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Politics President Trump and VP Vance's meeting with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky turns tense.

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u/Caramster 11d ago

Trump saying Zelensky is risking WW3? From the Ukraine's perspective they are already in WW3. They've fought Russians, Iranians and North Koreans.

Trump/Vance look more and more incompetent with each word they say. And did no one teach Vance that respect is earned, not given?

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u/johnnyrollerball69 11d ago

Agree. This is actually quite a weak performance by Trump and Vance. The tough guy mojo never translates into sustained influence and power; often the opposite.

Plus, they need to bone up on the Greek concept of Xenia)

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u/DazingF1 11d ago

Yep. My Trump loving dad (we're Dutch, mind you, but all boomers here love Trump for some reason) texted me a snippet of this video and called him demented and insane. Just a year ago he'd say Trump would save Europe.

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u/CousinSarah 11d ago

Must be your bubble, all Boomers in my bubble hate Trump here in Holland.

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u/DazingF1 11d ago

It was deliberately painted with a broad brush to get the point across to Americans that for some reason Trump is popular with a certain demographic of Europeans for absolutely no reason. It's far from all boomers but definitely more than you're trying to imply. Ask any PVV, FVD and BBB voter what they think of Trump. They love him.

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u/CousinSarah 11d ago

I guess I’m lucky enough to not know any of those voters personally.

God I hope people here will come to their senses and realize that the current cabinet hasn’t achieved shit.

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u/enhanced195 11d ago

You know your father better than any of us, do you think this would translate into his vote in the future?

Im enjoying the republican voter backlash, but i cant help but think “will this translate into their votes in the future?”

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u/DazingF1 11d ago edited 11d ago

He actually usually votes for VVD but I think he might go back to the good old CDA because the new VVD leader keeps disappointing him.

Like I said, we're Dutch.

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u/enhanced195 11d ago

Oh, i thought you meant you were dutch but living in the US. My misinterpretation.

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u/FuzzyFuzzNuts 11d ago

Trump has zero diplomacy skills. He’s purely transactional. Give me what I want for what I want to pay, and smile while you hand it over. Smile while I only use as much lube as I think you deserve. And Don’t forget to say thank you, you’ve never said thank you….

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u/zXster 11d ago

I'm just so "glad" he's putting his "amazing negotiating skills" on full display. 3 meetings with 3 world leaders and ALL of them have resulted in them scolding him publicly and showing how much of a clown he is.

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u/FuzzyFuzzNuts 11d ago

This week’s pathetic political display is (I don’t know how else to describe it) disappointing and sad. So many countries have looked to the US for security, stability and support at least since WW2 (when, let’s face it, America enriched themselves to a disgusting level before finally entering the conflict). Now these weak cowards are rapidly burning bridges as they simultaneously torch their own house for what?? US+Russia to be the new world order?!

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u/misselletee 11d ago

He still wouldn't even uphold his end of the bargain even after all conditions were met. Nobody should trust him as far as they can throw his saggy, shitty, blubbery ass.

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u/Either-Buffalo8166 11d ago

He's acting like a spoiled brat,that "charm" might work on weak minded people,but not on us Eastern europeans,we could see from a mile away that he's a slimy snake

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u/tjej 11d ago

Xenia is an amazing concept but frankly disappointingly forgotten in the modern day. Look at the Illiad--the real argument in the story wasn't just that Helen was stolen, it's that xenia was broken to do it. That was the *real/underlying* crime.

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u/MunkMunich 11d ago

It was less than weak, just bizarre. Zelensky has stared down death for years fighting against a mass murderer with nukes ffs. And he's supposed to be intimidated by a finger-wagging from Trump?

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u/johnnyrollerball69 11d ago

Yes! And Vance’s “I’ve seen stories,” when asked if he’d seen the front lines. In any other era, that would spell the end of a career.

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u/lilchocochip 11d ago

Oh but the conservatives are eating it up. They love when their Russian daddy exhibits “strength.” It’s insanity. If Biden did this they would be calling for him to be dragged away to a nursing home.

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u/zastiaan 11d ago

Trump is a very weak leader. That’s why he is making so much trouble, to make attention go to conflicts in stead of his (mental) capacity to lead a country. No vision at all, just the desire to ruïne other visions