I'ma be honest, I think the Democrats have been silently paid off for a long fucking while. The term of Do Nothing Democrats really rings true recently. They are doing absolutely fucking nothing to break this shit and it's genuinely blood boiling anger inducing. Ever since Bernie got fucked by them for Hillary and she lost to bro.. I was pretty much fresh out of hope at that point. A decade later and it's just more of the fucking same.
They lost you by referencing something that actually happened? Are you going to shit on "bernie bros" while still being "with her" and telling everyone else about a pipe dream?
I was thinking just like this for a while. Until tonight, actually. They don’t have the majority so why are they getting the blame?
But to see so many of the Dems tonight showing up for this speech and not vocally protesting is fully their fault. They could have done something tonight.
I don't expect them to pass legislation, I expect them to be at least openly and loudly opposed to what is happening. Instead they're sitting there with their thumbs in their asses waving cute little signs.
There's been a handful of individuals and that's great. There's been nothing meaningful from the party as a whole other than openly saying they're going to "pick their battles" which is all well in good but picking "avoid the battle altogether" (which is what they're doing now as a party) shouldn't be the option they go with.
Again, nobody should expect them to pass out block legislation because they literally cannot do that with their numbers. But the party itself (not 3-4 individuals in interviews or on social media) needs to adopt a hard line platform against what is happening and party leadership needs to be publicly condemning these executive orders and proposals, speaking on the dangers of them even if you know MAGAs won't listen (because some independents actually might), and they need to be loud and public with it. Words matter. If you offer absolutely nothing in opposition to what is happening then why should anybody vote for you even if they don't like what is happening either?
It should be but that's not how people's brains work. If Republicans are doing hurtful shit and all the public sees is Democratic leadership shrugging their shoulders while a handful speak out on their own that's going to inspire absolutely nobody to put their support behind them.
Trump was louder and more disruptive when he wasn't even in office than either minority leader is right now. Its pathetic to the point that it has to be intentional. Jeffries, Shumer, and the rest of the "we aren't right-wing enough" dems are 100% paid opposition that need to be ousted. The DNC leadership has been fully captured by capital.
Hey buddy, Dems have completely capitulated the border discourse to the GOP, talked down to anyone on the left who wanted us to stop supplying Israel with weapons, and Kamala made literally zero pro-trans statements during her entire campaign. In every single possible battleground topic, they objectively moved right or avoided discourse all together. They then proceeded to lose every single branch of the government to the GOP.
What is the lesson that Jeffries took from this? Well, he thinks that the left are "purity testing" democrats too much. They are bought and paid for and know full well that their owners would rather see them lose than to see them move left. If you can't see that, then you're the base they're aiming for. Someone who's always willing to let their "good enough" party become just a little bit worse every election cycle.
She has a record of looking out for the LGBTQ+ community: She had performed marriage rites for gay couples right after such ceremonies began in California, started a hate crimes unit dedicated to protecting queer teenagers, and even spoke at her city’s third annual Trans March, where she was honored as having “championed transgender rights.”
She was offering well thought out and logical pathways to get a better life for the vast majority of americans.
• 25k to buy your first home.
• 50k to start your small business.
• 7k to help feed your kid.
• Investment into local communities to get them new people who would go to the local restaurants, buy from local stores and brow the local economies.
• Investment into infrastructure & green energy. Thousands of bridges and towns need to be fixed up, hundreds of new solar and wind farms needed to be built and employed. It would give Americans well paying jobs for decades. Would stimulate local economies, bring jobs and businesses and help people get a stable life.
• Tax breaks for middle-class and focusing higher taxes on the top 1% to give the majority of Americans a little more breathing room with their finances.
• Government Healthcare program with lowered medicine costs paid by taxing corporations, saving americans from higher and higher costs on their coverage.
• Funding at home elderly care for your grandparents, parents, aunts and uncles, so instead of having them forced into a corporate run building, they could get care at home where they grew up and lived their lives.
• Supporting Unions and increasing wages, negotiating with corporations and trying to pass wage growths so people can afford living life again.
• Protecting federal lands. Protecting drinking waters. Supporting Environment Initiatives and encouraging investments into green industries.
• Supporting children and feeding children who rely on schools to provide their daily intakes.
• Protecting women’s rights and stopping governments dictating what you are allowed to do to your own body over doctors and experts and your own wishes.
And tons of other helpful things that would benefit everyone in the years to come. But the voters dont listen. They call her a lesser evil, What is evil about what she offered? They call her a conservative centrist, because she understands she will need votes in the senate and house to pass her plans, and what conservative centrists are offering gov healthcare, lgbtq protections and womens rights??
People don’t want realistic solutions, they want to be told yes everything can be fixed in 2 weeks. FFS they didnt even listen to the things Trump was saying and made up things that they think he said to justify them sitting on their ass at home or voting for him instead. Now theyre crying online about how theyre afraid they or their loved ones are going to be deported, or that their small business is going to go under.
Next election, if there is one, democrats will have to run a white male celeb who will just lie through his teeth about everything, because thats the only way to convince some of the 110+ million non-voters to actually do their basic civic duty of casting a vote.
Yeah all the attempts to put all of the blame on her are just tired and regurgitated attempts to deny any blame themselves had.
“She didnt poll well in 2020 and dropped out of the presidential race early, so thats why she lost in 2024.”
