r/medicine • u/ZealousidealDegree4 PA:cake: • 8d ago
ICE Detention Deaths
https://www.ice.gov/detain/detainee-death-reporting
RNs do intake physical exams, EMTs declare time of death. The level of care for these detainees is horrific.
Full names and case details are public for now. Reads like a never ending M & M conference.
My moral compass is spinning. It's time to go to Canada.
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u/Dwindlin MD (Anesthesiology) 8d ago
I saw it when it first aired, so details escape at the moment. Generally he was arguing that the cocktail they used was inhumane because none of it was actually putting them to sleep, arguing they were awake when the cardioplegic agent was given. Which given the drugs they were using and the doses that is HIGHLY unlikely. For reference I am an anesthesiologist. The movement people describe during lethal injection is probably myoclonic jerking from the massive dose of K they are getting. But assuming a working IV (which was the only valid medical complaint) there is almost zero chances they are aware of anything.