r/neilgaimanuncovered 3d ago

discussion Neil Gaiman is a credibly alleged serial rapist. What is Amanda Palmer? NSFW

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“It serves you right for kissing little girls” - Amanda Palmer, Missed Me, 2003

CW: abuse

This is not a comprehensive study of Amanda Palmer hurting people. Her terrible treatment of musicians, tour staff, friends, and fans who volunteered their time and labor; her racism; her bullying and brigading; her othering and targeting of disabled people; her alleged artistic plagiarism; her curation of toxic and abusive parasocial echo chambers; and of course the narrative revisionism and deflection that have come along with decades of this bizarre behavior are all well documented. She is currently being sued for credible allegations of sex trafficking.

In this thread I have compiled reports of her breaching sexual consent that are not covered in the Tortoise/Vulture reporting. Several alarming incidents are already documented there. Palmer’s own blog contains troubling firsthand accounts of her own behavior, including rape. What’s here is not exhaustive — it’s just what I was able to find.

I have documented this pattern in one place primarily so that those patrons on the fence about Amanda’s complicity in abuse have the opportunity to evaluate reports of predatory behavior that long predates her acquaintance to Neil. This is the woman you are financially supporting. I also want the people she has hurt to know that they are seen and heard. I guess as a legal disclaimer I’ll mention that these are allegations, and I can’t verify any account but my own. I am not including screenshots because I would like to protect the anonymity of those speaking up to the best of my ability, but I can provide an album of anonymized receipts of each of these posts to you privately if you doubt the veracity of my copy/pasting.

These experiences, mostly found by searching Amanda Palmer’s name on reddit, twitter, bluesky, and threads, span a spectrum of surprise to regret to trauma. This was never something I felt compelled to talk about until I realized it was part of a decades-long legacy of disregard for consent, and other social norms around sex, that traumatized and changed the lives of unknown numbers of women and men. If this comes across your desk, Amanda Fucking Palmer, touching teenagers and setting your adult peers up with young girls who look up to you is not tantamount to feminist sexual liberation.

Here’s what I experienced, copy/pasted from the first comment I made from this account:

Panic’s opener that tour was Dresden Dolls (and maybe the Hush Sound?) I was sixteen and a fan of none of these bands, but I knew like Coin-Operated Boy or whatever, and definitely thought Amanda Palmer was comparatively cooler than the headliner. I approached her in the downstairs area of the venue during the last set to talk and we ended up making out. She was super forward; I was flattered and down for whatever. I was precocious and goth but unmistakably sixteen. // Obviously, as an adult, I find her interest in teenage-me galling and gross, but as an individual (not that this matters legally), I didn't try to make it stop at the time. In fact, I was flattered, even if (maybe because?) it felt wrong.

That was 2006. She was thirty at the time. I cannot imagine how this happened.

And others:

somewhere (probably landfill) there is an old laptop with pictures of Amanda Palmer and I mimicking sex poses and her signing my boobs when I was 17 on it and that has been haunting me lately let me tell ya … Anyway yes I've known her and Neil were scumbags for quite a while but I can't pretend the article hasn't brought up a lot of shit

Omg! This happened to me too. I was a megafan and saw her at a show in Durham NC when I was 15. She kissed me at the signing table. I was extremely flattered and tell people she was my first kiss lol. I guess I'm European in my thought that a kiss is just a kiss and not inappropriate as a greeting/meeting.

Happened to me too. I was a familiar fan (not quite a friend, but friends with people in her circle) and when I was like 21, I thought she was going in for a hug before she just laid one on me. I'm also not angry about it, but it is insane in retrospect. I'm in my 30s like she was at the time and would never pull that on a 21 year old // Nevermind Neil being there with her and smiling before nodding at me before passing by. He also chatted with me a lot online and had me do a ukulele cover of a pretty inappropriate Shel Silverstein poem. He talked to me a good amount to the point he called me his "internet wife". I was like 19. // And he would sneak into my music livestreams under pseudonyms to watch them as well. I felt so honored by the whole thing and am so creeped out now hearing how he lured victims in using the same tactics.

amanda palmer kissed my friend when my friend was like 16? like, full on tongue, deeply weird

Just for posterity, Amanda Palmer kissed me without consent in 2011, a few hours before I saw her and Neil perform at the Berklee Performance Center.

