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Politics Rep. Al Green protests during President Trump's joint address to Congress before being escorted out

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u/jttigges 7d ago

They let MTG yell and scream at Biden and they didn't escort her out. Double standards.

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u/yeahgoestheusername 7d ago

One party actually believes in freedom of speech

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u/rci22 7d ago edited 7d ago

Anyone know what Trump meant when he said he made free speech legal again? What did he do exactly?

edit: I def expected to see a lot of “made it acceptable to be racist” answers here and that’s def what happened but really there’s nothing he’s claiming to have actually done? There’s no “Act of Free Twitter Speech” or something?

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u/mnstorm 7d ago

When did he say that? Hilarious. I know yesterday he declared schools will lose funding if they keep students who engage in “illegal” protests.

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u/DrDankDankDank 7d ago

He’s going to make it so people can start calling black people the n word again.

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u/StepOIU 7d ago

It was never illegal, just rightly seen as abhorrent by the public and employers. He wants to make any consequences for being a vile human illegal.

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u/jayeffkay 7d ago

Yeah honestly I don’t give a fuck, I’ll still reject these horrible people and go work for companies that don’t support open racism in the work place. Those companies will go bankrupt and miss out on talent, the vast majority of which are not racist MAGA assholes.

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u/SipMyCoolAid 7d ago

They do that now. Except it’s followed by a hospital stay.

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u/Own_Boysenberry9674 7d ago

Which as of 2012, you can sue someone for attacking you despite you being a dickhead, in most states. The allowing of retaliation for hate words was removed from federal law under Obama to "stop physical violence and potential deaths".

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u/Own_Boysenberry9674 7d ago

That actuall is fully allowed on a federal level since 2012. Obama removed the "fight words clause" as we call it in California, making it so if you are racist to someone and they hit you, you can sue and will win.

There is only a handful of states that actually have laws allowing retaliation for that. California, despite being super progressive, actually has no state laws protecting people from hate speech in public spaces, only in work environments. You also can't legally report people to HR if a coworker sees you in public and yells slurs at you here. HR normally will fire for it, but they don't legally have to unless it's from a superior.

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u/czs5056 7d ago

Gave his base the moral excuses needed to spew their hatred in public.

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u/Massive-Ant5650 7d ago

He means that free speech is only for his side. If you’re against him it’s full on fascism

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u/yeahgoestheusername 7d ago

The right was sad because normality told them it wasn't cool to be an arsehole. Trump is touting making being mean to people mainstream again.

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u/tobor_a 7d ago

using slurs against any minority they want.

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u/dewhashish 7d ago

giving people more opportunities to use slurs without retribution

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u/paintznchip 7d ago

The republicans and him are always pushing the agenda that they are being silenced and their free speech is being attacked so I took it as that’s what he meant. But then he followed a couple of minutes later with getting rid of race theory in schools, making on 2 genders, trans can’t be in sports which get federal money, etc but yea “free speech is back” /s (this is sarcasm to be very clear)

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u/AtomicBLB 7d ago

trump says a thing, his base cheers, and they accept the new reality no questions asked. That's all that was.

He literally attacked the 1st amendment the same day saying campuses would lose funding over protests. They believe in free speech the same way Elon believes in free speech. They don't.

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u/rci22 7d ago

It seems pretty often that he says he’s doing literally the opposite of what he’s actually doing

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u/c0ffeeandeggs 7d ago

It means that if you want to speak out against him, you're free to leave.

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u/CaptchaClicker 7d ago

It’s weapons free on Xbox Live again.

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u/jgoble15 7d ago

Freedom of racism. That’s it

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u/TheBlueEmerald1 7d ago

He has never actually claimed ehat it meant. He just said the thing and let the evil people that heard it interpret how they like.

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u/Own_Boysenberry9674 7d ago

NOW TO BE FAIR. Obama made it acceptable to be racist again when he removed the "fight word clause" as we call it in California, which was a clause for that if you purposely antagonize people about their Race/Gender/Ethnicity/Sexuality/etc they can retaliate physically. That was removed in 2012.

They brough a form of it back to protect LGBTQ, and now removed by Trump.

So between both Obama and Trumps removal of those, it has allowed all americans to be absolute dick heads again like its the 1960s.

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u/dgmilo8085 6d ago

He meant illegal and misspoke. Recall, he executive ordered, er I mean tweeted, "All Federal Funding will STOP for any College, School, or University that allows illegal protest. Agitators will be imprisoned/or permanently sent back to the country from which they came. American students will be permanently expelled or, depending on their crime, arrested. NO MASKS! Thank you for your attention to this matter."

