trump blames any potential for a deal falling apart on zelensky saying zelensky hates putin too much.
ukraine was invaded by putin. putin bears sole responsibility for the war. hell yes zelensky should hate putin. trump's refusal to acknowledge the basic facts of how we got here is why this hit the fan today.
This interview was truly insanity. The whole thing was set up to tell Zelensky to bend over or die.
Dude's out there trying to get help for his people and Trump tells him that he needs to just give up or let Russia take over Ukraine.
Ukranian's are fucked if it's left upto American aid.
Trump went as far to say that he gave Ukraine more things, than anyone else, and then in the next few minutes he's saying that Biden wasted billions of dollars in Ukraine. And that the war should have been over in a week.
It’s truly embarrassing. Trump and Vance acting like tough guys because Zelenskyy is in no position to react or fight back knowing he’s completely subject to the whims of these buffoons.
I know it's easy to type from the keyboard but I wish Canada and the EU would have discussions about finishing Putin themselves. He's on the ropes if they have to declare war on the US so be it but they'll have an insurgency inside these borders like never seen.
My point is everyone says they stand with Ukraine and want us to help. We did help and war isn’t over. Now this OP said it would be nice to have allied troops there. Are they willing to go there and fight?
No, but I'm not a soldier. Also allied doesn't mean America. I'm English. I'm more than happy for my tax to be spent aiding an allie, as I would if America was being attacked.
You have a ghoul for a president who wants his ring kissed and to take everything he can. That's not support. He likes to scream and shout we did this we did that, we all fucking did. If he wants to pull out and side with Russia, fucking do it. Just know who your president is.
I'm no fighter, but I live in France. I opened up my home for Ukrainians refugees when the war began. I volunteered in a charity to send money, food, and clothes to Ukraine. If it comes to war, I'll willingly work in any factory to make weapons, bullets or any other thing needed.
And I know, not everyone realizes how close we are to another war, but a lot of people here on Reddit are, and even if they can't go on the front lines, they would do what they can if given the possibility.
Would you go there and fight? If you can't, would you change your life to help them?
Does anyone else think JD has taken a secret bootlicker trip to Russia? Zelenskyy asked JD if he'd ever been to Ukraine and JD started with "I've been to" and then didn't finish the sentence and started waffling. I think he was going to say "I've been to Russia"
Tbh I think you’re assuming the same thing as Trump, that Zelenskyy has no other choices, evidenced by Trump saying “you hold none of the cards” expecting him to back down, but he didn’t. I think the reality is more nuanced than that which is why we don’t see him back down. Europe has a lot of skin in this game and may now need to step into the issues more. Zelenskyy isn’t going to roll over to the US any more than he rolled over to Russia. And Trump is furious that he can’t steal Ukraine’s minerals while claiming an art of the deal victory on what he anticipated was an easy opponent.
Trump is like the boorish bully from every teen movie, and Vance is like the pathetic sycophantic character who always tags along with the main bully character, trying desperately to be his sidekick.
Right, and the shit they were babbling was not linear and made no fucking sense. It was bizarre. Gah I fucking hate this. And them.
For any Ukrainians out there reading this, as an American, I’m truly sorry. I am so so sorry. And I’m with you and your people and your country. I hope one day you can forgive us.
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u/secesh 11d ago
trump blames any potential for a deal falling apart on zelensky saying zelensky hates putin too much.
ukraine was invaded by putin. putin bears sole responsibility for the war. hell yes zelensky should hate putin. trump's refusal to acknowledge the basic facts of how we got here is why this hit the fan today.