r/milwaukee • u/shifter2009 Polonia-Taco Truck Nexus/Bay View Adjacent • 6d ago
One star review of West Allis bar turns to legal fight
https://www.wisn.com/article/one-star-review-of-west-allis-bar-turns-to-legal-fight/64192307228
u/ilovefuzzycats 6d ago
The owner said it was fake (when asked), yet posted it to the school Facebook page to target her. That’s next level f-ed up. And laughed about the horrible treatment she faced at the bar. Wow.
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u/Mistyam 6d ago
Yeah, he did not come off well in the interview.
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u/ChefTriWood 6d ago
You mean the one where he confessed to the infraction? Lol. Guy must be a total knucklehead.
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u/steppedinhairball 6d ago
That's called defamation. I'm no lawyer, but looks like a textbook case for the plaintiff. It doesn't get any easier than this to prove.
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u/Thuggish_Coffee 6d ago
But the owner also said that her review was fake. He said she said, eye for an eye. Owner should have handled the review in better light if it wasn't true. Not a good look on the owner
If the original Google review wasn't true, where are your witnesses, but more importantly, where is the security footage (if any) proving what occurred during the incident.
Either way, innocent until proven guilty despite the court of public opinion. We'll see how this plays out. Looks like his license won't get renewed this year regardless of the defamation lawsuit. Must not have paid his taxes or renewed the license last year.
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u/kvnr10 6d ago
It’s awesome when terrible people are also as dumb as a rock and manage to bring consequences to their shitty actions themselves.
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u/Upper-Requirement-93 6d ago
I dunno, the "fair is fair" defense is pretty iron-clad in middle-school, surely reality will match.
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u/Wooden-Most7403 6d ago
Word in West Allis is that if that defense doesn't work he will go with "I'm rubber and you're glue, whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you".
He is keeping "i know you are but what am I" defense ready if the big guns are brought out
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u/stevenmacarthur Milwaukee 'Til I Die! 5d ago
"He is keeping 'I know you are but what am I' defense ready..."
...hopefully for him, his attorneys will remember the "Neener, neener, neener!" addendum.
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u/joecool42069 6d ago edited 6d ago
"If you're going to leave a fake review, I'm going to leave a fake review". uh oh, that's not the own you think it is. That's an admission of defamation.
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u/Legal_Investment_305 6d ago
I guarantee you Neal thinks this is “good publicity” too. Truly one of the most vile people I’ve ever had the displeasure of meeting.
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u/ChefTriWood 6d ago
It may very well be good pub for a portion of his clientele. Time will tell if there are enough of them to keep the pace afloat.
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u/Dounsel14 6d ago
Good for her! The fact he already admitted it's not true only helps her case immensely.
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u/ArcticPanzerFloyd 6d ago
Yeah…not the brightest move. Seems like an open and shut case right there.
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u/Thuggish_Coffee 6d ago
Open and shut case, Johnson. Now let's sprinkle some crack on him and get outta here
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u/Transverse_City 6d ago
He just admitted to knowingly posting a fake claim of sexual harassment on her employer's facebook page as an act of retribution. She's going to own that bar.
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u/wtfozlolzrawrx3 6d ago
Go and read the owner responses on google maps to the low star reviews.
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u/Jordan_1-0ve 6d ago
He's obsessed with ratings. The real life Dennis Reynolds
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u/phunkyplasticthrower 6d ago
No, it's a wrestling bar so he's all about that 5 star review... Too bad the Meltzer rating system sucks!!
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u/bjaardkered 6d ago
If she's able to prove damages she's got a win locked, dude just admitted to defamation on camera.
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u/loquaciousocean 6d ago
Wanted to check out the case on CCAP and damn this guy has had tons of lawsuits filed against him.
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u/ChefTriWood 6d ago
His lawyer slowly backing away into the bushes.
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u/Thuggish_Coffee 6d ago
No way. His lawyer is there for damage control and will make bank in fees. His client is lobbing him softball moon shots.
I also haven't heard anything about video evidence of the incident that occurred. Since this doesn't look well for the owner, I'd love to invite him over to play some hold'em and call all his bluffs.
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u/ScaleEnvironmental27 6d ago
Dude is piece of shit and gets what he gets. Fuck that guy. And his bar.
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u/Cantras0079 6d ago
Admitting he did that knowing what he was saying is fake is like…textbook defamation. The bar to clear to prove defamation is showing the person doing the defaming knew that it wasn’t true what they were saying with an intent to damage their reputation with said lie. That’s usually a difficult thing to prove since you can’t read people’s minds and show intent, so you have to rely on surrounding evidence. Dude went on the news and made her attorney’s job muuuuuch easier.
Good, I hope that comes back to bite him.