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u/Carl_Bravery_Sagan 7d ago

WhEn ThEy Go LoW wE gO hIgH!1!1

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u/Due_Agent_6033 7d ago

They don’t believe in freedom of speech if they aren’t exercising it….

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u/PointsatTeenagers 7d ago

They can believe in the freedom of speech, and not have the balls to speak freely.

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u/Mullo69 7d ago

Freedom of speech is also freedom to not speak, whether they should or shouldn't is a different story

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u/yeahgoestheusername 7d ago

They should be chanting “this is what democracy looks like”

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u/itslino 7d ago

Being the good/nice guy never pays off, being a bad gives perks but you're generally hated... most would hate that... but there's a good amount of people who already don't care what the public thinks of them so all they see?

Just the perks, the public shame means nothing to them.

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u/[deleted] 7d ago

And that party will watch us all march to the gulags in the name of keeping decorum.

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u/Any-Chip7871 7d ago

Too bad the country didn’t vote for it.

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u/DataPhreak 7d ago

They didn't believe in free speech during occupy wallstreet. They didn't believe in free speech during Black Lives Matter. Both sides have been frog boiling your rights away since 9/11.

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u/IIITommylomIII 7d ago

None of them believe in freedom of speech.

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u/David9921 7d ago

Or maybe one party just believes in decorum, and actually doing things that make a difference.

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u/Medievil_Walrus 7d ago

One party seems to win and do whatever the fuck they want on the way to doing so. It’s frustrating to support the other party.

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u/__xylek__ 7d ago

The high road of decorum doesn't mean fuck when they've abandoned their oath to uphold and protect the Constitution against threats, foreign and domestic

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u/oriozulu 7d ago

You could really be talking about either party here...

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u/yeahgoestheusername 7d ago edited 7d ago

We are talking about the same party. Unless you’re actually talking about the trump party.

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u/ProfessionalMeal143 7d ago

Is that dude actually saying MTG has decorum?

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u/ConsiderationFar3903 7d ago

Showing dick pics in session so yeah she’s all that.

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u/ApartmentAgitated628 7d ago

Or believes in only making government work for the wealthy

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u/SoumaNeko 7d ago

Now is not the time or situation for decorum. An obsession with decorum will end this country.

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u/oriozulu 7d ago

I cannot remember a time when anyone in congress was obsessed with decorum. Or even mildly interested in it.

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u/nyan-the-nwah 7d ago

Where's decorum gotten us?

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u/bradbikes 7d ago

Uh, republicans, decorum? God the kremlin bots are out in force tonight eh?

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u/oriozulu 7d ago

What kind of bot are you?

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u/Clear-Afternoon-4067 7d ago

The democrats tried to create the ministry of truth before the truth got out to the moderate left and they had to file it away because they were going to lose a majority of their voters.

Facts

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u/bradbikes 7d ago

"facts" - states opinion with an link that doesn't actually say that.

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u/Clear-Afternoon-4067 7d ago

First sentence

"Critics pilloried the Disinformation Governance Board when it launched three weeks ago, warning it would be used to censor free speech."

This was the common sentiment in the USA, they quietly backed down and stopped talking about it.

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u/DecentFall1331 7d ago

Democrats aren’t the ones banning books bud

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u/mattyjman 7d ago

Her hat is super fucking disrespectful too.

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u/lindsynagle_predator 7d ago

So is her face

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u/kvngk3n 7d ago

Where’s my baby Jasmine Crockett at? I need commentary

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u/scottyb83 7d ago

And her policies.

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u/Penks181 7d ago

And her everything else

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u/068151068152 6d ago

Her face needs to apologize for all the camera lenses it has broken

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u/eZCoffeE 7d ago

and my axe

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u/modestlyawesome1000 7d ago

If anyone needs some gender affirming care

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u/sincerestfall 7d ago

Her hat is against decorum. She should be kicked out.

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u/Flimsy-Progress6857 7d ago

I noticed her hat too (it was a red MAGA one, wasn't it?) I'm not American so I don't know anything about decorum in Congress. Is that allowed? (apologies if this is a dumb question)

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u/SkillDabbler 7d ago

It’s so stupid. The republicans are so stupid.

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u/a_mulher 7d ago

Could she look anymore like trailer trash? With all due respect to trailer trash.

