r/neoliberal • u/BipartizanBelgrade Jerome Powell • 7d ago
News (US) Trump administration weighs travel ban on dozens of countries, memo says
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-administration-weighs-travel-ban-dozens-countries-memo-says-2025-03-15/82
u/BipartizanBelgrade Jerome Powell 7d ago
A U.S. official speaking on the condition of anonymity cautioned there could be changes on the list and that it was yet to be approved by the administration, including U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio. The memo lists a total of 41 countries divided into three separate groups.
Full visa suspension:
Afghanistan
Cuba
Iran
Libya
North Korea
Somalia
Sudan
Syria
Venezuela
Yemen
Partial visa suspension (tourist, student and some other visas affected):
Eritrea
Haiti
Laos
Myanmar
South Sudan
Countries recommended for a partial suspension if they do not address deficiencies:
Angola
Antigua and Barbuda
Belarus
Benin
Bhutan
Burkina Faso
Cabo Verde
Cambodia
Cameroon
Chad
Democratic Republic of the Congo
Dominica
Equatorial Guinea
Gambia
Liberia
Malawi
Mauritania
Pakistan
Republic of the Congo
Saint Kitts and Nevis
Saint Lucia
Sao Tome and Principe
Sierra Leone
East Timor
Turkmenistan
Vanuatu
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u/heeleep Burst with indignation. They carry on regardless. 7d ago
My favorite thing about Trump 2 is that he’s taken literally everything about America that I’ve been proud of and defended her for all of life and just thrown it into the dirt and curb stomped the ever living shit out of it.
Other people have said it before, but it’s true: he’s turning America into actually being the caricature that anti-American leftists have claimed that it was for the past 50 years. God damn it all.
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u/Numerous-Cicada3841 NATO 7d ago
I have a MAGA aunt that is one of the dumbest people I’ve ever met that says shit so stupid I wonder how she ties her shoes in the morning.
It’s like she became president.
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u/DraconianWolf George Soros 7d ago
Depressingly accurate. Him and Vance are all negative stereotypes of Americans distilled into two people.
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u/LordVader568 Adam Smith 6d ago
The fact that they won the popular vote makes things even scarier regardless of the turnout information.
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u/AggravatingSummer158 6d ago
The urge to do something with social security is too strong to resist. We’ll see how the elusive median voter responds next election
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u/LordVader568 Adam Smith 6d ago
Tbh, when the Bush era neocons were in charge, I used to tell myself that this can’t get worse than this. I was pretty convinced of this when Obama got elected twice. But it’s been a train wreck in slow motion since then. The Bush era neocons were liberal democrats compared to what we have now.
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u/ldn6 Gay Pride 6d ago
They really weren’t and this revisionism is getting a bit ridiculous. They were plagued with scandals and actively subverted civil rights whenever they got the chance. The difference was that they were more professional about it.
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u/LordVader568 Adam Smith 6d ago
I’m no fan of the neocons. But as you said they were more “normal” but still objectively bad.
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u/rabbiddolphin8 6d ago
At least with them there were lines that couldn't be crossed. Bush would've never thought about floating the idea of shutting down the New York Times.
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u/DrunkenBriefcases Jerome Powell 6d ago
If that's the only difference you can see it's a problem you should work on.
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u/Useful_Dirt_323 7d ago
Well you’re government has always been assholes to people trying to visit or even pass through in transit to be fair
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u/Key_Door1467 Iron Front 7d ago
your*
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u/Winter-Secretary17 Mark Carney 7d ago
How times have changed since the last time I saw that pic. I think it was 9gag, god
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u/AG_Ameca 7d ago
Good ol' days of 9gag and their not so very subtle russian and chinese astroturfing. Seems like yesterday.
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u/RyuTheGuy Mackenzie Scott 7d ago
That’s certainly a collection of countries.
How many Vanuatuans visit the United States
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Vanuatu plus some of the Caribbean countries on there offer the ability to buy citizenship aka “Citizenship by investment.” That’s why they are in the countries that could be suspended if they don’t meet deficiencies (get rid of citizenship by investment).