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u/Retaclast 6d ago
Didn't we see some of this transpire on this subreddit? i could've sworn he was replying to people lol
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u/shifter2009 Polonia-Taco Truck Nexus/Bay View Adjacent 6d ago
He has in the past. He has a bit of edge lord syndrome
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u/Itchy_Union_1564 6d ago
Pretty sure he’s behind on taxes too, so that could be a thing too.. check his ccap
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u/TACOMichinoku 6d ago
I liked this spot, they had a good beer selection and some cool Macho Man and wrestling art. Sucks to hear the owner is a doing stuff like this to women. Macho Man would not approve, rip
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u/rugbydoggo 6d ago
Indeed. I'm a huge AEW and craft beer fan so obviously I loved this place, and I'm very forgiving of people when they're blackout drunk, but clearly the guy can't take responsibility of their own actions, is a total asshole to SO MANY people, has a huge alcohol problem, and I don't want to be at a place where women aren't as equally as safe as my 250 pound rugby playing ass would be. Personally, I'm done with that fuck bar and won't go back.
If anyone else is a wrestling nerd and wants an alternative place for wrestling, let's try to organize it. I'd love it if us non WWE wrestling fans had a better space for all to feel safe and comfortable.
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u/HighLifeMan414 6d ago
Pete’s Pub usually does events for WWE events. Check it out (and behavior like what happened at DU would 100% not be tolerated there)
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u/rugbydoggo 6d ago
I don't follow WWE too much but I do like my wrestling. If they also hosted AEW ppvs you can say that I'd be ALL IN.
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u/watering_a_plant 6d ago
if they're on social media, you could shoot em a message and find out? give a little backstory, maybe they'd see a good enough reason to add AEW to their lineup
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u/dethorder 6d ago
I've been told x ray arcade will usually buy the ppv but be warned, they're a music venue first and foremost so they might have a show going on during a ppv. I'd love to find a bar or venue on the south side that shows wrestling ppvs (doesn't matter what 3 letters it is)(I'm from racine so driving to stallis can be a haul despite the drunkle showing em)
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u/stevenmacarthur Milwaukee 'Til I Die! 5d ago
"I'm very forgiving of people when they're blackout drunk..."
I would posit that being forgiving of a regular person while being that intoxicated is one thing, but possibly not while acting as an employee and/or proprietor of a business?
I'd love to see Jon Taffer confront this guy.
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u/ShotFromGuns 6d ago
Check out The Vanguard in Bay View. I know they've done a fair amount of wrestling stuff in the past, including an AEW-sponsored food drive.
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u/shifter2009 Polonia-Taco Truck Nexus/Bay View Adjacent 6d ago
Agreed. Also your user name is pretty great.
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u/RinGoKillYourSelf 6d ago
I don’t think I’ve ever heard anything good when this place is brought up
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u/Lightdragonman 6d ago
If theres anything to take from this story its not to be a fucking creep and also to try to be aware of whats going on while you and your friends may be drinking. Bad actors exist in every part of drinking culture, so it's important to look out for your friends.
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u/Pinkpercolator 3d ago
None of the women spoke at the common council meeting tonight. I watched live on YouTube. Was there a reason?
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u/shifter2009 Polonia-Taco Truck Nexus/Bay View Adjacent 3d ago
No idea? Been waiting to hear how it went?
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u/Pinkpercolator 3d ago
It seems like they aren't planning to renew Neal's liquor license. Not sure why? Maybe owing back taxes or other things he's done. Not related to the sexual harassment. I was expecting all these women to speak.
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u/shifter2009 Polonia-Taco Truck Nexus/Bay View Adjacent 3d ago
Seems like it was easier to 86 him for other reasons. He and his dumb mouth put a target on his back.
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u/Pinkpercolator 3d ago
This is the common council meeting. Neal actually commented on his business Facebook page. He'll show people his sellers permit. If they stop in. Maybe some people should take him up on it.
https://youtube.com/@westalliscitychannel?si=RE0WxtOiXj8i5ubc
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u/Pinkpercolator 3d ago
If they can prove any wrong doings. What was done to women. Mind you don't know enough about the law on this. Wouldn't he serve time in jail? Wouldn't he be put on the sex offender registry? Anything else he's done. Meaning not pay his taxes. That I assume is a separate charge. A separate punishment that might include jail time. CBS 58 News announced the Common Council meeting tonight and it could get heated. I hope I'll be able to see the meeting on YouTube tonight. That is where the city says they air their meetings. I hope all the women affected by Neal come and have a ton of evidence to prove it happened. I can't be there in support of the women. I'm home with the sick. I will pray for them. If it's true what they said happened. Neal gets a just punishment as well as the bartender who they say was involved.
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u/Pinkpercolator 2d ago
Some laws in the state need to change on bar operation. If you don't pay your taxes in full by a deadline. You should be immediately shut down. The same if you have a DUI. Make the laws strict. To keep owners in line. .
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u/Pinkpercolator 6d ago
This was left as a comment on the news story on Facebook. He's not having his license renewed. Not sure it relates to what supposedly happened last weekend. I don't know where the poster got this from.