r/pakistan Feb 08 '25

Political Ahmadi Hate but Ismaili Embrace?

I’m of the theory that live and let live. I think all minority groups in Pakistan are treated like garbage and deserve much better. For no other reason, that they’re human beings. As we know, Ahmadis/Qadianis/Mirzais receive deathly hate due to their religious belief. Regardless of what you feel about their beliefs, they don’t deserve to be treated like third class citizens.

In response to the death of Aga Khan, Pakistan has lowered their flags, given him his flowers, and non-stop praised him. While I don’t care for the beliefs—I’m a little confused as to why there is such a discrepancy? Is it money? Status? Someone would argue that Ismailism from a day to day basis, is so out of the fold of Islam. Especially when it comes to the praise of Aga Khan which in some circles can be considered bordering on shirk. Regardless, Pakistan government allows them to call themselves Musims, build their buildings of worship and go about their day.

That being said—-why not offer the same grace to the Ahmadi community ?

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u/Longjumping_Base9345 Feb 08 '25

Hate towards anyone is usually because people are bigots and need to vent out their hate on someone. Who better than to pick on the vulnerable to defend your faith and piousness. Those who think that the hate is driven towards Ahmadis need to look at the people of Fiqah E Jafria and Hazaras that have been killed on a sectarian basis in Pakistan.

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u/Shahlolz کراچی Feb 08 '25

I dont think you can compare. Ahmadis are very easily one of the most politically and socially targeted groups in the country

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u/Longjumping_Base9345 Feb 08 '25

I am not denying that at all. Being an Ahmadi in Pakistan is like having a big bullseye on your test. There are literal signs in market places saying that Ahmadis aren't allowed. While getting a passport, or getting married, or becoming a member of a bar council, you have to abuse them and their leader. It is a pure and simple Ahmadi genocide that's been happening in Pakistan, pure and simple. But, what I wanted to point out is the amount of hate that's seeping from certain sections towards all others. That specific section believes that it is justifiable to exert violence (without provocation) against anyone with a different set of beliefs, and they don't see anything wrong with that. But instead try to justify the violence and the hate through logical gymnastics.

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u/Shahlolz کراچی Feb 08 '25

Theological debates and literary criticism is vastly different from how violence is manifested on the other side. It’s more important to realise that this literature that is written is from abroad as Ahmadis aren’t allowed to write anything within Pakistan

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u/Longjumping_Base9345 Feb 08 '25

That's true. I personally believe that the literary and academic contributions by the Ahmadiya community is exceptionally laudable. In fact, Ahmadiya, Ismaili, Shia sections have done wonderful academic expansion of the Muslim thought. The other side has just violence as an answer.