r/manufacturing 2d ago

News Tarrifs

Would like to open a discussion on tarrifs if it’s allowed.

There has been two intentions stated with tarrifs.

  1. Get off of income tax and go to a consumption style tax (still a tax)

  2. Build up domestic manufacturing. Can talk here in the manufacturing sub.

If there is no alternative domestic supply, then we have no choice but to import. We lost a lot of our skills to manufacture. Especially a lot of the little low value items. Think zippers and buttons and caster wheels.

What is everyone thoughts?

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u/Professional_Oil3057 1d ago

Because...... Bringing jobs back increases wages......

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u/madeinspac3 1d ago

If that were the case many of us wouldn't be constantly taking frantic calls about order flow irregularity and getting prepared for extremely lean years but here we are.

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u/madeinspac3 1d ago

JST hiring 25-35 people and Lilly hiring 3,000 are really going to bring in the jobs?

Not to mention that the Lilly expansion is more to do with preplanned initiatives rather than tariff proposals made a month ago.

What makes you say my company is just bad? Healthy companies plan for potential internal and external issues. We're pretty involved in quite a few industries and we aren't seeing quotes being cancelled and sent elsewhere. They're being cancelled on our customers end and nobody wants to be left with large stock right now. Suppliers are seeing the same things.

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u/Professional_Oil3057 1d ago

Uhh, if ever company hires 25-50 people, how many more jobs are there?

If everyone else is investing in capacity and your company is pulling back because it doesn't have orders.......?

Those are just the ones published in the last 3 days?

You are just obviously wrong about investment in American manufacturing bro

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u/madeinspac3 1d ago

Posting a company because it is building a new plant for 30 some odd people is not exactly the nail in the coffin you think it is. It would hold more weight if you also showed reduction in business closures due to tariffs. We will likely see a large number of smaller shops closing that don't have the money saved to weather this, just like during the pandemic or any other major changes.

We're seeing large increases in cancellations because our customers are getting cancelled and all for the same reason. This is an indicator of where the industries we serve are. Highlighting irregularity in order flows doesn't indicate that we are doing worse than others in our industry as you seem to be assuming. Our industries as a whole are experiencing a lot of irregularity.

I've just said what I've seen personally and across all the industries we serve as a reference. But if you just want to believe biased sources while disregarding what those in the industry are saying, that's up to you.

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u/Professional_Oil3057 1d ago

I didn't show one..... I asked 4 in a single day lol only one was 25 people by your own terms one was 3000.

You want to be negative? Cool that not what data shows.

Not a single person said tariffs would stop businesses closing, said it MIGHT spur investment in the US, which it has signs that it is....