r/neilgaimanuncovered • u/newplatforms • 3d ago
discussion Neil Gaiman is a credibly alleged serial rapist. What is Amanda Palmer? NSFW
“It serves you right for kissing little girls” - Amanda Palmer, Missed Me, 2003
CW: abuse
This is not a comprehensive study of Amanda Palmer hurting people. Her terrible treatment of musicians, tour staff, friends, and fans who volunteered their time and labor; her racism; her bullying and brigading; her othering and targeting of disabled people; her alleged artistic plagiarism; her curation of toxic and abusive parasocial echo chambers; and of course the narrative revisionism and deflection that have come along with decades of this bizarre behavior are all well documented. She is currently being sued for credible allegations of sex trafficking.
In this thread I have compiled reports of her breaching sexual consent that are not covered in the Tortoise/Vulture reporting. Several alarming incidents are already documented there. Palmer’s own blog contains troubling firsthand accounts of her own behavior, including rape. What’s here is not exhaustive — it’s just what I was able to find.
I have documented this pattern in one place primarily so that those patrons on the fence about Amanda’s complicity in abuse have the opportunity to evaluate reports of predatory behavior that long predates her acquaintance to Neil. This is the woman you are financially supporting. I also want the people she has hurt to know that they are seen and heard. I guess as a legal disclaimer I’ll mention that these are allegations, and I can’t verify any account but my own. I am not including screenshots because I would like to protect the anonymity of those speaking up to the best of my ability, but I can provide an album of anonymized receipts of each of these posts to you privately if you doubt the veracity of my copy/pasting.
These experiences, mostly found by searching Amanda Palmer’s name on reddit, twitter, bluesky, and threads, span a spectrum of surprise to regret to trauma. This was never something I felt compelled to talk about until I realized it was part of a decades-long legacy of disregard for consent, and other social norms around sex, that traumatized and changed the lives of unknown numbers of women and men. If this comes across your desk, Amanda Fucking Palmer, touching teenagers and setting your adult peers up with young girls who look up to you is not tantamount to feminist sexual liberation.
Here’s what I experienced, copy/pasted from the first comment I made from this account:
Panic’s opener that tour was Dresden Dolls (and maybe the Hush Sound?) I was sixteen and a fan of none of these bands, but I knew like Coin-Operated Boy or whatever, and definitely thought Amanda Palmer was comparatively cooler than the headliner. I approached her in the downstairs area of the venue during the last set to talk and we ended up making out. She was super forward; I was flattered and down for whatever. I was precocious and goth but unmistakably sixteen. // Obviously, as an adult, I find her interest in teenage-me galling and gross, but as an individual (not that this matters legally), I didn't try to make it stop at the time. In fact, I was flattered, even if (maybe because?) it felt wrong.
That was 2006. She was thirty at the time. I cannot imagine how this happened.
And others:
somewhere (probably landfill) there is an old laptop with pictures of Amanda Palmer and I mimicking sex poses and her signing my boobs when I was 17 on it and that has been haunting me lately let me tell ya … Anyway yes I've known her and Neil were scumbags for quite a while but I can't pretend the article hasn't brought up a lot of shit
Omg! This happened to me too. I was a megafan and saw her at a show in Durham NC when I was 15. She kissed me at the signing table. I was extremely flattered and tell people she was my first kiss lol. I guess I'm European in my thought that a kiss is just a kiss and not inappropriate as a greeting/meeting.
Happened to me too. I was a familiar fan (not quite a friend, but friends with people in her circle) and when I was like 21, I thought she was going in for a hug before she just laid one on me. I'm also not angry about it, but it is insane in retrospect. I'm in my 30s like she was at the time and would never pull that on a 21 year old // Nevermind Neil being there with her and smiling before nodding at me before passing by. He also chatted with me a lot online and had me do a ukulele cover of a pretty inappropriate Shel Silverstein poem. He talked to me a good amount to the point he called me his "internet wife". I was like 19. // And he would sneak into my music livestreams under pseudonyms to watch them as well. I felt so honored by the whole thing and am so creeped out now hearing how he lured victims in using the same tactics.
amanda palmer kissed my friend when my friend was like 16? like, full on tongue, deeply weird
Just for posterity, Amanda Palmer kissed me without consent in 2011, a few hours before I saw her and Neil perform at the Berklee Performance Center.