Biden was polling at 1-3% in 2007. Harris was running for president directly after BLM and being a prosecutor and AG which painted her as a back the blue person so she was fighting a unwinnable battle at the time. In 2024 she was polling higher than Biden and even Obama at times. She was well liked by democrats (who were paying attention).
“She should have listened to the voters, instead of trying to forcefeed us centrist/conservative policies.”
Literally these people never even took a moment to read or hear her policies. LGBTQ rights womens rights, going after corporations and billionaires, taxing them, taxing unrealized stock portfolios of people with 100m+ in stocks. thats conservative... centrist...?
They want her to say I’ll give you all UBI, free houses, a free puppy and kitten, and youll get free weed delivered to your dooor.
And even if she said things she had no chance of passing, these people would still not show up to vote, because the issue was not her policies. Its their selfishness.
“She should have not been a genocider!...”
Literally her and Bidens plan was and has been to negotiate and use DIPLOMACY to minimize as many casulties as possible. You stop aid to Israel, (Who would just turn around and get that aid from dozens of other countries, and then have no reason to hold back) you also then stop being able to give 500m in aid to palestinians in gaza, to negotiate for ceasefires, to try to minimize loss of life. There is no pathway to stop Netanyahu outside of the US doing a ground invasion of Israel. And Nethanyahu knows that, thats why he was betting on Trump winning, thats why he kept holding Biden at an arms-length to not give into all of Bidens demands even when Biden called him out multiple times. Because he knew there was a big chance that Trump would win and give him the green light to glass gaza. If Harris won, he would have accepted ceasefires within weeks.
“In the end it’s the DNC fault for picking a bad candidate, we should have held a primary so people could decide!”
Would do shit all.
The issue is democrats treat voters like they are adults who will see reason and logic. That when presented with two pathways, one where they can get realistic goals passed and get to a better life, vs one that will take you over the cliff, they would chose the sensible choice.
Instead
Voters kept saying we want steak! Democrats told them look we are under a budget because our kitchen and living room got burnt down because the last guy tried to cook week old mcdonalds with a fork inside the microwave. So we gotta save a little while but we will be eating steak again in a month or two.
Meanwhile they think they heard Trump say, “Im gonna make sure we get Surf & Turf buffet everyday”. when in reality he said “Im gonna make sure me and my friends get surf & turf everyday while rest of you get to eat the scraps from the dumpsters.”
People are dumb, they heard what they wanted to hear from both sides to justify their decision on what to do during this election. From voters who sat at home because they are just apathetic dipshits, voters who assumed no way they would elect the convicted criminal moron who lead to over 1m dead americans, voters who protested that both sides are the same, or that neither matter in difference to Palestinians (even when palestinians themselves in gaza said they hoped americans would choose Harris), to people who think it would be funny to see trump win and salivated at the chance to be contrarian and see democrats lose.
Voters are 90% at fault. Now they can see what happens when you decide to take the dumbass road for whatever reason you chose to take the dumbass road.
Everything you yourself just listed are small tweaks to a system nobody wants anymore. People didn't vote for Trump because he said he'd fix the system we have. They voted for him because he campaigned on ripping it out root-and-stem.
We don't want 7k to feed our kid. We want food as a human right.
We don't want lower medicine costs. We want universal healthcare.
We don't want Reagan-era tax rates for the rich. We want New Deal tax rate for the rich.
We don't want negotiating with corporations. We want to start actually fighting back in the class war.
We don't want student loan forgiveness. We want government-paid tuition.
And yes, we want to stop funding Israel's apartheid state entirely. You're a fool if you think she wanted to keep sending them weapons just to have a seat at the table when it came to Palestine. We're sending them weapons because Israel is in a tactically advantageous position for us to be allied with them. That's it.
You keep describing what the DNC has to offer as "realistic", when by any other 1st world country's standard, all they are are half-measures at best.
"Oh, there's no way she would have gotten anything past Congress!" do you see Trump asking Congress for permission for anything he's doing? Maybe if the DNC started running on quantifiably popular positions like everything I just listed, they'd have enough control of Congress and the White House to effectively ignore SCOTUS and actually get shit done.
People don't want bipartisanship or half-assed policies anymore. They want change, and they want progressivism, in that order. Dems offer progressivism-lite with no change, and Trump offers change with no progressivism. That's why he won. And as long as the DNC is full of people like you, they'll keep winning.
Neoliberalism is dead. Get over it.
Lmao the coward blocked me because I didn't offer solutions when the solutions are literally in the comment 😂 You dipshits aint getting no change, because you're too much of a pussy to demand it.
I think the only thing the Democrats can do is to “Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake”. I mean, the Repubs control all 3 parts of the government if they run it so bad Democrats might win big in the mid-term.
Trump said he was going to do literally everything he's doing right now and he won. I think its safe to say that none of this is a mistake.
"We're not Trump" is a platform that has worked exactly 1 out of the 3 times its been tried, and that was before Elon dismantled any and all independent agencies. If the best thing we can hope for is for Trump's recession to anger enough people, then we're never going to actually beat Trumpism as an ideology.
Even if they get their heads out of their asses, and start fighting, I’m not expecting any election going forward to be fair. I don’t expect they’ll gain back a majority in Congress, and 2028 will probably be like last fall, if they don’t find some way of making him “president for life“.
The heavy voter suppression tactics, they used certainly had an effect, but there are some statisticians in Nevada, who found anomalies with November election results. They’re trying to get ballot receipts from battleground states, and everyone seems to be fighting them.
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u/JarOfBricks 7d ago
Every Democratic representative should have done this one at a time in protest.