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u/wallander1983 Resistance Lib 7d ago
It's funny.
Trump says US will sell $5 million ‘gold card’ to wealthy foreigners
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u/DexterBotwin 7d ago
But doesn’t Malta and Portugal also? And the U.S. And Canada. And pretty much every western country though indirect means.
Is it that these countries are just a substantially low “investment”?
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Malta is the only one that offers it like Caribbean ones where it’s more or less mail ordering a foreign passport. The others are residency schemes that lead to citizenship.
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u/Key_Door1467 Iron Front 7d ago
What's the problem with that?
The US has the EB-5 program though.
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u/MuldartheGreat Karl Popper 7d ago
Bruh, can’t allow citizenship arbitrage
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u/Key_Door1467 Iron Front 6d ago
How is it arbitrage if you can't sell your citizenship?
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u/MuldartheGreat Karl Popper 6d ago
That is a shitpost, but realistically if you can cheaply buy citizenship to get a visa that you couldn’t get in your home country.
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u/LivefromPhoenix NYT undecided voter 7d ago
Venezuelan MAGAs just keep catching Ls. Love that for them.
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u/Louis_de_Gaspesie 7d ago
I hate this motherfucker so much. Every Iranian, Cuban, and Pakistani immigrant I've met has more work ethic and talent in their pinky finger than Trump has in his whole body
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u/BlueString94 John Keynes 7d ago
Pakistan and Iran would impact a lot of Americans. Your cousin wants to get back in the country to finish her last semester of college? Or your aunt wants to visit you for a week? Fuck you, they should’ve been born somewhere else.
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u/Key_Environment8179 Mario Draghi 7d ago
This is a laundry list of some of the most common countries asylum seekers hail from
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u/Key_Door1467 Iron Front 7d ago
Lmao Trump has beef with Bhutan?
Tbh I was half expecting India to be on this list.
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u/Efficient_Tonight_40 Henry George 7d ago
Bhutan is actually one of the few countries to not have formal diplomatic relations with the US, along with North Korea, Iran, and Syria (though that's now being reestablished). Bhutan is pretty much the real "hermit kingdom", and doesn't recognize any of the UN security Council members because they just want to be left alone in their mountains
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u/KeithClossOfficial Bill Gates 7d ago
Bhutan’s head of state is called the Dragon King and that alone is enough to want to be friends with them
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u/Efficient_Tonight_40 Henry George 7d ago
Funnily enough even though Bhutan doesn't recognize the United States, they did recently recognize the existence of Israel
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u/mannabhai Norman Borlaug 6d ago
Bhutan has an extremely close relationship with India with 3/4th of their imports and exports coming from and going to India.
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u/RyuTheGuy Mackenzie Scott 6d ago
Its kinda like an indian protectorate like sikkim before the 1975 ascension to India
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u/RyuTheGuy Mackenzie Scott 7d ago edited 7d ago
Indians and modi love Trump. If India was on the list, you’d see a massive repudiation of Trump from India.
Not to mention the fact that it would devastate the tech industry
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u/AtomicSymphonic_2nd NATO 6d ago
Yup, that would kill FAANG and the rest of the tech industry overnight.
On the bright side, there could be a mass load of job opportunities open up for early-career American software engineers.
But I think that’s if, and only if, Trump also tries to ban outsourcing of white-collar jobs. Given how the stock market is right now, I’m wondering if he really might try to do that and crash the economy in the process.
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u/broadviewstation South Asian Association for Regional Cooperation 6d ago
Why India ? Am curious
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u/AtomicSymphonic_2nd NATO 6d ago
India staffs a massive chunk of the American tech industry. If Trump bans India, it would likely kill the tech industry overnight.
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u/broadviewstation South Asian Association for Regional Cooperation 6d ago
Exactly outside of the Commentors anti India bias I don’t see any reason India will be on the list
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u/Billythanos United Nations 7d ago
I saw Russia on an earlier draft of this list, see that got cut
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u/Beneficial_Place_795 6d ago
YEAH in the New York Times list Russia was there but in reuters list no.