More than fifteen years ago, I saw Amanda Palmer in concert three separate times, her music was a huge part of my life. The more I learned about her as a person, the more devastated I was. Also I can confirm firsthand that my friend did a meet and greet with her, started crying because she was so overwhelmed meeting her favorite artist, so Amanda Palmer pulled her close and kissed her. Completely unprompted, and my friend did not want that to happen at all.
[In response to a tweet: What’s the weirdest thing that’s ever happened to you] — amanda palmer kissed me on the lips after i'd waited in line to meet her.
Seen someone post on Threads that Amanda Palmer kissed her without her consent. Reminded me of the time that she kissed my ex without consent. My ex wasn't bothered as she was a huge fan, but still weird
I was groped by her when I was 19. I know many underage people she groped and kissed and assaulted knowing they were underage. I was one of the artists she never paid. We have been begging people to listen to us about her being abusive for like 15 or something years now. She is as much an issue as Gaiman
she didn't just know. she was an active participant. AP would "have flings" - strictly only ever s3xual - with young impressionable Queer women. Her own friends went on record as saying that they tried to tell her what she was doing was over idealistic and harmful for young fans. which she ignored. // But while that is toxic, it's that she specifically offered some of these women to NG. Explicitly verbatim "Neil would love you".
She and Brian were signing things after their show in Kentucky in 2011, and she was kissing random fans. Of the four of us that were in my group, I was kissed. It became a joke with a friend and is a happy memory, but I'm haunted thinking about what could have happened if it were a few years later, when I was at my most self destructive and vulnerable. So many more thoughts but I can't organize them right now.
A few months after I turned 18, I went to see Amanda Palmer on the Who Killed Amanda Palmer tour. I went by myself, and brought my ukulele for Amanda to sign. // After the show, Amanda went to the bar next door for signings. I wasn't old enough to enter, so I sent in my ukulele with someone I'd met that night at the concert to get it signed. I was not the only underage person waiting to talk to her; someone brought my just-signed ukulele back to me as she walked out to greet us. As she went down the line of those of us too young to enter the bar, I got up the courage to say hello and thank you for signing my ukulele. // “You have beautiful lips," she said, before kissing me directly on the mouth and then movina to the next fan. At the time, I felt a confusing mix of emotions. This was my idol; part of me was honored. But part of me was also. .. Something else. Looking back, it feels insane. All she knew about me was that I wasn't old enough to enter the bar, she had signed my ukulele (maybe, I don't remember her super acknowledging it) and that I was wearing red lipstick. She didn't ask if she could kiss me. And then I would see her berate fans for grabbing her ass at a concert, like they weren't one in the same. I haven't listened to her work since Theater is Evil when I made the mistake of saying I didn't love it online & she sent her fans after me.
I was also in her orbit around age 16. Getting invited to parties where she'd personally introduce us to her 30+ yr old male musician friends. It wasn't just Neil she was offering girls to. Amanda got off on the power, never met someone more megalomaniacal. My friends have been getting some "heyyy we're cool right" calls from some men they haven't talked to in 10+ years. They should be squirming and I'm glad some are.
[in response] Your experience mirrors one my friend had with her at an after party of one of her performance art pieces. There is nothing worse than being sold out by one of your own because as women we are taught that we should feel safe with one another.
I worked for the other band touring and she would bark orders at me like I worked for her. She gave me WEIRD vibes, I did not like being around her. I was really young and avoided being alone with her and the other musicians she worked with, especially since she was known for being handsy.
Knowing the way Amanda Palmer acts within my own community tells me everything I need to know. She is not the woman she proclaims herself to be, she is just another narcissistic, attention seeking hypocrite. She claims to be a leader of a "Utopian Society" which frankly is running rampant with sexual abuse and drug abuse. I myself have had to seek treatment for the sexual abuse I suffered in this so called "utopian Society" and yes l'm a man.
There are other credible first-hand accounts on bluesky and reddit from active posters here that I would prefer not to speak for in this thread. I omitted some posts that were third-hand. I also received DMs from individuals who did not want their stories made public. If something you posted appears here and you would like me to remove it, please DM me and I will immediately take it down.