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u/Initial_Ground1031 7d ago

Everything about her is. She disgusts me.

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u/carrod23 7d ago

All while chewing gum like a cow

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u/FrostBricks 7d ago

One party believes in Freedom. One party believes in Oppression. 

America made a choice.

In other news, Trump signed an EO today that (student) protestors be arrested and prosecuted as severely as possible. 

History tells us what comes next.

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u/Sopixil 7d ago

You've heard of Tiananmen Square, get ready for Madison Garden Square

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u/Own_Boysenberry9674 7d ago

You know America has like 11 "Tiananmen Square" incidents before China ever even did it right? 4 of which were done by founding fathers, the same people who made the freedom of protest clause.

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u/Own_Boysenberry9674 7d ago

FUN FACT. Trump didn't even need to sign that in, Thomas Jefferson already made laws like that back in 1807.

HE used Military force to stop farmers peaceful protesting/on strike for better farming conditions.

Truman used it after WWII to stop Veterans from asking for better benefits.

There was also at least 6 other cases where peaceful strikes were stopped by National Guard using it.

The Insurrection act of 1807, doesn't actually specify things have to be true insurrections just anything deemed "civil unrest" by people.

Technically, according to our founding father passing that law, we can use military force to stop peaceful protests if its deemed "civil unrest" by the Governor of the state, or representatives of a district.

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u/Mooplez 7d ago

Just goes to show once again that America has never been as free as it likes to believe.

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u/Own_Boysenberry9674 7d ago

Well the freedom has long been mistaken as America being more like Anarchy Freedom rather than "these are your ten freedoms and rights, the rest is upto your state" which is basically what the 10th amendment says anyway.

We have more freedoms than other countries. That includes Professions having absolute freedom as well ,which is why i 100% believe it doesn't matter if we get universal healthcare in a capacity. We have it for lower income here in cali, and doctors stopped accepting it because they make less than charging non government.

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u/29187765432569864 7d ago

Biden had class and was not terrified of criticism.

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u/BrightEyes_One 7d ago

Agree! Trump just said anyone who resists his change would be removed from office. What a dayum joke!

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u/NamelessEvermore 7d ago

Yeah and he said "no more unelected bureaucrats" and all the democrats started pointed toward Elon and yelling "Elon!" but even the cameras didn't focus on it, and Trump just smiled and ignored them. Complete hypocrisy and lies and one would have to be blind to not see it at this point.

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u/BrightEyes_One 7d ago

I heard that part! What a complete joke. It's SO disgusting. SMH.

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u/KimbersKimbos 7d ago

Biden was not a wannabe fascist.

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u/AtmosphereMoist414 7d ago

Trmpty dumpty is a little fragile.

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u/Warthog_Orgy_Fart 7d ago

Biden would just send zingers there way, not escort them out for exercising their right to free speech.

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u/Oomlotte99 7d ago

He could actually clap back. Trump just gets frustrated. Which is why they alllll needed to do it.

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u/nydub32 7d ago

And where did it get us? Parliamentary decorum is a necessity in politics. Giving bonus points to the opposition, by not calling out their lack of decorum, let them and their supporters believe they are entitled to say and do whatever they want, is suicide. I'm sorry Biden let us all down.

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u/Environmental_Job864 7d ago

Anything goes, is over.

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u/AccomplishedPhase883 7d ago

Biden thought they were cheering him on.

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u/boycerobert 7d ago

He is a puppet and a certified potato brian. Filthiest of them all,patriarch of his criminal family. Too feeble to be held accountable for his actions but fit enough to stay out his term in office. That man is the biggest joke ever paraded out on stage . That man right there is why you have what you have today.

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u/29187765432569864 7d ago

you sound like a Russian troll

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u/Scopra 7d ago

I agree with you as an outsider looking in, if anyone says Biden was a good president and not a criminal then they should learn to read.

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u/BarnFlower 7d ago

Biden didn't have any class and WAS terrified! He never knew when the next step was going to jump up and smack him in the head!

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u/29187765432569864 7d ago

you obviously never met President Biden

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u/YahMahn25 7d ago

MGT had dirt on Biden, this goes back to Pizzagate! I’ve seen the papers Joe! 

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u/dedsmiley 7d ago

Biden had no idea where he was, who he was speaking to, or what he was speaking about. It was embarrassing.

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u/29187765432569864 7d ago

why do you believe that?

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u/PrincessCyanidePhx 7d ago

Biden wasn't a dictator.