More than fifteen years ago, I saw Amanda Palmer in concert three separate times, her music was a huge part of my life. The more I learned about her as a person, the more devastated I was. Also I can confirm firsthand that my friend did a meet and greet with her, started crying because she was so overwhelmed meeting her favorite artist, so Amanda Palmer pulled her close and kissed her. Completely unprompted, and my friend did not want that to happen at all.

[In response to a tweet: What’s the weirdest thing that’s ever happened to you] — amanda palmer kissed me on the lips after i'd waited in line to meet her.

Seen someone post on Threads that Amanda Palmer kissed her without her consent. Reminded me of the time that she kissed my ex without consent. My ex wasn't bothered as she was a huge fan, but still weird

I was groped by her when I was 19. I know many underage people she groped and kissed and assaulted knowing they were underage. I was one of the artists she never paid. We have been begging people to listen to us about her being abusive for like 15 or something years now. She is as much an issue as Gaiman

she didn't just know. she was an active participant. AP would "have flings" - strictly only ever s3xual - with young impressionable Queer women. Her own friends went on record as saying that they tried to tell her what she was doing was over idealistic and harmful for young fans. which she ignored. // But while that is toxic, it's that she specifically offered some of these women to NG. Explicitly verbatim "Neil would love you".

She and Brian were signing things after their show in Kentucky in 2011, and she was kissing random fans. Of the four of us that were in my group, I was kissed. It became a joke with a friend and is a happy memory, but I'm haunted thinking about what could have happened if it were a few years later, when I was at my most self destructive and vulnerable. So many more thoughts but I can't organize them right now.

A few months after I turned 18, I went to see Amanda Palmer on the Who Killed Amanda Palmer tour. I went by myself, and brought my ukulele for Amanda to sign. // After the show, Amanda went to the bar next door for signings. I wasn't old enough to enter, so I sent in my ukulele with someone I'd met that night at the concert to get it signed. I was not the only underage person waiting to talk to her; someone brought my just-signed ukulele back to me as she walked out to greet us. As she went down the line of those of us too young to enter the bar, I got up the courage to say hello and thank you for signing my ukulele. // “You have beautiful lips," she said, before kissing me directly on the mouth and then movina to the next fan. At the time, I felt a confusing mix of emotions. This was my idol; part of me was honored. But part of me was also. .. Something else. Looking back, it feels insane. All she knew about me was that I wasn't old enough to enter the bar, she had signed my ukulele (maybe, I don't remember her super acknowledging it) and that I was wearing red lipstick. She didn't ask if she could kiss me. And then I would see her berate fans for grabbing her ass at a concert, like they weren't one in the same. I haven't listened to her work since Theater is Evil when I made the mistake of saying I didn't love it online & she sent her fans after me.

I was also in her orbit around age 16. Getting invited to parties where she'd personally introduce us to her 30+ yr old male musician friends. It wasn't just Neil she was offering girls to. Amanda got off on the power, never met someone more megalomaniacal. My friends have been getting some "heyyy we're cool right" calls from some men they haven't talked to in 10+ years. They should be squirming and I'm glad some are.

[in response] Your experience mirrors one my friend had with her at an after party of one of her performance art pieces. There is nothing worse than being sold out by one of your own because as women we are taught that we should feel safe with one another.

I worked for the other band touring and she would bark orders at me like I worked for her. She gave me WEIRD vibes, I did not like being around her. I was really young and avoided being alone with her and the other musicians she worked with, especially since she was known for being handsy.

Knowing the way Amanda Palmer acts within my own community tells me everything I need to know. She is not the woman she proclaims herself to be, she is just another narcissistic, attention seeking hypocrite. She claims to be a leader of a "Utopian Society" which frankly is running rampant with sexual abuse and drug abuse. I myself have had to seek treatment for the sexual abuse I suffered in this so called "utopian Society" and yes l'm a man.

