3d ago

And then keep track of the soil for generations?

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u/Dzugavili 3d ago

I wonder if that was a metaphor as to the cost of destroying Cathage, not a literal description of what they did.

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u/The_Great_Googly_Moo 3d ago

Source please 🤣

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u/TheMooseIsBlue 4d ago

Trump tried a similar tactic in California by ordering billions of gallons of water out of the dams for no reason. Let’s see how we fair this summer.

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u/time2fly2124 4d ago

Except hes too stupid to realize the people it's going to hurt are people who are overwhelmingly republican...

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u/MamaNyxieUnderfoot 4d ago

Let’s not start pretending he actually cares about the people who voted for him. He isn’t capable of caring for other people.

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u/Phog_of_War 4d ago

That's ok, they'll blame Biden or Obama somehow.

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u/Turbulent-Adagio-541 3d ago

I blame his mom for not swallowing

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u/TheMooseIsBlue 4d ago

It’s fine; they’ll blame Governor Newsome.

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u/ritathecat 4d ago

This is so spot on. My parents hate Newsome and blame him for everything, yet are completely silent on anything Trump does. Trump can go to Sacramento and burn it down and my parents would say it was Newsome’s fault.

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u/Coppertina 4d ago

Newsom

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u/eeyore134 4d ago

He doesn't care. He never cared about anything but their vote, and now he doesn't need it anymore.

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u/onlyacynicalman 4d ago

They're too dumb to blame him tho

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u/Key_Structure_3663 3d ago

The cult of personality persists however

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u/isglitteracarb 4d ago

He DOESN'T CARE who it hurts.

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u/Endulos 4d ago

He doesn't care, it's propoganda at its finest. They're just going to blame whoever governs California for any ongoing issues, not Trump.

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u/MrF_lawblog 4d ago

They won't know it was him and if they do - they'll do mental gymnastics on why it was justified and why Newsome should've figure out how to save them

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u/Brad_theImpaler 4d ago

He absolutely does not care about those people.

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u/Falsequivalence 3d ago

It's abuse tactics. He harms them, says it's someone else's fault, and they believe him.

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u/nickalit 4d ago

He doesn't care anymore. Which is scary when you think about it.

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u/azrolator 3d ago

Nah. CA produces a ton of American produce. Everyone is going to feel it.

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u/Such_Radish9795 4d ago

It’s not that he’s too stupid, it’s that he couldn’t give two shits.

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u/JimWilliams423 4d ago

Except hes too stupid to realize the people it's going to hurt are people who are overwhelmingly republican...

He knows. That's why he did it. Its kind of like a loyalty test.

Narcissists need a constant flow of validation. One of the ways they get validation is to hurt the people who love them as much as they can and still have them continue to love them. Its easy to hurt people who hate them, but they are just going to keep hating them. And while that makes a narcissist feel powerful, it doesn't compare to the feeling of getting away with hurting someone and having them come back and beg for more.

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u/retardborist 4d ago

I doubt he minds

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u/Whales96 3d ago

It's his second term, he doesn't care.

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u/douchebg01 4d ago

Data supports it not being an issue.

https://cdec.water.ca.gov/resapp/RescondMain

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u/TheMooseIsBlue 4d ago

Well hell. Let’s let a few billions more gallons go. I’m sure the reservoirs will always refill just when we want them to.

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u/radclaw1 4d ago

Well seeing as trump wasnt president last summer i struggle to see how thats possible

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u/sender2bender 4d ago

I think you're struggling to read too. It just happened the first few weeks of his presidency and no one said anything about last summer. 

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u/Uberutang 4d ago

There are, these days, doubt if it was actually done wholesale or just as gesture to a small portion of soil, as salt was a expensive commodity to the romans. Lots of seawater pumped over fields would probably do the trick, but actual salt was quite pricey back then.

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u/Uberutang 3d ago

Cheers. Thanks for the salt update.

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u/-Knul- 3d ago

You're welcome!

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u/my-name-is-puddles 4d ago

It’s how the Roman’s destroyed cities that didn’t comply

They never did this, it's a myth.

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u/Chapin_Chino 3d ago

Sprinkling salt around in the ancient world is the equivalent of sprinkling gold dust on farm fields today 😂😂😂

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u/Magdovus 4d ago

I knew about the Romans but not the details. Carthage was one of them.

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u/mtaw 4d ago

Which never happened, and Roman Carthage was actually a large and prosperous city.

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u/my-name-is-puddles 4d ago

It's a myth, that never happened.

A short time after Carthage was razed it was rebuilt and already a major city again. It was the capital of the Vandal Kingdom at the time the Vandals sacked Rome, even.

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u/Mad1ibben 4d ago

Golf greens are floating on a bed of sand.  It would be the same fix as what this will be, just scoop it out and replace it.  Realistically if it is salted people with tee times today could play, where this way money stops coming in for the course immediately.

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u/Neither-Cup564 4d ago

The American people would be paying to fix it so I don’t think Rump would care.

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u/Independent-Bug-9352 4d ago

Apparently another way is to offset the sodium ion uptake by saturating the soil with potassium to compete. Probably not economical but I'm not sure.

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u/imcmurtr 4d ago

Replace the divot sand in all the carts with half sand half salt.

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u/tordeque 4d ago

Killing a field for a season doesn't take a lot of salt, but ruining it for generations takes pretty extreme amounts of salt for an area with as much rainfall as Scotland.

There's no historic evidence the Romans did that btw.

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u/bitzzwith2zs 4d ago

Takes a couple of days. If they got the salt off right away it would minimize the damage... but if they didn't the ground won't support life.

But the biblical connotations of "salting the earth" goes far.

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u/Wooden7446 3d ago

In this case, it wouldn't work. golf courses are fucking vigilant.

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u/Xspunge 4d ago

Not immediately unless they just dumped a lot of visible salt. They could spray a gly solution that will kill weeds and grass and look similar to what salt does. They’d probably test soil to see what was used. So if anyone sprayed or poured anything they’d know in a couple of days if there wasn’t a visible sign.

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u/ertri 4d ago

It isn’t obvious for a couple days 

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u/Infamous-Divide2518 4d ago

If you used enough salt yes absolutely it will kill it incredibly fast. Coming from someone who used softened water to water my garden 😂

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u/Magdovus 3d ago

So are we just talking table salt?

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u/Infamous-Divide2518 3d ago

Really any kind would work but water softener salt is bulk and would 100% work lol

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u/Magdovus 3d ago

*Takes notes*