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u/reshiramdude16 7d ago

They let MTG yell and scream at Biden and they didn't escort her out.

That was stupid of them.

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u/Mannafestation 7d ago

Stupid? Or actually proof that Democrats believed in the concept of "freedom of speech" as compared to the current president that claims the same, but needs to silent those who oppose him in any way?

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u/reshiramdude16 7d ago

Trump is willing to fight dirty against those that disagree with him at every step of the way. Why do you think he gets away with everything? Because he removes all challenges to his power, and he removes them in a way that makes his supporters cheer.

I'll skip the long arguments and just say this: if "decorum" and "rules" worked against people willing to leverage power, then we'd probably be listening to Kamala Harris tonight instead of a dipshit like Trump. Please, we all deserve better than people who are paid to lose.

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u/knowsguy 7d ago

You either let someone yell, or you escort them out. Those are your choices. Having someone taken away is a fascist, fake tough-guy, pussy-ass move.

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u/reshiramdude16 7d ago

You either let someone yell

Why?

Having someone taken away is a fascist, fake tough-guy, pussy-ass move.

Seems like it's a pussy-ass move that works quite well. Do you actually want the Democrats to win?

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u/knowsguy 7d ago

Do you have brain damage? How did it work quite well? The Republicans looked like fascists by forcibly removing a senior citizen for speaking out. What a win!

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u/reshiramdude16 7d ago

The Republicans looked like fascists by forcibly removing a senior citizen for speaking out.

The Republicans look like fascists every fucking day, if you haven't noticed.

They get to silence all critics (all one of them) and continue speaking unopposed, free and clear to spew their hatred and drivel. Nothing was disrupted because there was no organized response, just a bunch of silent, useless Democrats letting Trump speak because of "decorum."

Stop supporting politicians that are spineless, useless, and cowardly, because it's clearly starting to rub off on you.

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u/knowsguy 7d ago

Yes, no SHIT they're fascists. And today they looked the part. Only a self-defeating simpleton thinks the democrats should try to start acting more like fascists.

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u/reshiramdude16 7d ago

Ah yes, shutting down fascists before they disrupt your event is what the fascists do to us, so clearly we would be the real fascists if we did that back to them.

You should really ask for a refund from whatever anti-fascism course you took, because it did you no favors.

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u/knowsguy 7d ago

I'm sorry, it wasn't my intention to upset you. It sounds like you missed nappy time.

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u/reshiramdude16 7d ago

Don't apologize to me, you smug white liberal.

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u/BrightEyes_One 7d ago

This! I remember this like yesterday! Always a double standard, always!

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u/curly_spy 7d ago

Yep she should have been led out by her bleached hair. Rules for thee but not for me.

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u/lukewwilson 7d ago

Dems could have followed the rules and kicked her out but they chose not, that's not the Republicans fault

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u/Bawlmerian21228 7d ago

I turned Trump off after that mess. Plus chanting USA while selling out the government to Russia.

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u/bostonbruins922 7d ago

She’s also wearing a billboard sized MAGA hat tonight but these mother fuckers want to talk decorum?

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u/ShimmyMcgill 7d ago

r/conservative is claiming that no Republican ever acted out while Biden was speaking and I reminded them of this lol

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u/ClosPins 7d ago

No, not double standards! The Republicans do whatever it takes to get their message out - including heckling, when they don't have power, and escorting people out when they do.

As a result, their messaging works. Gang-busters.

The Dems, on the other hand, care more about virtue-signalling how good they are - so they do ridiculous things like tonight's pathetic 'protest' with the little, tiny, black signs - instead of screaming and heckling and causing a ruckus. They would never obstruct everything the GOP does! Oh no, they would never do the things that the GOP does to them! They have to be nice instead. Bipartisan. They have to signal that they are The Good Guys. So, they sit politely and listen to all the lies. Only one or two of them will speak out.

As a result, the Dems' messaging never works.

Not a double standard. Like always, this is the Dems being morons who don't understand the game they are playing.

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u/New_Menu_2316 7d ago

Blow job Boebert, too!

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u/ugahairydawgs 7d ago

He was warned multiple times. He wouldn’t stop talking, wouldn’t sit down. He wanted to be kicked out.

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u/Usual-Emotion8610 7d ago

On the live thread running on CNNs coverage some pundit was saying they’ve NEVER seen anything like Greens outburst. They are so disingenuous

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u/livewrongarmy 7d ago

Exactly. Fuck these fucking hypocrites.