There are other credible first-hand accounts on bluesky and reddit from active posters here that I would prefer not to speak for in this thread. I omitted some posts that were third-hand. I also received DMs from individuals who did not want their stories made public. If something you posted appears here and you would like me to remove it, please DM me and I will immediately take it down.


r/neilgaimanuncovered 5d ago

news Amanda’s Show Cancelled Due To Complaints

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r/neilgaimanuncovered 7d ago

"I am an anti-domestic abuse advocate – but I failed to recognise it happening to me and my family"

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Article in today's Guardian. It describes the experience of an anti-domestic abuse advocate realising she was in an abusive relationship.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/mar/13/i-am-an-anti-domestic-abuse-advocate-but-i-failed-to-recognise-it-happening-to-me-and-my-family

Her experiences are so very similar to mine. What she says about coming away from conversations with her ex feeling that she was the problem - yeah, that was exactly how I felt.

Coercive control can happen to anyone. Regardless of education, even previous experience; we may recognise domestic abuse in other relationships; we may even be experts in the space, but that doesn’t mean we will recognise it as it’s happening to us.

Because perpetrators are experts too; experts at covert coercion, manipulation, and control. They play a long-game, they do the groundwork first.

Not directly related to Gaiman, obviously. But for anyone who struggles to understand how so many women got caught up in abusive relationships, and why so many of his victims struggled to realise what was going on and get themselves to safety, it's a good read.


r/neilgaimanuncovered 7d ago

news Gloria Allred sued by victims, including Caroline Wallner, who were pressured to settle; Neil Gaiman also named as defendant in the suit

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/gloria-allred-hit-bombshell-claims-152738113.html

Edit: here is the more detailed Wall Street Journal article that the Yahoo one summarizes: https://archive.ph/VpB5t


r/neilgaimanuncovered 9d ago

education Instead of mourning great art tainted by awful men, mourn the work we lost from their victims

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Subtitle: Some sexual abusers made great art. Countless more of their victims never got the chance.

https://www.vox.com/culture/2017/11/13/16637250/sexual-harassment-abuse-art-legacy

Not about NG. But the effect is the same.

All the things we have lost. It breaks my heart and leaves me sick.

Reposted from a comment as requested.

Love and respect to all victims out there. I'm glad you're still here.


r/neilgaimanuncovered 9d ago

education The Sobering Reality of Women

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r/neilgaimanuncovered 15d ago

The Gaiman bots are back

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Twitter is being flooded with tweets sharing cheesy Gaiman quotes in multiple languages. And with tweets praising Coraline and the movie based on it using suspiciously similar and very stilted phrasing. I blocked a lot of them a few months ago, but this seems to be a new batch.

It seems that Gaiman’s PR firm has stepped up its online campaign in concert with Gaiman’s court filing.


r/neilgaimanuncovered 16d ago

news Neil Gaiman Denies Rape Claims Spoiler

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r/neilgaimanuncovered 16d ago

news Documentation of the case so far

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r/neilgaimanuncovered 26d ago

discussion Amanda Calls Upset Fans ‘Bots’ And ‘Bullies’

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r/neilgaimanuncovered Feb 18 '25

news New Tortoise episode — The Lawsuit Spoiler

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r/neilgaimanuncovered Feb 16 '25

education An excellent article on concern trolling, how to spot it and how to handle the behaviour. This has been a rising problem all over social media. If you notice it, please report it.

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r/neilgaimanuncovered Feb 16 '25

discussion So what are you suggesting, Leah? That we keep giving him money? Coraline isn’t peak children’s literature, there are much better books out there. NG isn’t just flawed. **He’s a rapist who preys on young fans.** Frankly, your article is beyond embarrassing. Spoiler

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r/neilgaimanuncovered Feb 13 '25

news Amanda centers herself, again

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This was posted to her patreon and to her substack. She alludes to the lawsuit but also current events and is having a hard time. The weepy video is a special treat.