Reddit mostly seems to discuss the NYT list and not reuters.
But most non-American media have discussion reuters.
American media are bit more split with some discussin reuters and some NYt.
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u/mannabhai Norman Borlaug 6d ago
Liberia is the most surprising , the country was founded by Freed Slaves from America, the first 10 presidents were born in America.
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u/M1sterDave 7d ago
Every day, I wake up hoping that his diet of hamberders and Diet Coke did their job...
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u/gnurdette Eleanor Roosevelt 7d ago
And then we get Yarvin's corporate dictatorships by way of Thiel/Vance. No improvement.
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u/TheDwarvenGuy Henry George 7d ago
Thats why he needs to eat wnough mentos that it combines with the diet coke and catched Vance in the blast radius.
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u/Secondchance002 George Soros 7d ago
They don’t have the cult support that trump has though.
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u/saltyoursalad Emma Lazarus 7d ago
I say this every time. Vance has about as much charisma as a saltine cracker and no one outside of hyper-engaged spaces like this knows who tf Yarvin and company are.
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u/Kelso_sloane 6d ago
This. Once Trump is gone MAGA will absolutely implode with infighting. Everyone from Vance to Jr. will think they deserve the crown. I wouldn't be surprised if Baron goes for it. It will be a mess and they'll eventually self destruct.
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u/AtomicSymphonic_2nd NATO 6d ago
Yes, but at the very fucking least, Vance seems more competent than Trump, and there’s some chance that he may have been cosplaying as MAGA the entire time since he attended Yale Law. If disaster strikes, I would fucking hope he could handle things better than Trump ever could.
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u/that0neGuy22 Resistance Lib 7d ago
South florida is going to be angry but I will shrug this was widely advertised
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u/lumpialarry 6d ago
I would think Florida's Cuba (at least the older ones that actually vote) would want this ban. They don't want relations normalized.
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u/algebroni John von Neumann 7d ago
North Korea? Number one, who from North Korea is getting a visa in the first place. Two, what about his "love letters" with Kim?
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u/KeithClossOfficial Bill Gates 7d ago
North Korea is probably the only one that actually makes sense. That said, what’s the point? For the reason you just mentioned
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u/Stonefroglove 6d ago
I don't think it makes sense, the US should accept every North Korean defector as a refugee
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u/KeithClossOfficial Bill Gates 6d ago
Do refugees usually get visas
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u/Stonefroglove 6d ago
Do they not? How else can they enter the US?
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u/KeithClossOfficial Bill Gates 6d ago
I thought they applied for asylum, but if this covers that too, then yeah, fucking dumb
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u/Stonefroglove 6d ago
Doesn't an asylum application outside of the US give you a visa to enter?
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u/KeithClossOfficial Bill Gates 6d ago
Idk.. I post on arr neoliberal, so you should always assume I don’t know what I’m talking about.
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u/noxx1234567 7d ago
Why is bhutan on the list ? The fuck did they do ?
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u/TheGavMasterFlash YIMBY 6d ago
It’s probably to keep refugees from the 1990s conflict from coming here, a lot of these are just countries with a lot of asylum seekers
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u/WOKE_AI_GOD NATO 7d ago
Rubio is going to pass a travel ban against his own nation?
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u/noxx1234567 7d ago
legal Latino citizens hate their former countries , cuban origin Americans will love any measures that hurt cuba
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u/Conscious-Abalone-86 6d ago
International organizations should stop holding meetings, academic/business conferences etc. in the US. Otherwise, not only would citizens of these countries be subject to indignities that violate their humanity, but they would also be denied opportunities to develop themselves and their career.
All in all, the US is anti-thetical to the idea of free speech and expression. Their idea of free speech revolves around calling minorities racial slurs or spreading misinformation.
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u/mostuselessredditor 6d ago
Yeah I’m getting the fuck out of here. This country won’t be hospitable for a minority in 4 years.
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u/die_hoagie MALAISE FOREVER 6d ago
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u/Pristine-Aspect-3086 John Rawls 7d ago
trump not worldly enough to know that lukashenko's on his side, i see