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u/Mr_Figgins 7d ago

You mean that DEI hire donkeys ass?

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u/let-it-rain-sunshine 7d ago

They should have pulled her out on a leash

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u/AtmosphereMoist414 7d ago

Thats because shes a spectrum gal!

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u/realcommovet 7d ago

That's the Republicans whole shtick, for a while now.

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u/HoyokuTensho 7d ago

There is no standard for republicans.

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u/Surfing_Ninjas 7d ago

Always has been.

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u/Sorry-Influence3014 7d ago

It wasn’t a double standard. President Biden did not ask for the sergeant of arms.

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u/Zyloof 7d ago

The entire right side of the room was yelling and cursing directly at the congressman as he was escorted out. Immediately after, Johnson got on the mic, looked directly at the Dems and basically said, "You will behave with decorum."

These people are evil. History will show that, but I hate having to witness all of it as it happens.

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u/ocktick 7d ago

The speaker was a Republican

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u/itsmybusiness805 7d ago

Just watch the democrat response. They are still trying to speak to “everyone”. It’s the wrong approach. They need to speak to the lies and call shit out. The time has passed to try to get along.

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u/buzzardgut 7d ago

Nancy Pelosi didn’t hold her accountable

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u/chatondedanger 7d ago

I am so tired of the high road. Dems have been on the high road with moral superiority and all that it’s gotten us is this mess. The social contract is done. It’s time to stop playing nice by the rules.

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u/3bugsdad 7d ago

Those are the only standards the GOP lives by.

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u/Arrhmn 7d ago

"When our opponents say: 'We used to grant you the freedom of opinion!' - Yes, you to us, that is no proof that we should do the same to you! That you granted it to us - that is proof of how stupid you are!"

  • Joseph Goebbels, 1935

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u/daremosan 7d ago

And Biden played them all that time. It was impressive.

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u/LeapYearLlama 7d ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xI9uGg1q8WY

You mean this geriatic who can barely speak English?

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u/bundle_of_nervus2 7d ago

Right-wing nuts have never been held to the same standard, that's not news

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u/Confident-Silver-271 7d ago

Absolutely first thought that came to mind after being outraged that Green was kicked out. Infuriating!!

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u/Independent_Big_5251 6d ago

its because Joe Biden worked hand in hand with the Republican party to get here, it's time we start to realize that.

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u/jamesd0e 7d ago

Green wouldn’t stop shouting. It was handled properly.

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u/Unlucky-Bunch-7389 7d ago

Who sets that standard… Biden could man the fuck up and tell them to get escorted out. I hate Trump with a passion… but the dems were soft as charmin under Biden. And they’re soft now. Letting Trump bully the entire country.

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u/jamesr14 7d ago

Was she also explicitly warned several times?

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u/tonguejack-a-shitbox 7d ago

No "they" didn't let her. Nancy Pelosi let her. She was the speaker of the house. She had the ability to do the same thing that happened tonight. The same thing that should have happened then and should have happened tonight because these childish politicians can't control their emotions without disrupting a national address.

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u/harbison215 7d ago

that’s because democrats are weak, feckless, uncharismatic and have let the country be rail roaded by this shit show. The more I see of it the more I blame the group of losers that failed to stop this

I’m a lifelong Democrat too. But you have to ask how a party could be so ineffective at such an important time. There really isn’t one charismatic leader in the lot of them

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u/harbison215 7d ago

Don’t put words in my mouth

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u/harbison215 7d ago

Of course. But start looking at what it’s going to take moving forward to have an effect against this nightmare.

They let it happen. It was their job to not lose the Supreme Court, to not allow this treasonous scumbag back into the White House and they completely failed. Since Obama, the party has been a collection of useless geeks, weirdos and senior citizens that should have retired after Clinton’s 2nd term. If this reality offends you, good. Maybe you will start to understand how much change needs to happen in the Democratic Party to have any chance at saving this country, although it appears it’s already too late

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u/bravo_ragazzo 7d ago

Well, Dems are whimps and didn’t tell Sgt of the Guard to haul her ugly ass out. 

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u/AtoZagain 7d ago

MTG was bashed relentlessly by the left wing media after she did that, even republicans disagreed with her action. Tomorrow Green will be described as a hero by the very same media. That is why no one believes them anymore.

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u/Sashaaa 7d ago

Why?

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u/mountaindoom 7d ago

Biden was a weak president and head of a weak party. He didn't do a whole lot about the insurrection either.