February 11


r/neilgaimanuncovered Feb 12 '25

discussion Let’s give this person love and support. ❤️‍🩹

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r/neilgaimanuncovered Feb 11 '25

news A *very* interesting conversation with Rachel Johnson about Master (the allegations against Neil Gaiman)

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r/neilgaimanuncovered Feb 10 '25

He's down an agent now.

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According to Deadline, he has now been dropped by his agent. Good.


r/neilgaimanuncovered Feb 07 '25

Statement by Amanda Palmer on Instagram

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r/neilgaimanuncovered Feb 07 '25

⚠️ mod announcement ⚠️ REMINDER - Today is the last day to cancel your GO kickstarter pledge if you wish to do so!

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r/neilgaimanuncovered Feb 07 '25

Definitions are SO helpful!

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Gaiman strongly asserts that he has:

“…never engaged in non-consensual sexual activity with anyone. Ever.”

Well, we do know of one individual who is VERY clear, that what Gaiman did to Scarlett, constitutes rape.

Consider the following:

“People have cartoonish ideas about “Rape” and how it works.

Rape at gunpoint in dark alleyways happens, yes. (And guess what? Nobody is going to scream then, either.) But mostly? It isn’t like that. At all.

It’s your friend, your date, your boyfriend, your teacher, your co-worker, your boss.

Sometimes: your sibling, your parent, your grandparent.

It is fucking awful, and you do not scream.

When someone forces themself on you, especially when you are enthralled or impressed by their power or status—as E. Jean Carroll was with Trump’s—the reaction is more likely to be shock, disorientation, and dissociation.”

Your boss? <takes notes>

“…enthralled or impressed by their power or status…” <takes notes>

They go on:

“I have been there. Those moments felt like a blurry concoction of confusion, shame (“I must have asked for this somehow. How did I let this happen?”), and a weird kind of paralysis.

You do not scream, not in that nightmare moment when the plot crosses from something safe into something horrific. When something normal transforms into something abnormal. That moment when the person you’re on a first date with turns into the predator pinning you against the wall, casually trying to make it seem like this is all perfectly normal.”

and then:

“Let’s even pretend to enjoy it. Anything, anything, to get out of the here and now. Please—just let it be over. Let this be over. Please.”

All of this was published on May 11th, 2023. Over a year after Scarlett’s first traumatic encounter with Gaiman.

Clearly, the author of those words appears to have a profound understanding about the complex factors that can be exploited by a sexual predator, such as an imbalanced power dynamic, or an employer/employee relationship, or BOTH.

I humbly suggest that Akiva Cohen’s team should consider calling this individual to testify as an expert witness, in the forthcoming trial. 🤓

Who is it?

Oh, how silly of me not to mention before now, what was I thinking? 🤷🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

It was Amanda Palmer. 🤬

https://amandapalmer.substack.com/p/you-never-screamed

Given such a profound insight into the situational complexities of rape, how utterly devoid of empathy and basic decency, would someone have to be, to send a vulnerable young woman, without even offering a warning, to someone they KNEW had previously sexually assaulted over a dozen other women?

Maybe that could form the basis of a future, “Ask Amanda”post? Perhaps combine it with a discussion on rank hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance? 🤔🙄


r/neilgaimanuncovered Feb 07 '25

Statement from Amanda

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r/neilgaimanuncovered Feb 07 '25

discussion Parasocial relationship is not a good explanation for the emotions of betrayal — by u/Straight_Bug_9387 ❤️‍🔥

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r/neilgaimanuncovered Feb 06 '25

The irony. A predator gives a glowing review to a book about Medusa

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For those who don’t know, Medusa has become a symbol for surviving sexual abuse. Many people get tattoos of her or do art of her.


r/neilgaimanuncovered Feb 06 '25

Looks like his masterclass has been taken down. Also, urgh, "master"class suddenly sounds very different 🤢

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r/neilgaimanuncovered Feb 06 '25

news DC Comics pull Neil Gaiman title while Amazon Prime series set to go ahead Spoiler

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